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AMD or PENTIUM
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Tinker1
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22. June 2005 @ 12:40 |
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Amd athlon 64, or P4
i am buying a new cpu and cant decide what to get, either amd athlon 64 3000 or P4 prescott 3 GB
can anyone give me advice as to which one is best ?
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22. June 2005 @ 13:22 |
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AMD for a gaming machine, all the way!
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22. June 2005 @ 13:28 |
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i've always stuck with AMD and i'm happy with the results. AMD all the way =P
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22. June 2005 @ 14:12 |
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AMD is for more of the sharing files processor, it can handle "ONLINE" gaming better then a P4, but the P4 is way better at multitasking and in my opninon is more stable..
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22. June 2005 @ 14:21 |
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All of the gaming techies out there will pick an AMD over a pentium most days. Not sure of the technical differences, they just seem to be configured better for gaming purposes. Pentium people will tell you of their advantages.
Never known an AMD chip to be "unstable" though.
Pulsar
PS, I have absolutely NO intention in getting into a technical debate here. I leave that to the others.
@ Tinker1, what is the PC going to be doing? That should influence the choice of chip you use.
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22. June 2005 @ 14:30 |
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2 ur query about AMD or P4
I have to agree with all above but with one change.
u may already know this.
AMD runs HOTTER than P4 its a reliable cpu i personally have AMD on my comp i am using right now.
All u may need to get is an extra Fan to keep the whole system cooler.
thats bout it on average it really depends on what ur using the pc for??
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22. June 2005 @ 14:33 |
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I am now longing to know what this PC is for, Tinker1 - please put us out of our misery!!
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22. June 2005 @ 14:35 |
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My 2 AMDs, a 2600XP & a 3200 Barton have proved very reliable in both of my PCs.
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22. June 2005 @ 14:54 |
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well i would like to play games like San Andreas and i would also like to de-code divx to dvd!
and also the internet and thats about all i am needing it for!
also wat ever a pick am gonna put 1024 DDR ram with 120Gig hard disc
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22. June 2005 @ 15:05 |
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I recommend a MINIMUM of a 3200 64bit Athlon. The thing that will make the difference in the gaming is your graphics card!
A 6800GT or Ultra would be nice, or SLi cards (PCI-Express). The choice is ovewhelming, especially as Nvidia has just released the new 7800 series!!
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22. June 2005 @ 16:43 |
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Please note that Athlon64 runs much cooler than the latest P4 toaster-ovens.
Intel is up against the wall (hard) with energy consumption and heat dissipation, and cannot produce faster chips within the current cooling technologies.
This is why they are hyperthreading and dual-coring, they must find AMD-equalling performance in more innovative ways.
An Athlon64-3000 is a great CPU :^) Very powerful and inexpensive!
I would get the Athlon64 on a MATX mobo with the new ATI XPRESS200 chipset
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_deta...
and put it in an Antec Aria MATX cube-case, very kewl.
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22. June 2005 @ 17:59 |
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The heat issue was fixed in the AMD 64 line. Mine runs far cooler than the P-4 I used to have. I could even remove the noisy fan needed to keep the system cool with the P-4. Without that fan my system would lock up. Computer is nice and quiet now. In fact an AMD 64 that runs at 2.2 (3200)Ghz is cooler than the P-4 2 Ghz.
Another note on P-4 and fans. When HT hit Intel they shipped with a variable speed fan. It has a thermostat on it. If it thinks the case is getting to hot it speeds up. It sounds like a Harley is parked outside your house when at full speed. That noisy fan I had kept the variable speed fan from maxing out and was actually quieter than the Intel fan.
Multitasking. According to numbers Intel has a slight lead over AMD in this area. Really only enough for a computer to notice. A human will not notice a difference. Heck right now I am burning a DVD in Nero, Authoring a DVD to be burned, Converting files to become DVD and surfing the net all at once. The computer runs just as good as if only one thing was running. So don't tell me Intel is far better at multitasking. Just look at my specs in my sig, it is the top computer.
Games. Intel cant touch AMD here. This is human noticeable. In my exact setup with a P-4 3.2 Ghz and DFI MB as a difference. I was only getting 25FPS in Halflife 2. When I went to my current specs I jumped to 80FPS in HL2. That is a difference your eye will see.
GHZ. This is not really something you can base the speed on but I will say this. If you take an AMD anything and put it with a p-4 and both RUN at the same GHZ. Intel would not have a chance at anything. The AMD would be at the finish line before the INTEL takes one step. Makes you think who really knows how to put a processor together.
Stability. I had more lockups and unexplained reboots with HT. Pre HT P-4 are more stable. I have never had a system lockup or unexplained reboot with my AMD. Also know this INTEL now has DRM Firmware in their processors. They did not want people to know this. Somehow it leaked out and they had no choice. So by owning any new INTEL you are setting yourself up for many restrictions. The DRM alone would make me say no and this issue alone has placed all INTEL products on my personal Boycott list.
Hope my take on this helps you out a little. You will get mixed input but for games stay with AMD. You will smile a lot more. AMD64 seems to be a bit faster than XP. The 64 part really has no advantage right now but will in the future.
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22. June 2005 @ 18:06 |
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My last 2 computers were AMD, very stable. I'll never go back to Intel, not worth the money
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23. June 2005 @ 04:58 |
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whats the better one out of the p4 HT or the Prescott??
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23. June 2005 @ 05:52 |
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Tinker none because they have DRM.
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Tinker1
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23. June 2005 @ 06:03 |
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sorry whats DRM?
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23. June 2005 @ 06:23 |
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DRM is the reason you can't put you Itunes onto CD. Or WMA files for that matter. It is a copyright protection designed to prevent duplication to a foreign system. Very similar to SONYs Magic Gate stuff in their memory sticks. Devices that use that will not run things created from another device even if they are the same type of device. I hope you understand now.
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23. June 2005 @ 07:01 |
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LoL - thought you might use the magic words, Del...
Digital Rights Management
Yes it is Evil (to us, anyway :^)
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23. June 2005 @ 08:04 |
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Well isnt DRM part of windows? I dont see how it relates to the cpu. You can't play DRM mp3's on another pc weather it's amd or intel.
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23. June 2005 @ 09:49 |
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Yes it is part of Windows put can also be part of firmware. You know that SONY thing I mentioned up there. It is pretty much the same as DRM and it is all hardware driven. The only software part is the coding in the files made from the original units Hardware. SO now you know a processor can have and run DRM without the need for software.
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23. June 2005 @ 19:56 |
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im runnin a amd athlon xp 2600 and it run fine i would say amd over intel any day
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23. June 2005 @ 23:16 |
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I'm all about AMD.........AMD me baby!!!!!!!! Intel hypes up there cache speeds to make up for there shitty bus speeds!!
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24. June 2005 @ 05:35 |
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Me and my best mate have a amd and we haven't had a prob with it at all some of me other friends have a p4 and they keep complaining about it over heating or feezing or somthin like that
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24. June 2005 @ 05:42 |
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So, what is it to be then Tinker1?
AMD or Pentium?
Did we help you make a decision?
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24. June 2005 @ 06:50 |
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well sorry to say ppl its gonna be P4 :o)
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