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Win MX - too many fake files??
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duttch
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27. June 2005 @ 21:41 |
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win mx has been the software i've used for along time and its been very good (the best for music mp3)
havent been using it of lately but just started up again and have been bombarded with files that dont seem to connect??anyone else having a prob like this??
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marcus23
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28. June 2005 @ 00:34 |
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Yes, this occurance is typical for all P2P programs, especially unmoderated. Try with eMule. They have much better system for weeding out fakes.
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28. June 2005 @ 00:55 |
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I also have problem with that. Try to download a file but it won't connect. I use limewire pro it download pretty good but there is just so many fake files. Like music you download it and it will say 10 hours and nothing will play.
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duttch
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28. June 2005 @ 04:35 |
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ok thanks guys
so i'll give emule a go..........
is there this kind of prob with bittorent files? (i still haven't check this process out- is it good for mp3)
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btitus
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28. June 2005 @ 04:44 |
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I've had pretty good success with Aresgalaxy.
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manc123
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28. June 2005 @ 07:01 |
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bittorrent is awesome for mp3s ive never had any probs or fake files. and like previously said p2p is on its way out.
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28. June 2005 @ 07:47 |
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If the problem happens every time (your tasks turn yellow) switch to limewire. You can uninst/reinst WinMX but it won't work.
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28. June 2005 @ 07:47 |
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If the problem happens every time (your tasks turn yellow) switch to limewire. You can uninst/reinst WinMX but it won't work.
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duttch
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28. June 2005 @ 15:48 |
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yer thanks guys....
i think that p2p is probaly on its last legs, winmx was great but is ruined with fake files - i have to find more about bittorent and how to use it?? is there a good site for mp3 and what's a good program to use?i dwload ABC? but dont have a clue yet on how to use it....
thanks again guys for all the info/advise
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diabolos
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28. June 2005 @ 17:44 |
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Guys there are allot of ways to use WinMX to weed-out fake or corrupt files yourself. Fake and corrupt files are rampent but its very easy to see which ones are and arn't fake. The ones that are fake usually let you know it pretty quick. They have either a problem with their frequency, time, and or bit-rate. I can tell you now that allot (like 90%) of the fakes suffer from incorrect bit-rate or frequency display. Mp3 (and many other formats including OGG Vorbis) have very strict encoder settings. Using the LAME encoder an MP3 file should be between 32 and 320 Kbps with a frequency no less (and no greater for most content) than 44.1 KHz (CD quality). If the file was encoded using a Constant Bit-Rate (CBR) scheme then the bit rate should be either: 32, 40, 48, 56, 64, 80, 96, 112, 128, 160, 192, 224, 256 or 320 kibit/s. Frequency is always a good endicator because no matter what the bitrate it always will be either 44.1 KHz (44100 Hz) or 48 KHz (48000 Hz). If these two things are not true, the file is fake (and/or corrupt).
Another way to spot fakes is to compare the time, bitrate, frequency and size information. Using WinMX this is a very easy thing to do. For example: If an Mp3 file is encoded at 128 kbps (CBR) at a freq. of 44.1 KHz it will produce aprox. 1 MB every minute. Also, most audio files are encoded using a CBR method with a bit-rate of 128 (for older files) and 192 (for newer ones). Variable Bir-Rate(VBR) files are harder to check without doing a little math but its worth it if you care about quality and can't find it anywhere (or can't stand paying for your music).
The P2P idea isn't going away anytime soon. We haven't even seen what the technology thats being developed to defeat the entertainment industry(s) can do. Also lets not forget about the P2P alternatives like Bittorrent.
Viva, Open-Source!
Ced
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 28. June 2005 @ 21:35
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gch05
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29. June 2005 @ 18:49 |
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diabolos - good post with some great information. I followed all your instructions and still am having no luck with downloads. Am I missing something - I have cable internet - latest winmx version - a couple of months ago I had no problems - now I can't download anything???
Any help would be appreciated...
Thanks,
G
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29. June 2005 @ 18:50 |
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30. June 2005 @ 01:52 |
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If it's music you'r looking for, may I Reccomend Blubster?
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Highest quality files
Highly regarded as one of the most effective file-sharing programs, Blubster not only offers you the most well known mp3 files to download (.MP3) but also offers you the possibility to find professional quality streaming files - Ogg Vorbis, in your downloads. (.OGG)
User interaction
Communicating with other users is as simple as a click. Once your client program connects with another client you can search and download Mp3 music files from the entire Blubster community. With an unlimited number of peers connecting to its network, chat and ?voice chat? are available and can get you in touch with any user you find in the network.
Online Friends
By creating a "Hot List", you can always see if your friends are connected to the MP2P network. This is not only a good way to "keep an eye" on your friends, but also the easiest and most fun way to make new friends with the same musical interests as you.
Easy-to-use interface
Blubster offers an excellent graphical user interface with clear buttons that make your downloading process very simple. The complete toolbar is placed on top of the layout and makes it simple to access your shared folder, searches and files transfers. Your mp3 player is located at the bottom and you?ll have full control without complex menus.
High-speed rate
The estimated download time has been accelerated using the latest technologies. The incredible speed that the MP2P network reaches is due to the thousands of users that are part of this open--music online community. Blubster searches the network for all available sources for a file transfer and selects the fastest sources to start downloading. The program conducts file downloads at a great speed, not forgetting the quality factor: your music downloads will be automatically verified to avoid errors or fake files.
Auto resumable downloads
When the download begins, Blubster will check fingerprints in order to download from multiple machines. This provides faster-than-average results for everyone. If you try to download a file you already share, you can choose to resume, overwrite, rename or even cancel the download. When you find a file you already store in your hard disk, you can play it from within the search result itself.
Play List
Using our free software you will be able to manage all of your files using a playlist, listening to them with the new internal music player. This saves you time and offers an extremely high quality sound, loading your mp3s directly from your "My Shared Folder".
Advanced Searches
You can also get a more concrete result from your song quest by using the advanced search option; specifying the estimated bitrate and file size you want. Blubster provides the fastest distributed search on any peer-to-peer network
Web links
Web links provide a new and exciting way to share your music. Just a couple of clicks will allow your shared files to be turned into links which can be placed in web pages, or entered into a standard web browser. When you click a web link, Blubster will open and download the file.
Blubster is a new de-centralized P2P network powered by MP2P giving you lightningt fast downloads and total anonymity.
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Blubster is based on the MANOLITO protocol developed by Pablo Soto. By taking into account both the Gnutella v0.4 and UDP protocols, Pablo learnt from their mistakes and created a truly new principle of p2p file sharing.
To understand these innovations let?s look at the problems faced by Gnutella users. Gnutella is not a democratic way of sharing. It is flooded by ?free riders?, in other words 70% of users do not share any of their files.
About 50% of file sharing on Gnutella is done by the top 1% of users. Of course this leads to an inequality in sharing and is ultimately detrimental to a p2p network. However, this is not the only problem that current peer-to-peer networks suffer from. Traffic has in the past been too flooded by modem users, the protocols contained no metadata concepts and there is a lack of scalability.
MANOLITO is based on top of the UDP transport protocol. This is big advantage over TCP/IP for two very significant reasons. Firstly TCP/IP is reliable. This means that it is not anonymous. File sharing can be tracked and subsequently shut down by the-powers-that-be. This is not the case with UDP. Secondly UDP is faster than TCP/IP, if you don?t believe it ? test it yourself.
MANOLITO has many other benefits over its competitors. New features can be constantly added owing to its innate scalability, giving users access to increased functionality with full backward compatibility, over unlimited content and connections.
Blubster also has some clever tricks in how it uses the MANOLITO protocol. Blubster runs through ?Gateways? - web pages that contain peer lists. These are very simple and allow Blubster to maintain gateways around the world in case some servers are shut down.
Blubster also makes use of a unique method of ?Smart Caching?. Blubster uses compression technology to save thousands of IP addresses in an encrypted cache. MANOLITO is capable of testing up to 15,000 hosts a second, thus the look-up of peers and connection speed is much faster than the traditional TCP/IP protocol.
Thing is, It is bundled with Ad-Ware (Which can be removed with Ad-Aware!)
And there's no such thing as fake files on this network, because you can only share mp3 and ogg files!
Check it out - http://www.blubster.com/v2/blubster.html
-Mike
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duttch
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30. June 2005 @ 21:53 |
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yer i tried what diabolos said and didnt have much luck - i just put it down to something i am not doin?
Blubster sounds good without the ad ware -
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30. June 2005 @ 23:59 |
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Yeah, the only downfall is you can only get music, but at least your safe from fake files. You should try it out.
-Mike
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duttch
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1. July 2005 @ 04:32 |
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yer thanks mik3h
music is all i need :)
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1. July 2005 @ 13:53 |
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Dont mention it ;)
-Mike
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1. July 2005 @ 13:54 |
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:O
My status got updated :D {Senior Member}
-Mike
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2. July 2005 @ 13:32 |
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marcus23 & Mik3h,
both of you need to read the forum rules. No advertising. Edit your sigs.
Mik3h you being a Senior should have known that already
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2. July 2005 @ 13:49 |
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Sorry...
-Mike
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duttch
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2. July 2005 @ 14:24 |
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hmmm
just tried that link - to dwload blubster and it said that
"This title is no longer available!"
is there somewhere else to dwload it?
thanks
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duttch
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2. July 2005 @ 14:28 |
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just done a search and came across this
Blubster: Do not use
OIT discourages the use of Blubster for the following reason:
Unlike other p2p applications, Blubster is an executable file rather than a downloadable program that you install on your hard drive. Because there is no installation, Blubster does not create subdirectories on your computer. With Blubster, no installation means there is no uninstall option. Also, there is no disconnect option?once you're running the executable file you are continuously connected to the Blubster community for file transferring.
what do you think?ignore it??
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2. July 2005 @ 22:29 |
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Yeah, lol
That's the biggest lot of garbage ever. You can disconnect whenever you like and you can uninstall it whenever you like. It contains Adware which you can get rid of with using Ad-Aware -
http://www.lavasoft.com/support/download/
Enjoy.
-Mike
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duttch
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3. July 2005 @ 20:04 |
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yer i thought so..............
thanks mike
and con-grad on becoming a senior citizian - i mean member? :)
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3. July 2005 @ 23:12 |
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Lol no problem.
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and con-grad on becoming a senior citizian - i mean member? :)
I'm only 15! Lol, thanks :)
-Mike
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