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koco12
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8. March 2005 @ 09:19 |
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Hi,
I add a new video card on my computer. Everything was ok before, now my system keep shutting off after 5 second, or 20 seconds or 1 minutes but not more than 5 minutes. I put back the old video card...same thing happenning. I unplugged everything, left with only the video card (new or old), one memory stick.....still the same problem. Any suggestions?
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ddp
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8. March 2005 @ 10:09 |
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check cpu heatsink & fan as possible now not seated properly
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9. March 2005 @ 09:15 |
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Removing all hardware including the processor has fixed similar problems for me in the past. Take it all out and put it all back in.This of course is not always the solution. Could even be the power suply. Strange things just happen sometimes.
-Del
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koco12
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10. March 2005 @ 03:42 |
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I took everything out..even the cpu...work for arround 10 minutes....and same thing. Shut off by itself...the power light stay on...i have to unplugged the computer to get the light to go off and to get it work again....and still shut off by itself. Any other suggestion?
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madgreek
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10. March 2005 @ 03:53 |
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ITS THE POWERSUPPLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I am about 99% certain! This happens all the time. Please buy a new powersupply and see what happens. A new video card, something that is used for video games can use a lot more juice then your old one. Please replace the power supply.
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koco12
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10. March 2005 @ 05:42 |
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Ok...but the new video card that i installin the computer...is a old 16meg....i gave my 64meg to my son...so i'm not sure if its the power supply. Any other suggestion....
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Starbuck1
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10. March 2005 @ 05:50 |
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I'm heavily leanging toward power supply too. Check all connections to and from PSU to mobo and devices. Go to Event Viewer and look for errors in the application/system log files for clues on the shutdown.
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10. March 2005 @ 07:49 |
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You left out that tid bit of info earlier. About haveing to unplug to get the light off. Here is a list of MB makers I have had similar problems with.
SOYO ECS BIOSTAR PC CHIPS AMPTRON(realy bad one)
I would scratch my head for hours trying to figure it out. Eventualy I replaced the mother board With a better one. MY top three.
1)ASUS 2)MSI 3)DFI
They cost a bit more but are well worth it. It has also been my experince that mother boards with everything intergrated tend to run into this problem. This may not be the case in your problem but based on what has been tried we are now down to two items. The power suply and the MB.
I do not think it is likely to be the power suply but worth a try if you have another laying around. It is able to keep the computer on longer than 10 seconds. Unless you have power hungry hardware I just dont think it wins the bet. If the hardware fully powers up and the wattage from the power supply is not enough then you crash. Usually the system will reboot on its own.
MB can lock up just like Windows. Your computer does not always turn off when Windows Crashes so the system can remain on even if the board crashed. One important note. It can be tricky to move a hard drive with Windows 2000/XP from one system to another. It has been sugested that you boot into safe mode and remove all hardware in device manager before moving the hard drive over. Sometimes doing a repair install before allowing the HD to boot the new MB will work. Just don't let that HD boot the new MB until you did one or the other. What happens if you dont do this? Chances are you will be re-installing windows and lose everything on C or in rare cases it will boot fine. IF it gets to that point you can still hook the HD to another system to get your data before you format.
Good luck
-Del
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mallaug
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10. March 2005 @ 09:08 |
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Could try runing a scandisk might help.
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koco12
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10. March 2005 @ 09:54 |
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Ok...i have a Asus P4B266C motherboard. I don't thing either is the power supply, just with a video card and a stick of ram...it does the samething...i guess i have to change my motherboard.....Another thing...could it be my memory?
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koco12
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10. March 2005 @ 09:55 |
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Can't run a scandisk....the system stay on for not more than 2 minutes if i'm lucky.
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ddp
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10. March 2005 @ 10:15 |
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do you have another stick of ram to try
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koco12
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10. March 2005 @ 10:53 |
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No i don't...thats why i'm asking...otherwise, i will of try another memory stick.
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ddp
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10. March 2005 @ 11:27 |
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does it happen in both the bios or safemode??
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ScubaBud
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10. March 2005 @ 11:34 |
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koco12
Lets see... Everything was fine just before you installed a new graphics card right? Loaded some new driver?s maybe and then all of a sudden it starts to shut down on you. You remove the new card, but still have the old drivers installed, and put back your old card and still the same problem. So the only thing different with your old card back in your PC is what? The Drivers that you loaded for the new card! Remove them, go back in time with a system restore and see what happens then.
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10. March 2005 @ 11:42 |
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I was thinking you tried a new piece of RAM. Yes bad memory can cause problems like that. Sometimes you will get a message at windows boot that says "windows recovered from a fatal error" or something like that. An entry may also apear in the system log. Other times there are no clues left behind.
Right click my computer and select manage. Go to event viewer. Now go into System. Look for a RED circle with an X in it. Also Yellow Triangles with a ! in it. Look at the times to see if they relate to the shut down time. Again there may not be anything logged at all. Worth looking at. As ddp mentioned try in safe mode when looking at the log. That way the computer may not cut out on you while your looking.
-Del
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koco12
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11. March 2005 @ 03:52 |
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It's not my memory, i just installed the stick in my system at work...work fine. Can't tried the one at work in my system....they are not the same...and doesn't work with my motherboard. My MB can handled the one from my pc at home.
For the other comment....would like to try, but my system want let me go in....even in the bios...shut off in less than 30 seconds.
So the only thing left to do before changing the MB...is to try another Power Supply....can't thing of anything else.....any other suggestion? remeber...can't go in the windows registry...or other....shut off before. Can't go in safe mode either...30 seconds...and i'm out....with the power light on....have to unplugged the system to get back working for 30 seconds or less.
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koco12
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11. March 2005 @ 03:56 |
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And for your question ScubaBud...everything was fine before installing that video card. I unpugged everything...left with only the video card, one memory stick....and no luck...just shut off...my HD is not plug in....
Now that i know that my memory is good...it could be the MB or the power supply......I'll start with changing the power supply....less expensive than buying a MB....keep you post....
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11. March 2005 @ 04:24 |
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Have you tried Scuba Bud's suggestion of uninstalling the new drivers that were loaded with the new video card. Even if you have removed the new card and put the old one back in, the drivers for the new card will still be there and getting rid of them may help.
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koco12
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11. March 2005 @ 04:39 |
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I can't...won't let me go in.....even with the HD unplugged...the system shut off. So it's not a drivers issue. The only thing that i have plugged in....it's a power supply, a motherboard, one memory stick and a video card.....nothing else....shut off after less than 30 seconds...
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11. March 2005 @ 05:05 |
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Sounds to me like you are a bit screwed. Sorry i can't help.
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koco12
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11. March 2005 @ 06:09 |
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Yeah i know...thank any way.
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ScubaBud
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11. March 2005 @ 06:29 |
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koco12
As we grasp for straws now... Try taking out the battery on the MB and then put back in to reset the cmos. Have your original Graphics card on the MB then try it one more time, and when you get a screen, try hitting the pause button, just to see if it stays on or can hold without shutting off. If it does, then you at least know that it?s not the PSU.
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11. March 2005 @ 06:58 |
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Yeah, I'll agree...probably the power supply.
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11. March 2005 @ 09:43 |
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Let me recap real quick.. All Is fine until you replace the Vid with another. Afterwich the system shuts off between 30 seconds and 5 min. Putting the old card back in does not fix the problem. Removing all hardware, including processor, buys you up to 10 minutes. After takeing your memory out to test and putting it back in you now stay on for only 30 seconds.
To me it seems when you mess with the hardware on the system you get a different result in how long your system will stay on. Now it could be the power supply but the power supply does not care about hardware. There are only two things left that do. The MB and the processor. (based on what has been written here).
So here is what I say. It could be one of the three. Here is whati think in order of probability. 1)MB is bad 2)power supply 3)Processor. This does not mean Im correct but is whatI feel based on the scenario.
If you turn it on and only see a fan twitch and thats it then 100% MB. Parts are needed to help. So you can try out theese theories. But if you do need a MB then make sure it has a very similar set up as the current MB. Also contact ASUS about the three year warrenty.
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