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bigfish69
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19. January 2005 @ 23:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is this temp ok or even normal, I think its a bit on the high side compared to a temp of 53*C when copying. Idle temps at 52*C.

Ripping with shrink

The exhaust fan on the case feels quite cool.

Pentium 4 prescott with Coolermaster CPU cooler.
Artic Silver compound.
Abit IC7 canterwood mobo
1 80mm intake fan 1 80mm exhaust fan.
MSI D16 DVD-ROM
Plextor 708A DVD-W

Abit software for temp readings.

This seamed the correct forum, any views appreciated.
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colw
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20. January 2005 @ 01:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sounds somewhat high - using Sisoft Sandra my temps are:

Mainboard 36 C
CPU 20 C
bigfish69
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20. January 2005 @ 02:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
colw,

That seems remarkably low, I presume its not a P4 Prescott 3.0GHz processor that you have.

P4 prescotts are renowned for running HOT and I thought that 68 C was a bit much for DVD ripping

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colw
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20. January 2005 @ 02:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No its not a P4 Prescott 3.0GHz processor.

I'm running a P3 800Hz with 256 RAM - not flash but very stable and reliable.
wild77
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20. January 2005 @ 02:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My Prescott 2.8 runs about 50*-52*c when ripping with DVD Decrypter.When encoding with Shrink or Nero Recode it reaches 60*-62*using a stock Intel, fan soon to be changed.These processors do run hot.


climbhigh
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20. January 2005 @ 07:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That is WAY too high.

Are you overclocking?

Do you have adequate case ventilation?

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20. January 2005 @ 17:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
68ºC is damn hot. Have you experienced any reboots when the temps get that high? I'd definitely upgrade your cooling components because letting your processor hit those temps on a regular basis will shorten it's lifespan. I'd recommend adding extra, more powerful fans (put them on a funbus controller if the noise bothers you) and possibly a different HSF. What model CoolerMaster HSF do you have?

I've a P4 3.06GHz with a Thermaltake POLO 735 HSF which I crank up to full speed when encoding and my proc never breaks 42ºC during the encoding. Hell, I have my BIOS set to beep if the proc hits 60ºC.



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20. January 2005 @ 18:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, Nephilim is right, you're CPU temp is extremely hot! It's best to keep it below 50' although from what I read those Pentiums run pretty hot but anything above 60' is definately going to lower the life of your CPU. Its hard for me to believe that your system even works at that temp. I have my system set to shutdown if my CPU reaches 60' or above. Have you updated your BIOS? Some mobos often have issues with displaying the wrong temps. I highly recommend not even booting that system up until you find out what is going wrong. I have stock cooling on my overclocked A64 and my temp never even gets into the forties. Did you apply enough thermal compound on your heatsink? Have you double checked that the cpu fan is even coming on? From my experience with CPU's and heatsinks there is always a logical explanation to why a system is overheating so dont panic. Relax and double check everything relating to the heatsink installation. If it still reaches high temperatures with that heatsink installed I would scrap it and put the stock or a better aftermarket one on.

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20. January 2005 @ 19:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Running Motherboard Monitor would be a good "second opinion" on your temps.

http://mbm.livewiredev.com/



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20. January 2005 @ 22:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I run a P4 2.8 GHz and my temp has never gone above 35 degrees C, but I do have 4 intake and 4 outlet fans.



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int3gr4
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21. January 2005 @ 12:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Normally, as long as your have at least one intake and exhaust fan adding more isn't going to change the heat of the cpu much. Case fans are good for evenly spreading the heat whereas some components would really heat up if the air was stagnant. I wonder if this guy's cpu is fried now and thats why he hasnt responded...

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bardie
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21. January 2005 @ 13:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just for interest sake....before I added extra intake fans and exhaust fans my cpu ran around 45 degrees.
That was with one intake and one exhaust fan.
I use the 'SilenX' brand fans which have a low dB rating and they are very quiet, so I will stick with the 4 intake and 4 exhaust fans.



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wild77
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21. January 2005 @ 16:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here is what I just ordered for my P4 2.8 Prescott if this don't bring the temps down nothing will!!!I will let you know how it works out.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-106-044&depa=0
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-999-613&depa=0



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21. January 2005 @ 17:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You know they ship earplugs with those Tornados ;)



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int3gr4
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21. January 2005 @ 19:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sweet sink. I need to get one of those...

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bigfish69
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23. January 2005 @ 23:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry folks for not replying, and thanks for the advise.

I havn't been on my home PC over the weekend but I will be on tonight and I will try a different temp monitor to doublecheck the cpu temp.
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What model CoolerMaster HSF do you have?
I think its a Coolermaster Aero 4.
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68ºC is damn hot. Have you experienced any reboots when the temps get that high?
Only ever had problems when playing Doom 3 as the temp was reaching over 75ºC, thats when I realised there was something wrong and checked the cpu cooler and used arctic silver compound to see if it made a difference (and it has).

I havn't overclocked anything and the cpu fan (to the best of my knowledge) is working fine. I will check the temp tonight and reply back.
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24. January 2005 @ 07:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Moved to Other PC Hardware.



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24. January 2005 @ 08:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nephilim is right... if you hate loud noises and are easily annoyed by then, that tornado is going to set you off.

I have the 80mm version but this damn thing sounds like a small vacuum cleaner.

I do agree with everyone else about the temps being high. I have heard that prescotts run very hot, but not near 70°C hot.

My little A XP has never seen over 50 in it's lifetime.

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bigfish69
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25. January 2005 @ 00:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Installed the Motherboard Monitor software and the temps where the same as the supplied Abit software temps peaked at 70C when burning a dvd.

I am going to update my BIOS tonight if I get a chance and then I will try burning another dvd.
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25. January 2005 @ 01:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The IC7 from Abit does read temps higher than other boards due to their implementation of the intel onboard sensor. That being said 68c is hot for an aftermarket cooler. What type of thermal goop did you use? Have you tried removing the heatsink+fan and cleaning with alcohol then applying Artic Silver and reseat it? That pressy can stand 70c but after that you start entering the danger zone and could get into thermal throttling protection. I use a zalman 7000 and it lowered my full load temps from 64c to about 55c on my northwood.

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bigfish69
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25. January 2005 @ 02:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
askyew,

I just removed the cpu cooler and used artic silver 2 weeks ago because DOOM3 had started to crash my PC with temps over 70C. I have never updated the BIOS on the mobo and am wondering if that would contribute to the high cpu temps. I also added an arctic cooler for the 9800pro gfx card.

If the BIOS update dosn't improve the temp reading I will redo the artic silver on the cpu/heatsink. Failing that I will purchase another (better) aftermarket cooler.

Anyother ideas would be appreciated.

I will report back as usual after changes.
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25. January 2005 @ 02:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Found something better than the Thermaltake&Tornado combination posted earlier,Luckily I was able to cancel my order.Check this Monster out
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/thxpforinp4.html
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/pa12mesp.html

This will not work with all motherboards but they make a slightly smaller version with a 92mm fan,that will work with most boards

Here is a chart showing compatable boards
http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/main_support_faq_motherboard_xp120_p4.htm



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25. January 2005 @ 03:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My P4 Prescott runs at 19'C/66'F now. When i 1st got it, it was running at 34'c and when ripping/encodeing it would go up to 57'c, i got a new fan i it ALLWAYS runs btween 18'c & 32'c when working.

I use the Vantec Aeroflow Heatsink


aye aye man

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wingnuts
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25. January 2005 @ 20:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have a P4 Prescott 2.4 @ 3.02 Ghz. Stock it ran very hot about 55C idle. After adding 4 more fans, an intake on the side panel and OCing to 3.02 it now runs idle at about 46C and after a few hours of H/L 2 or Doom 3 it doesn't reach hotter than 55C.
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26. January 2005 @ 01:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Case fans are the way to go for sure, i have two 120mm fans and two 80mm fans in my case and sitting next to the thing, it's cold as hell ;-)

aye aye man
 
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