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bartyl
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25. May 2005 @ 12:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i got a new hard drive but when i put it in by itself the boot up sequence says "no boot device detected".
Does this mesan that it is broken or what?
When i put in my old hard drive it boots up win xp no problem.
What do i do?

Barty
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ddp
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25. May 2005 @ 13:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
did you load windows on the new drive???
bartyl
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25. May 2005 @ 13:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No.
It has a version of win 2000 which i would format and it was booting win 2000 and then i went out and when i came back it comes up with the error mesaage.
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25. May 2005 @ 13:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think that I am going to bash my head into a wall. :) ddp is correct in what he is thinking.

If the hard drive that you put in has Win 2000 on it, then is it a hard drive that you got from someone else, who had it in his/her computer. If so, it does have to be reformatted and whatever OS you want to use, put on it, in order for it to boot up.

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bartyl
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25. May 2005 @ 13:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I dont want that os to boot up.i want to boot xp and use the 2000 hard drive as spare space.
How do i format it?

Barty
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25. May 2005 @ 14:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
tho for seagate still works on all makes of drives http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/howto/install_xp_disk_mgmt.html
also what are the jumper configuration for all hds & rom drives & on what ide ports, 1 & 2??

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25. May 2005 @ 16:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Install as slave then in windows xp open my computer, right click the select drive and choose format.

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26. May 2005 @ 00:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes but the computer doesnt even detect the hard drive at all.
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26. May 2005 @ 02:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Does it display HD during POST and is it present in the CMOS setup?

If so, configure the rear of the HD to slave (via jumper), connect it to the same IDE cable as your other HD.
Boot into XP as normal.
Right click My computer
Click on Manage
Click on Disk Management

You should see the hard drive in that window
Right click over the large area of that drive (MAKE SURE YOU DO THIS ON THE CORRECT DRIVE)
Select Format, and follow the prompts

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26. May 2005 @ 06:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sometimes you have to force your BIOS to recognize the drive.
Enter your BIOS upon boot and find the IDE settings for detecting installed drives. Also read this:
"Delay IDE Initial

Common Options : 0 to 15

Quick Review

Motherboards are capable of booting up much faster these days. Therefore, initialization of IDE devices now take place much earlier. Unfortunately, this also means that some older IDE drives will not be able to spin up in time to be initialized! When this happens, the BIOS will not be able to detect that IDE drive and the drive will not be accessible even though it is actually running just fine.

This is where the Delay IDE Initial BIOS feature comes in. It allows you to force the BIOS to delay the initialization of IDE devices for up to 15 seconds. The delay allows your IDE devices more time to spin up before the BIOS initializes them.

If you do not use old IDE drives and the BIOS has no problem initializing your IDE devices, it is recommended that you leave the delay at the default value of 0 for the shortest possible booting time. Most IDE devices manufactured in the last few years will have no problem spinning up in time for initialization.

But if one or more of your IDE devices fail to initialize during the boot up process, start with a delay of 1 second. If that doesn't help, gradually increase the delay until all your IDE devices initialize properly during the boot up process." [Adrian Rojak Pot]

Not sure of your mobo rev. and all, so I'm guessing.



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bartyl
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26. May 2005 @ 08:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I understand but it the computer was detcting it before?
The HD does not appear at all.
I will have a a look at the thing with the bios.
Thanks

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27. May 2005 @ 15:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
firstly you need to right click on the my computer icon and go to manage, there you will see disk managment, in disk managment you will see the new drive you installed, all you need to do is format.
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27. May 2005 @ 15:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
if the computer is not seeing the drive windows usually won't see it either than so check that the data & power cables is seated right, check that the drive is jumpered to master or slave to the other drive on same cable & do not select cable select jumper setting
bartyl
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27. May 2005 @ 23:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I dont really understand what this master and slave is.
Could someone tell me please.
The HD does not appear in the bios, in windows or anyhwere at the moment.

Barty

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28. May 2005 @ 06:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
on the back of the drive between the power & data connector are a set of pins with a description printed on the top of the drive. there is usually a black jumper on 2 of those pins for either master or slave. if you put this hd on same cable as your c:drive than c:drive will be jumpered as master & this drive will be d: will be jumpered as slave. all ide drives have to be set up as master or slave whether hd, rom drives, zip drives or whatever
bartyl
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29. May 2005 @ 13:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
and should the small plastic cases things be put on the same two pins on both drives or different?

Barty

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29. May 2005 @ 14:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
different if both drives on same cable. c:drive is master & d:drive is slave
bartyl
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29. May 2005 @ 14:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
k.
Il try


The bios thing doesnt work. i have a dell and they have not put it in the bios.

Barty



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bartyl
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30. May 2005 @ 03:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have spent ages trying to get them to work and now my main hard drive isn't being detected either.i will ring dell tomorrow as they are shut today.

Any ideas anyone?

Barty


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2 160Gb hard drives
Radeon 9550 256MB
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Labtec Arena-875 Surround Speakers
4 12" Blue Lights
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Win Xp Pro
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30. May 2005 @ 08:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what drives are on what cables, never mind the floppy drive?? also what are the jumpers set at on each drive??

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bartyl
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30. May 2005 @ 08:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i rang dell today and we spent about an hour going through everything and we didnt fix it so i think that we are going to buy a new computer and use the old bits.

Barty

AMD athlon 64 3500+
2Gb DDR400 Ram
2 160Gb hard drives
Radeon 9550 256MB
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Labtec Arena-875 Surround Speakers
4 12" Blue Lights
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19" Benq fp937s
Win Xp Pro
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