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dkertesz
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2. September 2005 @ 23:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
im building a pc and im not too sure what to get :S i was going to go with the 6800 but a guy at eb games said:"ohhh your getting the wrong Video card go with ATI" please help me make a choice between the two!

ATI Original X800XL 256MB DDR CRT TV OUT DVI PCI-E-$378(CAN)
MSI NX6800 TD/256 PCIE 256MB DDR w/VGA/DVI/TV-Out-$373(CAN)
thx,
David

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3. September 2005 @ 03:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I say go with the nVidia card. Their driver support is very very nice. I used to have ATI with Catalyst Drivers, and just because of that my system took like a minute to load.

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3. September 2005 @ 03:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yip i would say nVidia aswell...

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dkertesz
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whats the like best make for nvidia cards?, is msi any good?

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what do you want the video card for if its for hardcore gaming i'd reconmend NVIDIA nForce4 SLI X16
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3. September 2005 @ 18:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Go with nVidia. The problem is...MSI are not very good video card manufacturers...they make good motherboards...but not so much video cards.
killerc
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i still think you should get NVIDIA nForce4 SLI X16
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lol iam gonna say go with the ATI thats what i have and its a kick ass card.

Antec Overature ATX Quiet Media Case w/ TruePower480Watt/Asus K8V SE/ Seagate160GB Barracuda/ ATI-Radeon-X850 XT Platinum/ 512 PC-3200 DDR400 X 2/AMD Athlon 64 3000+ 512K/5 Fans/Plextor712A Drives/View Sonic VP201b 20.1"LCD,16 MS Respone time
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heres the review it def. the best card on the market i shelled out 600 bucks for it

so like i said its Bad Ass thats if you want the best out there

http://reviews.cnet.com/ATI_Radeon_X850_XT_Platinum_Edition/4505-...

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If you even consider wanting to try an alternate OS such as Linux, BSD, or hopefully OSX-86 later do NOT go with an ATI card. Their driver support for anything besides Windows is far behind Nvidia. OpenGL support is much better on Nvidia too, which means such things as Transgaming and WINE for Linux work much better on Nvidia than any ATI card.

I also think Nvidia's Windows drivers are much more stable. I remember a couple years ago having to downgrade ATI Catalyst drivers to play Neverwinter Nights, it wouldn't even play on the latest.
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4. September 2005 @ 17:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
nvidia is the only card you can really ajust the color.ati is real bright and dull sort of whatvoodoo cards were a long time ago
killerc
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what do you mean colour
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you can adjust the intesity of the color.so if your like me and want to see alot of color in a games. you can turn up the color and make it more vibrant.on a ati card, plug it in ,you get what you get, no option to adjust the color. it called digital vibrance thats what makes nvidia rock out

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killerc
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ohh i c so get nvidia to me it sound way better than ati



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No,ATI is better than nvidia ,read thew reviews in the post above in that link and your see ATI OUT PREFORMS nvidia
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4. September 2005 @ 21:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
it all boils down to fanboy vs. fanboy, as already seen in this thread. to get the most for your money, not only do you need to compare reviews, but benchmarks, vital statistics, and support. you might get recommendations here, but they're going to be quite biased. to find the best for yourself, you're really going to have to look for yourself. a fanboy can never point you in the right direction...they're too busy looking up towards w/e they worship to look down the path. :D


rugripper
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if your computer is fast it really wont matter that much.i have a rinky dink axp 2800+ that i overclocked to a 3000+ w\768ram and a 6800 gt agp video card and i can play most games on high.except fear i have to play on medium,but you were talking about sli motherboards so i guess your going to build a slammer.if you have 2 6800 ultras or 2 7800 gtxs even one gtx that comp will fly.and nvidia ,compare the color over 20 frames per second when your pushing 160 fps.who cares if ati can do 170 or 180 fps.the color vibrance means alot when your tring to get the best experience about what your playing.i had the best card ati put out for agp[x850xt][something like that.it was a faster then the 6800 gt i have now but the picture was so bright,like the brightness is cranked to high and the colors are real dull.if you want to check out both buy the ati from best buy,next day buy the nvida from best buy compare and take back the beat ati[lol] oh i mean bad card back to the store.they have a 30 day no hassle return policy.just say that the color is real bad.very true like the old voodoo cards ran fast but no color
rugripper
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hey aus im not a fanboy just hate looking at something that has no color.i agree the ati is alittle faster then nvidia,but the bottom line is the picture quality just sucks.hell see for himself if he follows my advice
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4. September 2005 @ 21:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
my comments weren't aimed at you specifically, rugripper...it was more of a general observation. picking up both is a good idea. he could test them both, return them, then order one of the cheaper online :D


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NVIDIA all the way! wheres ATI's SLI ready cards?

Is it crap or is it memorex?
dkertesz
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4. September 2005 @ 23:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
umm they are commin out in the next month or even weeks, i take it you never heard of the crossfire?
well thx the advice. Now lets say i got:

The X800XL is it a good overclocker would i be able to overclock it to the 6800GT?

If i get the 6800GT Will i be able to overclock it to the 6800 ULTRA?and what type of power supply would i need to do this?
(i will prob be getting XFX or eVGA)

One more thing, All i really want to do is play BF2, So would i be able to play BF2 (everything on High) and not even that high resolution! am i going over the top here?

And for the guy that sent the cnet review, we are talkin about the X800XL not the ATI Radeon X850 XT Platinum Edition

Dave kertesz

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iam sure the X800 will play BF2

mine works fine at 1200 X 1600 res.
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5. September 2005 @ 00:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
overall, ati is quality but the nVidia have made the supposable 'bestest and fastest' graphics card so far...
at least that is what it said in a PC Mag...
it is up to personal choice...





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Nvidia all the way. Always had compatability probs with the Catalyst drivers. ATI do make good cards but they are not as good as Nvidia in my opinion. And the 7800 is better than the X850 Platinum anyway. Even the new ATI '7800' beater has less pixel pipelines (16 to the 7800's 24) a bit of a strange decision in a market based on numbers. Sure it runs faster at 500mhz standard clockspeed but any overclocker can easily match that (or nearly) on a 7800. I think ATI has been so tied up with the XB360 that they've had to move their focus away from PC GPU's. Also Nvidia are way more prepared for the 64bit generation and already have the latest graphics and chipset drivers to support Win XP64. That said ATI could still be the card to have next year, it's such a fickle business! But for now I'd go with Nvidia.

My rig: Intel Q9650 3.0Ghz, ATI Radeon 4870 X2 2048Mb, 6Mb DDR2 6400 RAM, Asus Rampage Formula X48 Motherboard.
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dkertesz
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5. September 2005 @ 13:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The X800XL is it a good overclocker would i be able to overclock it to the 6800GT?

If i get the 6800GT Will i be able to overclock it to the 6800 ULTRA?and what type of power supply would i need to do this?
(i will prob be getting XFX or eVGA)

Dave kertesz
 
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