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is there/will there a dvdloader where the cd stops spinning?
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LiquidusX
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19. June 2005 @ 22:26 |
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yes but thanks for the tip
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Dix_Fix
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20. June 2005 @ 15:23 |
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R some of us Just STUPID or R we talking in SPANISH or something
Again 4 the F#%*^@g super intelects. I wish 2 load a PS2 (NTSC) copy (my customer only has a PAL TV, but does have an old modchip which doesnt allow forcing an NTSC game to play in PAL mode as DMS4 allows)The cheapest answer as I see it is DVD Loader. So that U can boot to the insert disc screen Press SQUARE 2 select the desired NTSC/PAL mode & swap the disc. aEasy right?
Wrong.
The machine in question is V12 (70002) Slim. This is the machine that Im trying to use DVD Loader.(I use SwapMagic 3.3)
The problem Im having is:
(1) I boot the machine (with SwapMagic 3.3 inside)
(2) SMD 3.3 does its thing & asks 2 insert disc.
(3) swap the SMD 3.3 for the DVD Loader
(4) DVD Loader does its thing & goes to the insert disc/USB screen
(5) The DVD Loader disc never stops spinning 2 allow U 2 swap.
does this help 2 clarify the problem.
It isnt about trying to load to HD its just trying to get the DVD Loader to work at all!!!
IS this a V12 thing??
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need_for2
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20. June 2005 @ 19:40 |
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i have a slim line as well and i have it modded to use swap magic 3.3, and im having no problem with it!!
it stops spinning wen the program loads up, u have one messed up slim machine!!
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Dix_Fix
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20. June 2005 @ 21:17 |
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Hi need_for2 if U read the post U would know the problem is with DVD Loader NOT SwapMagic.
Thanks anyway.
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20. June 2005 @ 22:44 |
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if you have swap magic 3.3 it has a PAL and NTSC option.so why would you need dvd loader for NTSC games?
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Dix_Fix
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21. June 2005 @ 13:23 |
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Hi sui-cyco I dont need DVD Loader 4 myself. I have a customer who has a (NTSC only) TV with a V7 & an old modchip. The modchip (unlike DMS4) wont let u set the color mode at boot. The problem is he has lots of Bali copies & of corse they r in NTSC. So he can only play them on a PAL only TV in B&W. Seeing as he has already paid 4 a modchip & the games, he is unwilling 2 pay 4 another mod i.e. SMD 3.3/3.6 or another modchip. So I said try CD Loader 4 the CD PS2 games & DVD Loader 4 the DVD PS2 games. Sounds easy. On downloading the DVD Loader.rar & unzipping it to .iso then burning it. I wanted 2 make sure my theory works. The only machine I have available 2 me is V12. I use SMD 3.3. So to test the DVD Loader I first have 2 load SMD 3.3. The DVD Loader disk never stops spinning 4 U 2 swap the disc. CD Loader works fine & solves the problem 4 CD based PS2 games. Im still left with the problem in DVD Loader.
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21. June 2005 @ 16:41 |
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well dvd loader is for swap magic.if he wants to use dvd loader he is gonna have to get swap magic.swap magic is what stops the disc from spinning not dvd loader(you insert swap magic after dvdloader is loaded).if he gets swap magic he wont need dvdloader to play imports anyway.
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MadBoomah
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23. June 2005 @ 01:11 |
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Ok. I think I know what they're asking.
You see, I had this problem myself. I kept killing myself asking how on earth DVDLoader was supposed to work if the disc never stopped spinning! Well, it turns out that the instructions aren't too explicit. It says to insert disc, but it doesn't say WHICH DISC TO INSERT! Spent over a week decyphering this dilemma and the answer si quite simple.
The disc is not supposed to stop spinning there. If you are using Swap Magic, you have to boot the DVDLoader disc and eject it. The you put the SwapMagic disc in and press X. After that a red screen comes up and soon it will EXPLICITLY ask you to put the DVD-R disc in by "EA Method" (which means to use knife , slide card, flip top method). THIS IS WHERE THE DISC STOPS SPINNING PEOPLE! Not on the first blue screen. It's on the following RED screen.
If you need to load the game using one of the DVDLoader options, then you have to press X BEFORE ejecting to Swap Magic to choose the option. This is because DVDLoader scans the disc to see if it's the DVDLoader disc. If it is, it'll load up the options. If it isn't, it will refresh the TOC and then ask you to swap.
The first time DVDLoader asks for a disc it's asking for the TOC refresh. Not for the backup. If you use Swap Magic, you put in your Swap Magic DVD here. If you use the memory card exploit, you put your big TOC game here instead and then press X! That's the big shocker here.
If I didn't answer your question then I didn't really understand what you were trying to ask. But I'm almost sure this is what you guys are asking yourselves. I can tell because I had the same question. It's just illogical to have a loader that never lets the disc stop spinning. It's kinda hard to believe, but most DVDLoader tutorials take this for granted but DVDLoader itself is not explicit enough to actually have you figure this out easilly on your own. I scratched my Final Fantasy X original disc because of the disc not stopping there. I felt like banging my head on a wall after I figured out that's not where you're supposed to swap. lol
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23. June 2005 @ 04:38 |
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yeah that is what i was trying to tell them.but dix_fix is trying to use dvdloader with a modchip.
seriously i dont see how dvdloader could be used without swap magic.one of the main functions of swap magic is to stop the ps2 drive from spinning so you can insert a game manually and the only other programs that can do that is action replay and gameshark.and they cost more than swap magic and dont work very well at all.
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MadBoomah
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23. June 2005 @ 13:41 |
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Oh, wait. He's using DVDLoader to use PAL instead of NTSC in games? Well, I think the only thing you choose that for in DVDLoader is for DVDLoader itself, not for the game you're loading. I've tried about 3 PAL games with it and they all run in PAL mode regardless of having DVDLoader set to NTSC mode (the mode I want) so unless I patch them they're not going to work properly on an NTSC screen.
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Dix_Fix
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23. June 2005 @ 15:25 |
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MadBoomah Hi I sussed it finally. Thanks U put me on the right track. Still with V12 the disc wont stop spinning. This is how I got it 2 work with V12. Boot with SMD 'wait' insert the DVDL 'X', 'wait'(select options here if needed),now press 'triangle' this stops the disc. Put the SMD back in, press 'triangle' again 2 restart the disc 'wait' , now press 'X' to TOC refresh, then finally the disc stops, the screen says 'put in DVDR by EA method' now the game U want 2 play & thats all she wrote. MadBoomah I'm sitting here right now watching an NTSC game on a PAL(only) TV in color. So the force PAL from DVDLoader definatly does work. DVDLoader forces the PAL mode 4 the game not just the DVDLoader program. Hang on I had better check if I can boot 2 NTSC (B&W) just 2 be sure of my logic. Yes I just booted DVDLoader using the NTSC selection & my game is now in B&W. Probably the reason yours (MadBoomah) booted the same each time is that yr TV is multi sync (NTSC / PAL / SECAM) it doesnt matter what signal U feed a multi sync TV it will still play in color. The TV should tell U (on screen display) what mode it is in, also if the PS2 changes from NTSC to PAL or vise-versa yr TV should tell u (OSD) should say NTSC or PAL.
LiquidusX try this it may work 4 U 2
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23. June 2005 @ 19:38 |
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you do now understand you need swap magic to get dvd loader to work right?and if you have swap magic you could use the pal or ntsc option on that to play imports,so dvdloader is not really needed.
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LiquidusX
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27. June 2005 @ 12:19 |
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so the answer's no?
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27. June 2005 @ 14:29 |
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the answer was to use swap magic after you put in dvdloader then the disc will stop .
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LiquidusX
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28. June 2005 @ 12:50 |
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unacceptable. i use swap magic put in dvdloader it won't stop spinning. i can't eject cuz the tray falls off.
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28. June 2005 @ 14:53 |
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well get a new ps2.one that the tray doesnt fall off of.
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LiquidusX
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29. June 2005 @ 01:04 |
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nein senor!
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LiquidusX
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29. June 2005 @ 01:04 |
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simple yes or no to anyone who knows if ya don't, don't post
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MadBoomah
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1. July 2005 @ 19:17 |
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It's supposed to stop after you do the proceddure I said up there. That's what DVDLoader is for. And no, you don't necessarily need SM to boot DVDLoader. I use the memory card exploit to boot CDLoader and CogSwap and everything works fine. :)
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2. July 2005 @ 00:37 |
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well then you would need cogswap.the point is you are gonna need another program.
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MadBoomah
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2. July 2005 @ 04:12 |
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I said and, not with. lol. You can fire up CDLoader using an elf loader like PS2Menu. There's a .elf to load it up without having to do an extra swap. So, I just do the exploit, put in CDLoader disc with slide tools, run .elf and CDLoader loads. No other pass through a swapping program. ;)
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2. July 2005 @ 06:03 |
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well how did you make the memory card exploit?with another program?
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MadBoomah
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2. July 2005 @ 06:24 |
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I made the save with the save maker and sent it through AR Max with Exploit Sender. I make the PS2 boot PS2Menu, so I can run any code from there after I begin the exploit with the PSX game. It's basically what you do with the independence installer, only that I did it the long way without a mod. Since PS2Menu stops the disc from spinning after it's loaded, I can swap in any CD with elf's or with homebrew code to boot. Games can't load through PS2Menu, but this way I can boot CDLoader through PS2Menu without having to run CogSwapLoader to boot the CDLoader disc. I basically run it without having to swap it with an original PS2 game.
So, I'm doing everything SM can without having to buy it. I didn't even buy ARMax since a friend of mine bought it. I didn't have to pay for anything to get my PS2 to run backups without a mod chip. :)
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2. July 2005 @ 08:17 |
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ok,so that basically means someone who doesnt have a really nice friend is still gonna have to pay for something(ar max).thats like me saying someone gave me swap magic and me telling them how i didnt have to pay to play backups.the whole point was he didnt want to pay for ANYTHING extra.and i think swap magic is the same price if not cheaper than ar max.and its easier to use.
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Solidus90
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2. July 2005 @ 12:57 |
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dude just get a modchip. This swap magic stuff is wayyy to complicated for me. I just installed a dms 4 ezi pro and it works flawlessly :)
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