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Protected Music Burning
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Ryawhtny4
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11. February 2005 @ 15:03 |
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Does anyone know how I can burn protected music?
when I go to burn it, Roxio easy cd creator 5, it says i do not have burning rights to the music. Does anyone know how I could take the protection off or get around it to burn?
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aabbccdd
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13. February 2005 @ 23:03 |
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How to rip copy protected audio CDs ...
As this is a frequently asked question, I make this thread sticky and sum up information from other threads here. If you have to add something, feel free to do so.
Basically there are 2 copy protection mechanisms for audio CDs:
1. Manipulated table of content (TOC)
Result: Software that uses the TOC to find content on a CD instead of scanning the CD (like native Windows, most software players), can't find the audio tracks or confuses them with data tracks.
2. Manipulated error detection/recovery information
Audio CDs contain 2 layers of error detection/recovery data (C1 + C2, comparable to redundant CRC checksums). If a CD is slightly damaged (-> light scratches), the audio data returned by the drive is still perfect as C1+C2 information is used to correct errors. On worse damages the original audio data can't be restored anymore, the drive still 'knows' which samples are wrong and tries to interpolate them to make the errors less audible. Generally standalone CD players are designed to do a better job on this than PC drives. Copy protections that introduce C1/C2 errors resulting in interpolation, intentionally try to do this in a way that standalone players' interpolation makes the errors inaudible, while PC drives fail, resulting in audible clicks/pops.
How to extract audio from protected CDs:
There are 2 ways:
1. Using standalone equipment
There are several ways depending on the available equimpent:
- standalone CD player -> standalone recorder
- standalone CD player -> digital connection -> soundcard -> PC recording/editing software
- standalone CD player -> analog connection -> souncard -> PC recording/editing software
2. Using PC equipment
These are the steps that are important:
2.0. Shift button
When inserting a copy protected CD press the shift button to disable autostart. Otherwise you might get software you don't want.
2.1. The Drive
There are some combinations of drive and copy protection that will never work, no matter what software you use. Before getting desperate, try different drives and/or ask in formus like this about your drives. Trying different firmware versions *might* help in some cases.
2.2. How to recognise the audio content on the CD
To be able to extract audio data, you must use software that works arround the manipulated TOC. There are several possibilities. Remember: With some drives you will just have no luck, so you don't have to try every possibility with each drive. The following software has been reported to help against TOC manipulation:
- A replacement for Win's native CD file system driver CDFS.VXD
- AnyDVD
- CloneCD (next step (ripping) integrated), probably other similar programs
- Exact Audio Copy (EAC) (ripping integrated), Version 0.95 pre-beta3 and earlier
- Audiograbber (ripping integrated)
- Plextools (only with Plextor drives - ripping integrated)
- Easy CD-DA (ripping integrated) - in some cases this software makes clicks caused by CDS disappear that are there with other software.
- Nero Burning Rom (Direct copy to CD-R; details here: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/83180 )
- There's a CD manipulation trick reffered to as post-it or marker trick to cover a 2nd session data track on the CD and make it unreadable (see links).
2.3. The software used to read the audio data (and save them to HDD)
- If one of the 1st two possibilities works, and the copy protection consists of TOC manipulation only, any audio extraction software can be used.
- If creating an image with CloneCD (or similar software) worked, an image manipulation software like CDMage can be used to extract the audio from the image.
- The 3 audio extraction programs mentioned at 2.2. have special options to handle manipulated TOC. With EAC it works like this:
--- Get Exact audio copy 0.95 prebeta 3 from here: http://www.afterdawn.com/software/audio_software/cd-da_extractors/index2.cfm - in newer versions some TOC manipulation options have been removed.
--- Install EAC using e.g. this guide: http://users.pandora.be/satcp/cd2mp3-en.htm
--- EAC -> EAC options -> Tools -> 'Activate beginner mode...' disabled
--- Action -> TOC alterations -> try different commands, e.g. 'Detect TOC manually', 'Retrieve native TOC'
--- Trying both - Inserting the CD after EAC is started and vice versa - can help.
2.4. What to do with CDs with altered error recovery data
The signs for such a CD are these:
- Even if following 2.0-2.3 resulted in successfully extracted audio files, these files contain audible errors like clicks, pops or gaps of silence.
- Extraction is noticably slower than of ordinary CDs, especially in EAC secure mode, C2 activated (if drive supports it)
To get better results this might help:
- Lower extraction speed, if not accessible with the extraction software you use, with CDBremse or Nero Drivespeed
- Try burst mode (EAC)
- Try different drives
- Extract with different drives, do a WAV comparison (EAC -> Tools) or a wave substraction using a wave editor. Due to different interpolation algorithms, you'll find positions with interpolated samples by this. Listen closely to these positions, if necessary use a wave editor's click/glitch removal (time consuming).
- One of the methods using a standalone CD player might give better results.
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Related links:
http://cd-rw.org/articles/archive/cactusdatashield.cfm (article by cd-rw.org about CDS)
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/47122
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/47666
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/51009
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/27915 (threads about copy protected CDs)
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/34124 (Post-It/Marker trick)
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/60316 (about EAC 0.95pb4 missing TOC features)
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Ryawhtny4
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14. February 2005 @ 11:30 |
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The music is downloaded, napster, not from protected cds
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aabbccdd
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14. February 2005 @ 22:42 |
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musicmatch or windows media player both should work then
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Sir-Age
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15. February 2005 @ 03:43 |
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Nero wouldn't burn it for me so i used
dBpowerAMP CD Writer
and it worked great!
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Ryawhtny4
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15. February 2005 @ 06:44 |
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With dBpowerAMP I get thi error
The file 'D:\My Documents\My Music\(MY AUDIO FILE).wma' is encrypted which dMC is not able to decode.
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Ryawhtny4
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15. February 2005 @ 10:43 |
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I spent 6+ hours trying to do this
I've gone through 8 different cd burners and 5 different conversion tools...
NOTHING...Screewwwww Microsoft's DRM!!!
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15. February 2005 @ 19:03 |
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This was on Gizmodo yesterday, works great I have tried it.
Practical how to:
(credit goes to warlock1711 of club.cdfreaks.com for discovering this loophole)
0. Download and install Napster, sign up for 14 day free trial.
1. Download and install Winamp
2. Download and install the Winamp Plug-in Output Stacker
3. Open Winamp Options->Plug-ins->Output->Dietmar's Output Stacker->Configure
a. Add out_ds.dll from Winamp/Plug-ins folder
b. Add out_disk.dll from Winamp/Plug-ins folder
c. Select out_disk.dll in the Output Stacker->Configure
d. Set the output directory and output file mode to Force WAV file
e. Exit preferences
4. Load downloaded Napster protected WMAs into your Winamp playlist
5. Press play and each file will be converted to WAV as it plays
6. Burn WAVs to CD with your favorite burning program
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15. February 2005 @ 19:19 |
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or use tunebite if you really need to convert to MP3 or OGG files
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Ryawhtny4
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15. February 2005 @ 19:19 |
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this is pretty sad...i cant even find the plugin
can anyone send me a link to it, i looked over the winamp plugin page and couldnt find anything with that name
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15. February 2005 @ 22:46 |
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It looks like they removed it. I'm betting at the request of Napster. Might not be too long before they alter the DRM on the downloadable songs. You might try searching the net for output_stacker.exe it should be about 41k in size.
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Ryawhtny4
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16. February 2005 @ 04:30 |
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Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!
Tunebite works very good...
The only problem is that it takes longer, and with 44+ hours of music it's going to take almost 2 days to record
Thats ok though...ill just leave my laptop on
THANK YOU!
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Eugenides
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16. February 2005 @ 06:57 |
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Sir-Age
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16. February 2005 @ 07:00 |
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@ Eugenides
Isn't this sort of message what gets people banned?
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Sir-Age
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16. February 2005 @ 07:00 |
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@Eugenides
Isn't this sort of message what gets people banned?
(sry double post, please delete)
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Sir-Age
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16. February 2005 @ 07:14 |
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Is it only WMA that has protection from WMA -> wav/mp3 and burning or does mp3 have this sort of protection as well?
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Ryawhtny4
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16. February 2005 @ 10:37 |
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I'm not sure, I think it's possible though
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stumbo
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17. February 2005 @ 08:27 |
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I used Virtuosa 5 to convert WMA --> mp3, worked great for me. I loaded the mp3's on my ipod so I'm sure you could burn a disk without much trouble.
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Ryawhtny4
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18. February 2005 @ 19:38 |
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After 44 hours of using Tunebite I'm FINALLY done
Thanks again, worked great
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diabolos
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19. February 2005 @ 13:17 |
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A free app that does what Tunebite does and allot more, for free, is called Jet Audio Basic.
Link to my guide:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/125931
Also, Mp3s have no type of DRM protection. Thats why noone in the legal music download buz. uses it!
Ced
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smrtazz
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3. March 2005 @ 18:37 |
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I used Virtuosa 5 and it let me burn an audio cd. I tried Jet Audio, and I couldnt get it to do anything.
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diabolos
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3. March 2005 @ 19:56 |
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Im sorry Jet Audio didn't work for you since its wroked for eveyone else I've told about it. Maybe you should scan through my guide (previous post) for some assistance.
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12. March 2005 @ 20:53 |
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My Virtuosa has been telling me as of late that the files I'm trying to convert can't be converted cause they are protected.. Has anyone else ran into a problem with Virtuosa Recently?
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14. March 2005 @ 02:24 |
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smrtazz
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25. March 2005 @ 08:02 |
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I just tried to burn an audio cd with Virtuosa, and it tells me that the files are invalid. I wasn't getting this the last time I used it. Does anyone know what the problem might be?
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