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9. September 2005 @ 17:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Has anyone had problems with x800 cards? I was playing driver (5 yr old game) with everything set to ultra and everything has blue blocks surrounding it. I even changed to lesser settings and no change. Even know I posted in another post I was going to use hacked driver I didnt has of yet. Does anyone have any ideas? Im using the latest catylat drivers.

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10. September 2005 @ 16:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Never mind. this card fricking sucks. Now its jumpy and jerky on another 5 yr old game black and white. Screw it. I knew I should have got nvidia geforce.
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10. September 2005 @ 17:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
check game sites for updates or patches. don't always blame the card as it could be the games problem. if game is 5yrs old than must be designed for win98, me or win2k.
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10. September 2005 @ 18:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My neighbor has the same exact games. Hes running win xp sp2 with a voodoo agp and a amd chip that is slower than I built. His shit is 5 yrs old compared to mine. Its run perfect. But yet on a machine thats faster it dont...tell me what im missing? I think the problem is radeon is a low power card, but yet you buy a geforce it has a power connector...sometimes two.,..to run the card of the psu. But yet radeon dont. So the radeon runs off the pci bus power. I think thats the prob. Plus I have all available patches and latest drivers for the games and card.

The only possibiltie I can find is that I have the pci express in the bios set to too high of a payload, but I tried changing it to no avail. Plus Im running aquamark and getting extremely low scores.
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10. September 2005 @ 18:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here are the results of 3dmark 2oo1 set to high..tell me what you think
*6599 3d marks*

System Configuration
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP

DirectX Version 9.0



Mobo Manufacturer EPoX COMPUTER CO., LTD

Mobo Model nForce4 DDR: 9NPA+ / 9NPA+Ultra / 9NPAJ Series

AGP Rates (Current/Available) N/A / N/A



CPU Unknown 2475 MHz

FSB 225 MHz

Memory 1024 MB



Graphics Chipset ATI RADEON X800 XL

Driver Name RADEON X800 Series

Driver Version 6.14.10.6561

Video Memory 256 MB



Program Version 3DMark2001 SE

Resolution 1024x768 32bit

Texture Format Compressed

FSAA Disabled

Z-Buffer Depth 24bit

Frame Buffer Double

Rendering Pipeline D3D Pure Hardware T&L



Detailed Test Results
3DMark Score 6599 3D marks



Game 1 Car Chase - Low Detail 60.0 fps

Game 1 Car Chase - High Detail 60.0 fps

Game 2 Dragothic - Low Detail 60.0 fps

Game 2 Dragothic - High Detail 60.0 fps

Game 3 Lobby - Low Detail 60.0 fps

Game 3 Lobby - High Detail 60.0 fps

Game 4 Nature 60.0 fps



Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 3019.9 MTexels/s

Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 3015.4 MTexels/s



High Polygon Count (1 light) 63.0 MTriangels/s

High Polygon Count (8 lights) 24.6 MTriangels/s



Environment Bump Mapping 60.0 fps

DOT3 Bump Mapping 60.0 fps



Vertex Shader 60.1 fps

Pixel Shader 60.0 fps

Advanced Pixel Shader 59.9 fps



Point Sprite 30.0 MSprites/s





Activated Pro ORB Features
3DMark05 Pro: No
3DMark03 Pro: No
PCMark05 Pro: No
PCMark04 Pro: No
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FM Approved Drivers
To ensure valid and comparable 3DMark03 and 3DMark05 benchmark results, use only Futuremark approved display drivers.

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10. September 2005 @ 18:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
your computer is probably to fast for the games. i ran into somewhat the same problem when i had a 486-dx2 66mhz. tried this helicopter game & kept crashing into things as the computer was to fast for the game. do you have dx9c installed or just 9.0?

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10. September 2005 @ 21:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just have direct x 9.0 installed. Whats the other one you mentioned? I never heard of it before...I will say one thing. Im glad I didnt install win 64 bit or I really would have major problems.
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11. September 2005 @ 05:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DirectX 9.0c is here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=0A9B6820...

Before you download it, go to Start/Run, and type in dxdiag. When the next screen comes up, it will show your version at the bottom of System Information.

If you have it already, there is no need to download the c version.

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Computer: Intel Core i7-920 Nehalim;Asus P6T Deluxe V2

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11. September 2005 @ 05:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
nope got that too. think it came with the mobo cd or radeon drivers. Its a damn shame im going to have to buy new games just to have it display right.
DMW
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11. September 2005 @ 09:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi, I'm not too sure what is causing your blue blocks unless it's a heat issue, but 1 comment I would like to add is about your 3dmark score.

If it is 3dmark 2001 then it is too low for your card! I got 6000 with a geforce2 GTS which is a much lesser card than the ATI.

Do you have Vsync turned on in your gfx settings?? I notice all of your fps results are around 60fps, is your monitor running refresh rate of 60hz? If so, turn off vsync and try the test again, it should be much higher.

I wouldn't worry about the ATI not having enough power, the X800 series are a good card and shouldn't give you problems.

Do you have any artifacts on newer games or just the old ones?

EDIT: My mate is assuring me my 6000 score was on 3dmark 2000 not 2001 and he's usually right about benchamrks, but yours should be higher than that on 2001 too.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 11. September 2005 @ 14:42

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11. September 2005 @ 22:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ty for the advice. I would try the vsync, but I cant. Catalyst control center is telling me I dont have permission to access it. I tried cleaning out and reinstalling the center to no avail. Guess Im just gonna return the card. Too much hassle.
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3. October 2005 @ 11:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I finally solved the problem. It was radeon. They suck. I got a bfg geforce 6800 gt and now no more blue blocks. gt's driver looks beautiful now. Geforce rocks. Too bad it cost 400.00 for the card, but at least I can play a 5 yr old game flawlessy.

Plus the funny thing is I called ati and they had the nerve to tell me it was the way the game was coded and it wasnt their fault. Yeah...bs alert. geforce rocks. :>
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3. October 2005 @ 11:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Glad your sorted m8.
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