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bblinn
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31. March 2005 @ 04:20 |
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I posted this in the "newbie" forum, thinking that's where it belonged, but I got no takers there.
I have a Toshiba Tecra S1 with a built-in DVD burner. It's slow and -R only, so I bought a Sony DRX 710UL, expecting a great increase in speed.
The first DVD I made worked fine on the set top box. I'd used a DVD+R that had been around for a while. It wrote at (I believe) 2x.
Then I popped in an 8x DVD and produced a DVD that the set top box could not read, another computer could not read, and the DRX 710UL could not read.
Before I made the first 8X DVD, a message from either the drive or the application I was using said that a region had not been set and that not setting a region would cause problems. So I set the region (US/Canada).
I've burned several additional DVD+Rs (Fuji and Verbatim) with various programs (DVD Shrink and DVD43, Nero, DVD Decrypter, 1Click DVD Copy, and NTI CD & DVD Maker). So far, all I have to show for my efforts is 6 hours of wasted time and a stack of coasters.
The Nero system information and disk test all report no problems. ASPI is installed and running properly. The Tecra is a 1.1(or thereabouts)GHz system with 1GB of RAM and USB2 (no Firewire).
I see that there is a firmware upgrade for this drive, but I've seen some reports of serious problems if that is installed. I haven't yet downloaded or installed it.
Obviously, I'm doing something wrong. But what?
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31. March 2005 @ 11:30 |
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I've got the 710A Your not going to burn dvd movies on this drive at 16X. I've tried it the quality sucks. Maybe the new firmware will help. I got it just have not put it in yet. I've found on this drive Verbatum (MCC003) +R 8X, works great burned at 6X. Also unless the firmware helps the quality on -R disks are very bad. Most people you find will recommend burning at 4X becouse settop boxes are picky with media. I can tell ya it does make a diffrence the disks i burned at 12 and 16X would not play, 4X-8X played.
Good Luck
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31. March 2005 @ 20:47 |
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Also unless the firmware helps the quality on -R disks are very bad
- from my experience with the (internal) predecessor to the 710 (i bought the DRU-700A just a week before the 710 was on sale in UK), it should burn -R 100%. i concede i havne't burnt a single +R on my drive, but that's only cus i started out with -R and don't have issues with playback on anything i've used - PS2, half a dozen different standalones etc). I would look at book typing one of your burnt +R discs... hang on i'll find my previous post on this ....
EDIT - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/175695
snippet from that thread - Quote:
maybe you need to set the 'book type'. Nero will let you do this, as will standalone utils (on Liteon drives anyway).
a bit of info - http://www.dvdplusrw.org/Article.asp?mid=0&sid=2&aid=44
I think your drive (like mine) is a rebadged Lite-on so the above info should help.
official sony firmware if ya need it - http://sony.storagesupport.com/dvdrw/firmware.htm#700
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Never said I could not burn -R. I was saying the quality is not as good as +R. You can check it out here. http://cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Specific.aspx?ArticleId=10957
I just installed new firmware I'll let you know if it helps with quality of burns on +R and -R.
I tried Verbatum 8X-R before firmware upgrade the drive would not even reconize it. Will test it tonight with -R.
Later
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1. April 2005 @ 13:06 |
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Thanks for all the good info. In violation of every testing procedure in the book, I made many changes:
1-Downloaded and installed the firmware.
2-Reduced writing speed to 4x.
3-Bought a different brand (+R and -R) DVDs (Memorex).
After 5 tests (3 +R and 2 -R) here are the results:
One -R DVD seemed to be generally OK.
The second -R DVD has serious problems -- frequent (sometimes several per minute, sometimes several minutes between) freezes that last anywhere from 1-2 seconds to more than 15 seconds.
All three +R DVDs are reasonably good. One has a few momentary pauses. Not perfect, but acceptable.
Later, I'll test the Verbatim DVDs that had a 100% failure rate when I recorded them at 8x. (Interestingly, Sony lists the Verbatim DVDs as "certified" for this drive, but not the Memorex DVDs.)
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1. April 2005 @ 13:22 |
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Search Memorex. You will be amazed at what most people think of them. Good luck.
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2. April 2005 @ 02:09 |
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verbatim's are fine for the Sony (remember it's a rebadged Lite-On). ditch those memorex tho...
you're getting there, hopefully at the end of this you'll have movies that don't skip at all. I personally won't tolerate a single skip in my disks as the amount i burn i could potentially have many crap films. I'm doing about 10 today alone....but i digress, my guinness is getting warm!
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2. April 2005 @ 02:37 |
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Hi
I have the SONY DRX-700UL, external model.
I seem to have quite a few problems burning media with this model. I use DVD Shrink and Nero - I get quite a few coasters, particularly with DVD -R.
Any ideas? Thanks.
Rob
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2. April 2005 @ 04:45 |
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we need info - post your last section of the Nero log, remember to edit out the serial number first, its about the 3rd line down beginning with 1A21- or similar
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2. April 2005 @ 05:19 |
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Thanks for the reply - so where do I find the Nero log? I'm not actually sure what part of Nero is used for burning the DVD as its intergrated into Shrink isn't it? As in Nero came bundled with the writer but Shrink automatically starts it for the burn process?
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2. April 2005 @ 05:22 |
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sorry forgot to tell ya - mine is in "D:\Program Files\ahead\Nero\NeroHistory.log"
as for your other question i believe Shrink uses the installed Nero. You can always untick the setting in Shrink and manually burn using Nero or whatever you want..
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3. April 2005 @ 03:33 |
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*moved from dvd-r advanced*
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I posted this in the "newbie" forum, thinking that's where it belonged, but I got no takers there.
Yea .. it could have gone there also :) ... but multiposting is against the rules. Next time bump the thread.
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3-Bought a different brand (+R and -R) DVDs (Memorex).
After 5 tests (3 +R and 2 -R) here are the results:
One -R DVD seemed to be generally OK.
The second -R DVD has serious problems -- frequent (sometimes several per minute, sometimes several minutes between) freezes that last anywhere from 1-2 seconds to more than 15 seconds.
All three +R DVDs are reasonably good. One has a few momentary pauses. Not perfect, but acceptable.
I hate memorex :)
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Later, I'll test the Verbatim DVDs that had a 100% failure rate when I recorded them at 8x.
I've always burned at 4x ... except with my Plextor 716 (I burn at 8x). Verbatim media +R
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Hi,
This is the log from the latest failure!!!!!
Thanks for the help and just out of curiousity, why delete the serial number?
Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.60 (1021), size=45056 bytes, created 10/09/1999 12:06:00
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 26/10/2004 17:35:34
Nero API version: 6.6.0.8
Using interface version: 6.3.1.4
Installed in: C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\
Application: ahead\Nero - Burning Rom
Recorder: <SONY DVD RW DRU-700A> Version: VY08 - HA 3 TA 1 - 6.6.0.8
Adapter driver: <> HA 3
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : IC25N030ATCS04-0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : MATSHITA UJDA740 DVD/CDRW atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : AXV CD/DVD-ROM 2.2a a347scsi Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
MATSHITA UJDA740 DVD/CDR E: CDRom1
AXV CD/DVD-ROM H: CDRom2
SONY DVD RW DRU-700A G: CDRom0
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AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 766MB (785388kB)
Free physical memory: 385MB (394832kB)
Memory in use : 49 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
3.4.2005
NeroAPI
20:27:14 #1 Phase 112 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
DVD-Video files reallocation started
20:27:15 #2 Phase 114 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)
20:27:15 #3 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
DVD-Video files sorted
20:27:16 #4 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running
20:27:16 #5 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer SONY DVD RW DRU-700A running
20:27:16 #6 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 842
DRM: StartDrmRecording(RealRec:1, ImageRec:0, Copies:1)
DRM: Beginning burn process.
20:27:16 #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3293
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
20:27:16 #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3293
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
20:27:16 #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3153
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
20:27:17 #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 259
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2243119 (498:28.19, 4381MB)
20:27:17 #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 271
Write in overburning mode: NO
20:27:17 #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2316
Recorder: SONY DVD RW DRU-700A, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: CMC MA - G. AE1
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193
20:27:17 #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 433
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
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20:27:17 #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 830
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2243120 (2243120) = #2243120/498:28.20
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2243120 blocks [SONY DVD RW DRU-700A]
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20:27:17 #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1043
Prepare recorder [SONY DVD RW DRU-700A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
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MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4593909760, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
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__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2243120 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
20:27:18 #16 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Caching of files started
20:27:18 #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4040
Cache writing successful.
20:27:18 #18 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Caching of files completed
20:27:18 #19 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)
20:27:19 #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2609
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
20:27:19 #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2194
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode
20:27:19 #22 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21235
Set BUFE: Power-Burn -> ON , Adapt writespeed to disc : ON
20:27:19 #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2340
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
20:27:19 #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8430
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
20:27:19 #25 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5317
Drive: SONY DVD RW DRU-700A
Book Type request [LO]: DVD-ROM
Book Type setting not supported for the loaded disc type
20:27:40 #26 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1287
20:27:40.550 - SONY DVD RW DRU-700A\H3 T1 : Queue again later
20:31:27 #27 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1435
SCSI Exec, HA 3, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x01850000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
Sense Code: 0x30
Sense Qual: 0x05
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0B 0x80 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0B
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x05
20:31:27 #28 CDR -1046 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
Illegal disc
20:31:27 #29 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion
20:31:27 #30 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
conversion idle, stopping reader
20:31:27 #31 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2603
EndDAO: Last written address was 2943
20:31:28 #32 Phase 38 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Burn process failed at 4x (5,540 KB/s)
20:31:28 #33 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 867
DRM: DRM burn session terminated.
20:31:28 #34 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 896
DRM: Closing entire DRM handling. Bye.
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS': Ver=6.0.0.171 , size=24839 bytes, created 13/01/2003 11:19:26
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.60 (1021), size=25244 bytes, created 10/09/1999 12:06:00
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.42a, size=17184 bytes, created 21/10/2002 10:33:40 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\InCDfs.SYS': Ver=4, 2, 4, 1, size=89472 bytes, created 06/04/2004 19:39:20 (InCD4 driver for win NT/2K/XP)
File 'Drivers\InCDpass.SYS': Ver=4, 2, 4, 1, size=25600 bytes, created 06/04/2004 19:40:10 (InCD4 driver for win NT/2K/XP)
File 'Drivers\InCDrec.SYS': Ver=4, 2, 4, 1, size=5504 bytes, created 06/04/2004 19:43:22 (InCD4 driver for win NT/2K/XP)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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3. April 2005 @ 11:29 |
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enable dma on your burner and Uninstall InCD4
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3. April 2005 @ 11:32 |
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@sandpaper, some ppl out there might steal your serial number;
plus, from your log - your DMA is off, also you're using CMC media (you'll hear cries of 'the worst there is' i'm afraid)
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CdRomPeripheral : MATSHITA UJDA740 DVD/CDRW atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: Off
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Disc Manufacturer: CMC MA - G. AE1
i haven't checked on your firmware rev, it's a very new drive but we can look at that after.
EDIT - firmware of your writer looks ok.
- http://sony.storagesupport.com/dvdrw/firmware.htm#700
edit -
nice one Flip, i didn't notice InCD there at the end..
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3. April 2005 @ 13:00 |
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I just bought a new DRX 720A and I can only burn at 2X, tried higher and quality was bad(dvd freezes up, jerking, etc.), is this normal?
XP, 2.4 GHz, 512MB Ram, Sony DVD+R 1X-8X
Use DVD Shrink and Clonecd 1.3.10.1. Have nero but havent figured out how to use it yet, is it better than Clonecd?
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Use DVD Shrink and Clonecd 1.3.10.1. Have Nero but havent figured out how to use it yet, is it better than Clonecd?
Ya like Tai food? there are restaraunts called What the Pho??
You are comparing 3 totally different programs.
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3. April 2005 @ 15:04 |
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@bblinn,
DMA won't affect your Sony since it's an external drive. Is your Toshiba using USB 1.1 or 2.0?
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It's 2.0. I think the primary problem was crappy media burned too fast. Now that I'm using Verbatim 8x media and burning at 4x, all seems to be working (reasonably) well.
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3. April 2005 @ 16:03 |
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Did you remove InCD4?
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@bblinn - cool. it would be nice to get your DMA sorted on your Matsushita (can never spell that). Nice choice the Verbs, seem to match the Sony well.
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Hi,
I think the DMA is only off on the CD-burner, ie. the drive I am reading from? The SONY DVD-burner I am copying to is external and things go wrong when actually burning?
How do I change the DMA to on anyway as I assume it should be?
So, whats the InCD4 and how does it make a difference?
And finally, sorry for my ignorance, but what is CMC media, whats so bad about it?
Thanks for the help!
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Hi
Thanks again. I have removed the InCD but there is also a program called InCD Eastwrite Reader, should I also remove this?
Can you tell me how I put the DMA onto that drive please?
I reckon I'm going to be pretty narked off soon - I have had problems with my older SONY player with quite a bit of media (which was annoying as it matched all my other seperates!) so I purchased a new JVC unit last weekend. Some DVDs played on the SONY, others didn't. The JVC being new plays everything (even though they advertise it as DVD- and don't mention DVD+ which is odd?!)
Anyway, if I now go to use more expensive blank DVDs, like the ones suggested, whats the betting they would have played on my old SONY player anyway, and I didn't need to purchase the new JVC...DOH!!!!
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4. April 2005 @ 07:03 |
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re InCD Easywrite Reader - i think so, yes.
as for DMA do a search on here for DMA, you need to delete the primary & secondary ide channel, or might as well do all from 'ide/ata/atapi controllers'. reboot and the system will re-add them. just check theyre DMA'd again after.... in fact do a search for DMA then it'll make more sense than me explaining badly..
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