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nba live dirty disc error
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Spiritism
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7. October 2005 @ 01:27 |
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shut up dood i couldnt careless how long you been here for the simple fact that it doesnt really matter in this situation
just be quiet and comment on the topic which is about nba live not playing on the hard drive not nba live not playing on a damn dvd
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Cayotic
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11. October 2005 @ 19:39 |
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Well, I'm glad I found out 5 times on one thread that I can back up this game to a DVD. I think everyone with a special (as opposed to modded, I'm using my ebay friendly anti piracy lingo) xbox knows that you can play burnt disks. This mean that as long as there is sufficient storage on the media, and the media is compatible with the DVD drive, then you can play whatever you damn well want off of a DVD. It?s the exact same thing as the data on the Xbox media so why wouldn?t it work? I guess it could be worse and EA could have created a dummy file that would have put us over the typical 4.7 storage limitation as well as creating a file that exceeds FATX filename limitation.
So from here on out the debate isn?t about isn?t about DVD media. We need to determine if it?s truly a FATX filename limitation or not. As charbs said, there isn?t a filename longer than about 10 characters or so. But has anyone checked the actual media? From what I can tell I have the exact same file structure on the media as I do on the HDD of my PC and Xbox. Which would lead me to believe a default.xbe patch is in order. I attempted to use QUIX101 and it claims to have patched it successfully but I can testify to otherwise.
The fact that Charbs deleted all files except the default.xbe doesn?t prove the FATX filename limitation theory either. Because see, if it didn?t copy successfully in the first place and you go and delete the remaining files then of course the default.xbe is going to kick a DDE. It isn?t going to find the file its looking for now like it couldn?t find the file it was looking for before.
I copied the contents of the DVD to the PC to verify that the size, and folder structure was the same as that which was backedup using PX hddloader. And it was, next I again used QUIX to patch the default.xbe from the game disk instead of the default that was patched already by px hddloader. And again, no luck. I only like live for the dunk contest, otherwise I would work harder at finding a cure. As it stands, 2k6 is better overall anyways. And have you seen the xbox360 screenshots and video for NBA 2k6. The players couldn?t appear any more real.
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mjeff36
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11. October 2005 @ 20:49 |
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Well i don't understand why the xbox version is causing so much problems, i have both versions and i put the ps2 version on hdd and works perfect, no problems whatsoever, i figure if ea put in a protection for the xbox they would have done the same thing for the ps2 version. i agree it's probably something to do with the default file, i loaded last year's nba live for xbox to the hdd, no problems either. Man this is getting frustrating, i like the graphics for xbox that's why i hope somebody will crack this, where's that guy who cracked the hulk destruction game? i wonder if he can help us out.
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Cayotic
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21. October 2005 @ 18:05 |
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http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=445625&st=0
Here's a fix for all games not effected by long filenames. Create an iso and use attach.xbe renamed to default.xbe to launch the iso of the game.
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NBA Live 06 working on HD CONFIRMED WITH THIS METHOD
get attach.xbe from XBINS -path is /XBOX/apps/filemanagers/driveimageutils/
edit the Game title of attach.xbe to nbalive06 use c-xbox tool or any other xbe title renamer. if you dont edit, the title of the game it will be ATTACHER VIRTUAL DISC.
Once that is done rename the attach.xbe to default.xbe
------>FTP THE FULL nbalive06.ISO<--- and the default.xbe(renamed from attach.xbe) to the same folder.
--->only two files should be in the NBA live 06 folder:
nbalive06.iso and default.xbe
restart xbox
And it should work
This method is confirmed by me!
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21. October 2005 @ 18:41 |
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The above fix that Cayotic has given is a fix for "softmodded xboxs with nkpatcher 10(krazyies installer)"
It does not work for all softmods. I have my Xbox softmodded with Auto installer Deluxe and it does not work. So if you have a softmodded xbox with nkpatcher 10(krazyies installer) It should work.
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stealo
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22. October 2005 @ 04:07 |
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Dont know if this helps anyone it was about GTA San Andreas.
This happened to me with LIVE 06 when FTP'd to my box, two default.xbe files, haven't tried it yet, sick of trying to get the game to work off HDD.
"haha, i can't believe how easy a fix this was... i was coming at it from an angle where i assumed that it would be a real pain in the ass to fix, but when i copied it to my HD i noticed something when i FTP'd into my box... two files in the game directory made me wonder..
default.xbe
default.xbe_original
i deleted the first default.xbe file because obviously since the game kept locking up and wouldnt load (instead returning me to my opening EvoX screen), i then renamed the second file from default.xbe_original to default.xbe and as simple as that, the game works flawlessly... hopefully by some wierd occurance this might help somebody else out..."
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evocre8r
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23. October 2005 @ 11:02 |
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Anyone try this yet? I wonder if it works?
Strike him down...and if he gets up, strike him again! Get outta here.
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tEChniiQue
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23. October 2005 @ 11:09 |
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default.xbe
default.xbe_original
@evocre8r
I was gonna try it but my version of LIVE doesn't have two .xbe file...just the default.xbe.
@Cayotic
I did try your method but it didn't work. I changed the file name in x-box tool, changed the...well, everything you said and when I transfered the .iso, and the .xbe to the NBA Live folder it said: ATTACHER VIRTUAL DISC in the game listing. I know why you said it would say that...even read it on xbox-scene where I think it originated from but I did change the file.
What do you think I'm missing here??
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23. October 2005 @ 20:57 |
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@tEChniiQue
You need to edit the Game title of attach.xbe to nbalive06 c-xbox tool which this renames the title internely as nbalive06.
Now after you did that then right click on the attach.xbe and choose rename and then change it from attach.xbe to default.xbe
then put in the ISO and the default renamed xbe in a folder and FTP to your Xbox.
Again this will only work for "softmodded xboxs with nkpatcher 10(krazyies installer)"
this wont work for all softmodded Xbox's. What it is doing is tricking the Xbox into thinking that the NBALive game is playing on a DVD-ROM it is sorta installing a virtual drive. But not all softmods can support this method.
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tEChniiQue
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24. October 2005 @ 00:09 |
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@larrylje
Thanks man, shows how much I paid attention. Feel like an @$$ now. I was trying to do it on my box that is modded with X3 CE. But at least I did it right, lol. Thanks again.
Well if anybody gets a fix for a chipped xbox...please POST.
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24. October 2005 @ 02:54 |
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Not too sure,but from what I heard,that softmod fix might not work with older softmods....so if it doesn't work for some people,you have been warned.
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Cayotic
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24. October 2005 @ 09:19 |
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If you don't want to play the game on a DVDr, as most dont, because we just want carry our box around with all the games, then those that are softmodded, I suggest you upgrade/change your software to UXE. For those chipping just to use live, break down and buy a second xbox. There so inexpensive and the price will drop more when the 360 comes out.
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24. October 2005 @ 16:35 |
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@Cayotic
took your advice and uninstaled my old Softmod and replaced it with nkpatcher 10(krazyies installer and NBA Live took right off on the hard drive. It was about time I did this anyway.
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scotts424
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25. October 2005 @ 22:30 |
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Since it looks like there is no patch coming out for this game I am starting to look into the other solution being offered. I currently have xecuter2 with avalaunch dashboard installed. First of all is this considered a softmod and second of all do I meet the requirements to use the iso method? If I decide to convert to the nkpatcher 10, would it require erasing all of the contents of my hd? Lastly, how would I go about installing nkpatcher 10 if I decided to go that way?
Thanks
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25. October 2005 @ 22:50 |
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@Scotts424
I dont know about softmodding an Xbox with a softmod if you have a hardmod installed.
But I had an older softmod installed already with a 300gig hard drive and tons of stuff on it and was worried about lossing everything. But I found a link that said you wouldnt loss anything. I wanted to install the nkpatcher 10(krazyies installersoftmod) so I could play NBA Live 06 and other games that seem to be having trouble ripping to hard drive.
So I reverted my Xbox back to the MS Dashboard and then deleted my old softmod game save Exploit with the MS Dashboard. Then brought in the new game exploit into the game saves and ran the new softmod and worked perfect. Didnt loss anything. I had to change some stuff around like Emulators and Skins but wasnt that hard.
Below is a link to the nkpatcher 10(krazyies installer) I installed and it has a guide that helps you do it. He also has the game exploit saves linked to the site.
http://www.freewebs.com/betatester/profile2.htm
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 25. October 2005 @ 22:56
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softmoder
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26. October 2005 @ 02:32 |
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The dirty disk error can be caused if you have a file missing, for instance if you copy halo 2 to your Computer(FTP) then transfer it back to the xbox's HDD with say new_mombassa(A).map missing then when you try to load this level from the HDD it will say that your disk is dirty and cannot be read. Check if any files are missing.
:-) Hope it helps!
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26. October 2005 @ 08:35 |
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@softmoder
The reason your get a Dirty disc error is cause when you rip the game to your hard drive it will rename long file names which FATX cant support to shorter filenames.
So when the game wants to go to that file it cant because its searching for the original long file name which was renamed to a shorter one.
The reason the above patch works with the NKPatcher10 is cause it is loading the game up on a virtual drive. Its tricking the Xbox into thinking the game is playing from a DVD-ROM drive. Which will then run the game off the ISO image with all file names correct and not changed.
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Charbs
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26. October 2005 @ 08:43 |
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but theres no long filenames in the nba live folder...none, and they werent renamed to shorter files cuz if you burn the nba live folder to dvdr it plays fine. And the burning software isnt gonna rename those files to the long version when it burns it so it has nothing to do with long filenames and everything to do with the default.xbe that has to be patched cuz it has some sort of new flag. Hex editing will prolly be the only way.
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Cayotic
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27. October 2005 @ 14:23 |
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I tested your theory by creating an iso of Enter The Matrix, one of, if not THE first game known for having a file with a 42+ character filename. Unfortunately, the game will not transfer properly to the Xbox. When using FlashFXP the iso will complete but only shows a 4.1 gb file on the xbox instead of the 4.9 gb stored on my xbox.
So I tried to transfer the iso from the pc to the Xbox using XBMC file manager. This method doesn't even transfer the partial file as witnessed before.
The only thing I can think of is that even though its in iso format, it contains the original long filename file. Kinda like a zip format. I would bet we would get the same results if we zipped up the long filenamed file and attempted to transfer it.
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Charbs
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27. October 2005 @ 15:27 |
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ok well if anyone knows of a program that can rip xbox games to a pc from the original then try it and see if the long filename exists...but i dont think i will...cuz i have an nba live folder on my pc that i burn to dvdr and it works on my xbox, SO..theres no way that my burning software RENAMES that file to the original long filename when its burning..its impossible...im telin you..the only fix is to HEX Edit the default.xbe...GUARANTEED
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chrono09
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27. October 2005 @ 16:16 |
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Is anyone going to try to edit this Hex if it is the case? Some people like me are picky and don't want to go through the trouble of re-installing a diffrent softmod for one single game. My issue is that I don't have a DVD Drive/Burner yet so I have to play games off the hard drive. I understand that games are diffrent but if EA Sports was gonna flag a game wouldnt they have done it to thier most popular title? Like Madden, cuz flagging a game that is way below they selling capablities that Madden has is kinda retarded. But, then again it is EA Sports.
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27. October 2005 @ 16:29 |
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@Charbs How did you transfer the files to your computer? FTP from the DVD-ROM drive off your Xbox? Most do it that way and if you did it that way it woudlnt change the long filename cause your Computer hard drive can handle it.
If you rip the game from your Xbox DVD-ROM to your Xbox hard drive and then FTP the game folder over to your computer and make an xISO it wont work.
Iv seen numrious people have problems getting the DVD backup of the game working getting the dirty disc error. Which the problem was that they where ripping the game to the Xbox hard drive then FTP the folder over and making the xISO. Once they where told to FTP to there Xbox and rip the game directly from the Xbox DVD-ROM to there computer hard drive and make the xISo it would work for them.
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chrono09
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27. October 2005 @ 16:35 |
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Ok, I'm still a n00b at this type of stuff so If what I say sounds retarded to give me too much of a hard time...But.
If I'm assuming correctly a default.xbe works the same way as a .ini file right? Why not just find the file causing the problem and edit the .xbe to look for what it's called, not what the long filename is. Or is that what you guys mean by patching?
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27. October 2005 @ 16:42 |
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I opened up a hex editor and looked at the new .XBE file and the orignal .XBE file that dvd2Xbox created and compared them and it found 1 part of it diffrent. But I have no idea how to go about fixing the diffrence.
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chrono09
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27. October 2005 @ 16:48 |
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Ok, I Did A Little Reasearch. The possible explanation of the FATX charcter thing would have to be false according to Xbox-Solution for the simple fact is that someone stated they checked ever file and that they were all there.
Explanation:
"The file has a long filename and cannot be written to the HDD's Fat-X file system which will only accept 42 character long file names."
If it can't be written then I'm assuming it would have to be the same problem as The Hulk or 007: Everything or Nothing. It must either be some sort of ACL fault or someone is just gonna have to edit the HEX.
^Guess that may be thrown out the window.
If your in a HEX Editor it should let you edit it right? Are you talking about the .xbe straight from the disc or a non Craxtion patched one? The best thing I could say is to figure out how to edit the HEX and copy the HEX from the discs' .xbe (from DVD2Xbox or from FTP) and replace everything from the backed up .xbe
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