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How do skip blanked cells following a movie usingVOBBlanker/PGCedit...
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-Marlin-
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14. October 2005 @ 07:33 |
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Ok I know how to skip the cells BEFORE the main movie that I blanked using VOBBlanker with PGCedit, but how do I get rid of or skip the blanked cells that were AFTER the movie, so that it doesn't just keep on playing empty black screen cells?
Can I use PGCedit for this as well?
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travalon
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15. November 2005 @ 17:00 |
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I've been using VOB blanker for a while now. I started with pgc edit but tossed it and only use VOB blanker and shrink. I didn't use any guides just sort of fumbled through it and this is what I came up with.
My goal was just the main movie and original menues
Found the main movie in VOB edit and left it alone
took the first line which is VIDEO_TS VOB clicked menu opened it up to its pgc's. Some say KEEP at the end under "action". double click these to get to the cells. then preview them to see if you want them. Usually they're the FBI warning and disclaimer. But some times they are part of a required menu. If you don't want whats there just hit the blank all button then apply. Do this for each pgc. move on to each VTS doing the same thing keeping an eye on your target size. Be sure not to mess with the main movie unless you have to. If you just blank VTS's from the splash screen you wont be able to run it through shrink so you have to blank the cells. When everything is said and done, when you select a specific VTS from the title set box in the splash screen all the corrisponding PGC's below should say CELLS under the action column. (EXCEPT the main movie).
the main movie can be shortened by:
1 select the VTS for it
2 Select it from the list of PGC's (Usually the first one) you'll know it by it's duration.
3 click preview/cut
4 in the pop up screen top left hand corner in the go to box use the drop down to go to cell 1 and then use the slider to pick your start frame.directly to the right it says initial mark. click the mark button to lock it in. as well as the [ button at the bottom right of the preview screen
5 back in the go to box use the drop down to get to the 2nd to last cell. A preview will appear on the screen. If it's the credits, go to the 3rd to last cell and so on untill you find the end of the movie. use the slider to select the end frame. then go to your right again and this time click the mark button in the end mark box. as well as the ] button @ the bottom right.
6 if you are satisfied with your selection click ok. watch the size shrink before your very eyes as you click ok. It's AMAZZZING.
I have managed to get a full resolution movie down to 3.5 GB and not have to run it through shrink using this method.
good luck.
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yromashin
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25. November 2005 @ 14:30 |
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Hello Travalon,
I have not played with VOB Blanker for as long as you have. Having read your guide, I have just alalyzed a few VOBs in general (play option) and their cells (play option). It looks to me that if a VOB does not have a movie part, there should be something else, repalted, say, to the sound or video adjustment. To make it short, I believe one does not have to go into Cells, but can easily and safely blank out the entire VOB. Correct me if I am wrong.
Roma
WinXP Pro, AMD Athlon XP 2500+, 1 GB DDR, 120 GB HD - main, 160 GB HD ? second, LG CD-RW GCE-8481B, Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-108
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yromashin
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25. November 2005 @ 14:44 |
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Hello again, Travalon,
I have read all the forums on VOBBlanker. Not too much info on it. As I said, I have not played with it long enough yet. I wonder, if it true, that VOBBlanker LEAVES empty space on the final DVD, as Marlin has noticed? I have tried it on Pirates. I successfully deleted commertials, THT sound stuff which were at the beginning. Used Shrink and burned it with Nero, watched it for a while. Looked good, no blank spots. What do you know/noticed?
Roma
By the way, how to change my nick name to the correct one?
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travalon
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27. November 2005 @ 12:08 |
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yromashin,
I have tried blanking out an entire VOB with the results being shrink wouldn't accept the new vts folder. The only way I could get shrink to accept the new vts folder was to blank the cells as opposed to the entire VOB. I think it has somthing to do with a VOB id that needs to match the ifo file. By doing this I believe you trick the soft ware running the movie into believing the entire movie and xtras are there. as far as the blank cells just running, I have witnessed that only once during the beginning of my vobblanker endevors. Since I started using the method above, I have had no running cells that I've noticed. However, if you click on a link to an xtra you have deleted, depending on how you went about the deletion, some times the player will get caught in a loop and needs to be restarted. Other times it will follow the link, run through its duration (which you have shortened to next to nothing) and return to the xtras menu (if you left it intact). I am still working on this part so if you learn anything please let me know.
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sytyguy
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27. November 2005 @ 14:42 |
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travalon,
That was a VERY excellent guide you just wrote, I am going to start experimenting with it.
Thank you very much,
Rich
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yromashin
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28. November 2005 @ 05:23 |
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Hello Travalon,
I believe the whole VOB can be blanked out. In this case, they all are there, but their size is close to nothing. First time I did it, I had no problem with Shrink. I will check it again tonight. Sometimes Shrink should be re-installed. It has happened to me 2 times.
Roma
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travalon
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28. November 2005 @ 23:26 |
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You may be right yromashin. I haven't tried to blank an entire VOB since I came up with this method. I'll give it a shot again once my computer is up and running again.
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yromashin
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29. November 2005 @ 05:44 |
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Hello Travalon,
Yesterday I used Shrink and burned the movie with DVD Decryptor for the quick look. I had no problem with Shrink. Sorry, I did not have time to have a good look at the burned movie, only a few minutes on my PC. It looked good though.
Roma
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yromashin
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29. November 2005 @ 05:49 |
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Hello Travalon,
I have had two (2) problems with Shrink. For example, last time it worked great with everything except Nero. I would advise you to look at re-installing Shrink as a possible problem. Last time I uninstalled it, rebooted PC, installed it back, rebooted PC. After that Shrink worked great, the way it had used to be.
Roma
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sytyguy
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4. December 2005 @ 12:47 |
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yromashin & travalon,
Next time one of you guys run VobBlanker could you post the name of the movie, and how many bytes you saved. I think I have a handle on VB, but I just want to make sure.
TIA,
Rich
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yromashin
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4. December 2005 @ 18:08 |
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Hello sytyguy,
I used it for Mummy Returns 4:3. This time I finished everything. Went very well. I saved about 1.9 Gbt. I do not remember exact numbers but I started with approximately 7.6 and finished with 5.7 Gbt. As I suggested before, whole VOB can be blanked. One does not have to go into Cells, if VOB contains stuff one does not need. Extra caution should be used when blanking cells. DO NOT blank Cells containing buttons commands. In this case I had a problem with Shrink and Nero, for they did not like the change. When I went back to that VOB and kept Cells with buttons, deleted only other stuff, then I had no problem with Shrink. I want to have a very good look at the final movie, but a brief check showed no problem.
I also found some differences with my version of the VOB Blanker and the one given in the guide. I did not follow the guide exactly, but it needs some more checking. I will be using Blanker later and will let you know on the outcome.
Roma
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yromashin
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4. December 2005 @ 18:15 |
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Hello Rich,
Have you seen the guide on the Blanker?
http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/guides/VobBlanker/blanking/index.php
Do you have your own guide written down? If "yes" would be nice to see it. As I mentioned before, I found some differences with the Blanker I downloaded a few weeks ago. Well, your opinion and a few advices on Blanker would be greatly appreciated.
Roma
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sytyguy
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5. December 2005 @ 02:11 |
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yromashin,
Thanks for the info. I also have blanked an entire VOB with no problems. And yes, I saw the guide on their website, and no I do not have my own guide, although I did cut&pasted "travalon" brief and informative guide. I also learned how to strip audio from the VOB's, hoping I would not have to use Shrink, but I did anyway on "War of the Worlds". I could only save about 600MB on that movie. However, it sure was nice to remove extra crap, including the FBI warning, and yes, I kept all the buttons. I also used the prev/cut to get right to the movie, eliminating a great deal of the junk prior to the actual movie.
Let's keep sharing, when we learn new things about VOBBlanker.
Thanks again,
Rich
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yromashin
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5. December 2005 @ 15:15 |
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Hello Rich,
Interesting if you follow an advise given in the VOBBlanker and the guides to save a new Version on another HD. I have tried both ways but am not sure if there is any difference. I also would like to know how to create VIDEO_TS folder using Blanker rather than creating it manually. Have not found the way yet.
Roma
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sytyguy
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5. December 2005 @ 18:15 |
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Roma,
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Interesting if you follow an advise given in the VOBBlanker and the guides to save a new Version on another HD. I have tried both ways but am not sure if there is any difference.
Not sure what you mean by that, I select "output folder", which writes all the changes you've made to another folder without making any changes to your input folder, when you select "Process". Which means if you screw up you can just delete the output folder's files and try again.
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I also would like to know how to create VIDEO_TS folder using Blanker rather than creating it manually. Have not found the way yet.
Same thing, when you select an "Output folder" it will create an exact image of all the files you have changed including the "VIDEO_TS" folder.
So perhaps I am misunderstanding what you are saying, and if so let me know.
Thanks,
Rich
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yromashin
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6. December 2005 @ 06:33 |
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Hello Rich,
If you read the Help document in the Blanker and other guides, they all advise to save new version on ANOTHER HD (am I understanding it wrong?). I do not know why. I do know that Blanker does not screw the original folder.
As for the second part, I will check it out.
Thanks.
Roma
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sytyguy
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6. December 2005 @ 06:42 |
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Roma,
The only advantage of placing your output files on another HDD, is speed, however, VOBB is so fast I don't see that as much of an advantage. I actually do have another HDD, but I only use it when I run DVD-Rebuilder, and it does help in speeding the process.
Later,
Rich
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yromashin
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7. December 2005 @ 10:20 |
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Hello Rich,
Interesting point, though I am not sure if communication between two physical devices is faster than communication between two folders.
DVDRebuilder is my next project. I have heard a lot about it. If I have questions, I know whom to ask. Thanks.
Roma
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sytyguy
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8. December 2005 @ 15:13 |
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Hi Roma,
I used VOBB to edit Star Wars III, and only saved 266MB after I finished.....not very good. If you back this movie up, let me know how much YOU save. I'm starting to think of buying DvdReMake Pro which seems to do an easier job than VOBB, and does somethings automatically, that have to be manually done with VOBB.
Take a look at it here, http://www.dimadsoft.com/dvdremakepro/new_features_v3.php
It doesn't look like they have a trial period with DvdReMake, bummer?
Later,
Rich
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yromashin
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8. December 2005 @ 15:33 |
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Hello Rich,
I have heard a lot about this program. I have never tried it. Let me know if you buy it and are happy. I will try Star Wars 3 when I have time. Christmas? Using VOB Blanker I blank everything extra, like commercials, any copyright protections warnings, etc. I do not remember too much of this kind of stuff in Star Wars, but I will have a look.
The most annoying part of using Blanker is that every time one has to save it and watch a new version, then blank other pieces, save and watch again. It took me 3 versions to find out where all pieces were hidden. Certainly, not fast process. But movie producers are creative to mess things up and make it difficult to clean all the extras in one easy move. The fastest way is DVD Shrink, re-auther, but it does not save Menu.
Best wishes,
Roma
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sytyguy
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9. December 2005 @ 04:12 |
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Roma,
I go through a movie one time, editing blanking & stripping everything that I can, and then I processs it. When done I play it with PowerDvd at 32X speed to see if all is ok, then I Shrink it, and burn it to DVD. All in all it takes me about 15-20 minutes to do all of that with VOBB. Not terribly bad, but a very manual process, and one does have to watch what they are doing, otherwise results could be bad.
HTH,
Rich
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sytyguy
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10. December 2005 @ 06:37 |
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Roma,
Processed "Heights" with VOBB, and saved about 300MB's. I left all the Previews, but just took out the ads and other crap.
Later,
Rich
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yromashin
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10. December 2005 @ 16:07 |
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Hello Rich,
I have processed Return of Jedi. From 7.84 went down to 7.76. Not much, for the movie does not have too much of crap. Though it was not easy to get rid of Copyright warning. It looked like a part of a larger file.
I have tried to check another option to save the final movie in VIDEO_TS forder, as you advised. Sorry, but my Blanker does not give me this option. It opens IFO file only. Well, at least I know that I have to create VIDEO_TS folder.
There are two (2) angles in the Jedi. The Blanker gave me a warning about it, but I changed Skip to Process and it worked fine.
What is annoying that Blanker leaved 1 sec each time when blanks VOB. In Pirated I have got 40 sec. delay before the movie starts. Is there a way around it?
Regards,
Roma
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sytyguy
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10. December 2005 @ 18:46 |
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Roma,
How do you rip to the HDD, if you use Decrypter, then you need to select Mode--> file and then select the Destination folder(create one if you do not have one), and that will place it in a folder with "VIDEO_TS"?? It is then very easy to edit/manipulate each VTS folder in VOBB.
HTH,
Rich
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