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swatflies
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3. July 2005 @ 16:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry guys, I'm such a noob but I only have a pretty quick question. I want to put two laptops on a network. They both have wireless LAN cards built into the laptop. My question is: Since I want to set them both up in a working network where they can share files and the printer (and all that jazz) would I still need to get a router? Or a cable to connect both of the laptops?

I know how to setup a network with a desktop pc and a laptop but I don't know what I need in order to do it laptop to laptop. Can anyone help me, please?

Much obliged!!
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3. July 2005 @ 18:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm not an expert at wireless networks, but I'm fairly certain you still need a router to connect the two. Or at least a crossover network cable.

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3. July 2005 @ 18:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
same situation as laptop & desktop so either get a router or wireless router
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4. July 2005 @ 04:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes, you can connect two computers together via wireless without a router. It is called an Ad Hoc Wireless Network.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/bowman...
See that page for a description on how to set it up.
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4. July 2005 @ 19:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey thank you so much for the replies. I had heard about Ad Hoc but I didn't know how to go about that. That site is very useful! But in case problems arise for whatever reason, what is a crossover network cable???

Thanks!
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4. July 2005 @ 19:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
crossover cable is not straight pin to pin but crossed like pin1 to pin2 & so on
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4. July 2005 @ 19:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
oohhh!!! I didn't know that was the name of that cable. hah! But once, I do get that cable and I hook up both laptops, I would just go about setting up the network as usual, right? Without touching the internet connection too, right?
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4. July 2005 @ 19:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes!!
swatflies
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4. July 2005 @ 20:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
woo! thanks!
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4. July 2005 @ 20:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
teach & learn
swatflies
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4. July 2005 @ 22:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
aah! I just confused myself. So let us say the two laptops are near a place that has the internet connection and wireless network (both of the laptops can get into that network), but I want thesde two lappys to have their own network. the crossover cab lets me do this (yay!) but that means I won't have to ad hoc it right? (i don't want to have to get a router.)

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swatflies
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5. July 2005 @ 07:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
oh...btw, couldn't an usb cable serve to just connect the two laps and such?
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5. July 2005 @ 07:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
would need a usb hub for that if i am right
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5. July 2005 @ 07:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Your best bet is a wireless router. At first you need to have it hooked up to a computer to set it all up and configure it. So I hope one of your computers has an ethernet port. If not, use someone elses computer to configure the router. Once it's set up and you have the WEP key, if you choose to encrypt, then the router can just be hooked up to a power source and your modem.

If you plan on transfering large files between them, you are better off connecting them through ethernet, if you have the ports. Wireless g is 54Mbps. Depending on your laptop, ethernet could get you 100-1000Mbps. 54Mbps is good for music sharing and internet, but not anything like a DVD .iso etc.

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5. July 2005 @ 10:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hmm...yes...it seems that you are right. router is the way to go!

woo! thanks!
swatflies
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6. July 2005 @ 18:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey, are there any such things as usb splitters???
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6. July 2005 @ 18:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
that is what a hub is basically
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6. July 2005 @ 19:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok, how about any usb cables with more than one head on one end??? i...haven't seen any, sadly.
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6. July 2005 @ 19:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
& you won't either. aLL data cables except for drives only have 1 connector on each end
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7. July 2005 @ 10:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Don't bother networking through USB if you don't have to, go for gigabit LAN if you can.

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7. July 2005 @ 10:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
unless you plan to move large amounts of data, a standard 10/100 NIC should work fine, gigabit is a little extreme for basic networking of two computers

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7. July 2005 @ 15:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i see, what exactly is 10/100 NIC? oh...i don't plan on move incredibly large amounts of data which is why i'm considering not even getting the router but it seems to be the least complicated...

hmmm...
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7. July 2005 @ 16:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There you go, just get the router. 10/100 is just a slower networking method, at least now that you can get gigabit (1000).

Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.

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7. July 2005 @ 16:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
10/100 nic is 10mps/100mps network card or router
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swatflies
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7. July 2005 @ 17:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lol cool. so here's anothe question not directly related to networking and such, but could i use an usb hub to serve solely as a connector for a printer then two laptops? i don't think i can but it seemed plausible to me at first.
 
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