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15. May 2005 @ 08:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
All you people should give the L.G. 4163B a chance. It outperforms the NEC in every catagory. It also burns good media at higher speeds than they are rated and at NewEGG it is 49.00 with free shipping. The new firmware A104 will amke the picture quality look like 1:1 with over 50% compression. The Nec 3530A is good but if you don't flash it with Liggy and Dees hacked firmware in my opinion the L.G. 4163B is compatible with more media.
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15. May 2005 @ 10:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LG's are one of the last makes I'd recommend. Those and Optorites have more problems than any other.



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15. May 2005 @ 10:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Have had NEC 3520A burner for a couple of weeks. 8X DVD-R media from Verbatim (MCC), TDK (TTGO2), Fuji (FUJIFILM03), all have been perfect! No coasters or even a poor result at 8X with firmware updated to ver. 3.04
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15. May 2005 @ 10:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Why so negative on the L.G. I have for awhile now and its burns 8x media at 12x with great quality and it also supports DVD-Ram, something that the others do not. Just interested in your opinion.
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15. May 2005 @ 11:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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My experience: LG firmware updates and support have been poor. Dependability of their burners has been poor, and disk compatabililty has been erratic.
In short, Plextor, NEC, BenQ, Pioneer, Lite-On, would all be better choices. Some of these are less expensive as well! If you count re-badged brands, LG would have a hard time making a top 10 list.
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15. May 2005 @ 12:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LG makes one of the lowest quality burners on the market . i dont see how a LG can even be compared with other high quality burners .
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15. May 2005 @ 13:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
In all fairness, I own a Liteon 1673S, a Benq 1620Pro and the L.G. 4163B. In all tests on media and burn speed the L.G. has come out on top. It was the only one to recognize Yuden02 8x media at 12x with no change in the picture quality. I also had a finalization problem with the other writers (just + media ) that the L.G. solved. Granted I am running it in UltraDMA 66 mode but two off the other burners did not support. Yes, I have an Ultra ATA controller and the 40pin 80 conductor cables. I think L.G. has come a long was from there old burners with this new line. Again this is just my opinion, thanks for the input.
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15. May 2005 @ 14:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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I'm not keen on LGs because I've seen/helped too many folks having trouble with their LGs - poor media compatibility, short lifespan and ridiculous procedures for updating firmware.

You may have gotten a good one or its possible LG has improved of late but it'll take several generations of high quality drives for me to recommend them :)



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15. May 2005 @ 15:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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My 3 year old NEC is still burning, as is my nearly two year old Pioneer. Have new NEC as well.
Lifespan of LG burners is short; either partial or total premature death.
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15. May 2005 @ 16:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This could be very very true. I only have mine for about 50 burns or 3 months. But I have updated the firmware ( no big deal ) to A104 and its still going strong. I am going to replaces one of my other burners with the new NEC 3540A as soon as its available on NewEGG.Com. Until then. Thanks for the feedback.
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15. May 2005 @ 17:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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NEC 3520A at Newegg.com was $47.99 + $2.99 FedEx shipping. After firmware upgrade, it does everything 3540 will do. Prob not worth waiting for a burner likely to cost more than 20% more, or even higher.
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16. May 2005 @ 09:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I was told by the NEC tech( e-mailed them ) that the 3540A will be able to copy RW at 8x, and that the firmware for it will recognized more media.
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16. May 2005 @ 10:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
According to the NEC3520 specs, it will write to 8X on +RW and 6X on -RW. Unfortuantely haven't been able locally to find anything over 4X RW where I live. I've only had my 3520 for a week now, but I am more than pleased for $48. Don't know anything personally about other burners so I won't try to add to the dialogue above.
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16. May 2005 @ 11:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
With updated firmware that 3520 will burn to 16X +R DL and -R DL, as well as update media compatability. Price is rock bottom for an excellent burner. Not worth paying more for a slight increase in RW speed on newer model
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24. May 2005 @ 10:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What firmware are you refering to. Which Liggy & Dee firmware is the best fro NEC 3520A
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24. May 2005 @ 12:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am using the latest official firmware from NEC which is V3.04 found here:

http://support.necsam.com/oem/downloads/flashfirmware/

I see no need for any hacked version...
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24. May 2005 @ 13:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Have you looked into the 1UF with Riplock removed. I am just wondering if it is worth the flash. How fast does it Rip with the Riplock enabled.
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24. May 2005 @ 13:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have only used the latest NEC supplied firmware, 3.04. I can rip with another drive that is DVD ROM only.
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24. May 2005 @ 13:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have only used the latest NEC supplied firmware, 3.04. I can rip with another drive that is DVD ROM only.
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24. May 2005 @ 14:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just like to add my view on the NEC burners. I have been using them for about 3 years now, and never had a single fault. Now have a 3520 which has made about 300 film burns, 90% at 8x speed, and have only had a couple of failures, and these were probably down to the media. Just started using Taiyo Yuden disks for PS2 backups, and the quality and playback is first class and very smooth. I have always recommended NEC and so far no-one has ever come back with a problem.
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Same as StanH1000. I don't use hacked firmware. The 3520 rips at 1-2X on most DVDs. Single layer a little faster. But I use Lite-On 167T to rip (and it is fast) and set 3520 to 8X burns with Nero and presto in about 20 minutes a burned movie pops out.....
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24. May 2005 @ 15:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I thank you all for your replies. I think I will rip with my L.G. DVD-Rom and Burn with the NEC. I have the Liteon 167T on my sons machine with a Plextor burner (716A). I was thinking about having two burners and no DVD-Rom. Nec as master and L.G. 4163B as slave. I don't know if that will work but it can't hurt to try.
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24. May 2005 @ 23:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have had 2 burners in the same machine before, and Shrink will open 2 seperate instances, so you will be able to copy and burn 2 films at the same time. Obviously speed will depend on the machine you are using.
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25. May 2005 @ 13:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The Nec3520A is superior for speed and quality. I flashed it with mod firmware (1UF). Great firmware, it recognizes 8x media at 12x and 16x with no picture quality issues.
 
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