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sassyjo10
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13. May 2005 @ 17:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
HI ,I need some help. I have a sony Vaio with 120 MB hard drive,my son gave me an external western digital 160 MB hard drive. will this work with my system and exactly how to I go about connecting and setting it up? Thanks.

Motherboard ID 63-0300-000001-00101111-120803-SPDALE_G$MOHR2026_BIOS Date: 12/08/03 14:30:49 Ver: 08.
Motherboard Name Asus P4SD-VX
512MB memory.Pent 4 processor
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ScubaBud
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13. May 2005 @ 17:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm sure that your external HD has a USB plug correct? If you are running Windows XP nothing else is needed for your OS to detect the external HD.
ddp
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13. May 2005 @ 18:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
check this link. tho for seagate still the same for all hds http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/howto/install_xp_disk_mgmt.html
sassyjo10
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13. May 2005 @ 20:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for your help,yes I have windows XP.Will there be any problem with the processor running this? Sorry I am not to sure about hard drives,I think that and a processor is the only think I have never replaced on a PC. So it will have no problem running this extra hard drive? thanks again to both of you.
ScubaBud
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14. May 2005 @ 06:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not at all. I am assuming that this external HDD is a store bought unit with some instructions on initial setup. It should function just as intended, as an extra storage unit for your PC and will show as another HDD under ?My Computer?, once plugged in and connected to a power source. If there is to be any problems, it might be with USB 2.0 issues and with Windows XP and service pack 2, this shouldn't be an issue at all. Try it and let us know how you make out. :)
jpp01uk
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14. May 2005 @ 07:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
you sometimes get issues with the jumper settings on external hard drives.

the way to fix this is too take them off.

ive got an external hdd and windows xp will not recognise it with the jumpers on the drive, mines a maxtor
ScubaBud
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14. May 2005 @ 09:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
They must be set to master. If you remove the jumpers on a Maxtor, it defaults to Master.
baabaa
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14. May 2005 @ 10:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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They must be set to master.
Are you sure, because I have various hard drives (different OEM's) and I never have them jumpered because under USB there is no specification that requires the master/slave configuration as it is all addressed independently which identifies the hard drive to the system?

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14. May 2005 @ 10:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Are you sure, because I have various hard drives (different OEM's) and I never have them jumpered because under USB there is no specification that requires the master/slave configuration as it is all addressed independently which identifies the hard drive to the system?
Yes, I am sure. :)

Again, I'm sure you will find that by removing the jumpers, the default setting on most HDD's is Master or more correct, Single Drive. You have three choices, Master, Slave, or C/S. Again, the default for most without a jumper is Master/Single Drive.

I am read for battle on this issue... :)

correction and edit...

I am ready for battle on this issue... :)


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ddp
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14. May 2005 @ 10:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so than doesn't matter if jumper is on or not as windows will see the drive. just tried a fujitsu 4gig hd with jumper removed & my win98se found the drive with no problem!!
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14. May 2005 @ 10:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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I am read for battle on this issue... :)
LMAO............

...............PIO is no go, DMA all the way...............
Beware of the Pixies - they move in over night and turn your life upside down


ScubaBud
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14. May 2005 @ 10:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That is correct, with the jumper removed it will show as a master or single drive!!!

Some people believe that since they are attaching another HDD to there system, it should be set to Slave and that is incorrect.

My whole point is that an external HDD in an external case should default to master, not slave. I hope that this is a bit clearer.

OK baabaa... make fun of me now!!!! <G>

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ScubaBud
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14. May 2005 @ 11:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have a question... Does the Usb board in an external HDD have anything to do with it's preference of how a jumper might be set???
ddp
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14. May 2005 @ 12:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i don't think so as the 4gig i tried out was g: drive & even an 80gig maxtor set as master was g:drive!
baabaa
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14. May 2005 @ 22:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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OK baabaa... make fun of me now!!!! <G>
OMG, I am not making fun, I have just noticed that you spelt it incorrectly, but what I was laughing at was that you are ready to do battle..........

Infact you have just cleared up a major query I had........

What about external optical storage, is there any preferance there?

...............PIO is no go, DMA all the way...............
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ScubaBud
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15. May 2005 @ 03:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ BaaBaa

OK, here I go again, but this time, I am not going to commit since I want to do a bit of R & D myself first. I fear that I might be a creature of habit and that you brought on a point that I never really took into consideration before, that point being that it really should not matter about how the External drives are jumpered once set in an external case and not being on a ribbon cable attached to IDE. When doing a search on the web it seems that only WD drives default to "Single Drive" when un-jumpered. Maxtor and Seagate default to "Slave" so if this is correct, and some of you have un-jumpered your HDD's in an external case, that disproves what I have said earlier here on this thread. I've got two external cases of different makes and also a direct jumper from a 40 pin to USB setup that I want to test first, all with different jumper settings and with two different HDD's, one Maxtor and the other WD, to make a final post on this subject.

Also, look at my posts and notice my :) or <G> suggesting that I am also kidding with you! :)
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15. May 2005 @ 09:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LOL, I was wondering if we were going to have a fallin' out...........but couldn't think why!!!!!!!!.......LMAO.........

I am looking at Laptop hard drives, and these are not jumpered, so yes I do agree with what you saying regarding no jumper = single/master drive.
However I configured one (laptop HD) as a slave, and this would be detected in windows XP, but not in My computer as I found that windows would not assign a drive letter to it unless I removed the jumper (making it a single/master).

I think we are looking at this from both sides of the fence and pointing to the same thing........

Generally, an external hard drive must be set to single/master and not slave, in the case of 5 1/4 usually this may mean a jumper or not, but if it is a laptop, then no jumper required.


...............PIO is no go, DMA all the way...............
Beware of the Pixies - they move in over night and turn your life upside down


sassyjo10
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20. May 2005 @ 10:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
okay I plugged the power cord in and the usb into the PC ,it lights up but doesnt show in my computer or anywhere. it isnt making any noise as I assume it should when it starts. and no there are no instructions with it at all. any answers? as to what is wrong? thanks
sassyjo10
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20. May 2005 @ 10:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thought I might add that this is a western digital WD1600B015-RNN which has been discountinued so I cant find any info on it online even. Thanks
ddp
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20. May 2005 @ 12:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
is there a usb device icon in the bottom right corner??
sassyjo10
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20. May 2005 @ 12:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
no there isnt.There are three lights on the front of the hard drive but no usb icon in the lower right corner,Thanks
ddp
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20. May 2005 @ 12:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
have you tried all the usb ports on the computer?? is there a yellow exclamation mark in the device manager??
sassyjo10
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20. May 2005 @ 12:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have tried botht the ports on the front of the Pc and NO I checked there are no yellow exclamation marks in the device manager. I am at a lost to what is wrong,I dont know how to take it out of the case or I would see if I could tell anything about it. Thanks again.
ddp
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20. May 2005 @ 12:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
can you try it on another computer to see if it ids or not. how about the back of the computer usb ports. does the external hd use use external power as mine does?
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sassyjo10
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20. May 2005 @ 13:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes it didnt have the power adapter with it,it called for a 12VDC and I had a 13 vdc that I used ,could that be the problem? Thanks.I will also try the back usb.
 
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