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skyecom
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15. October 2005 @ 10:44 |
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Having successfully used DVD+R for some time now, I recently bought a spindle of Datawrite Titanium DVD-r's. So far, I have had 10 coasters! I am using DVD shrink and Clone DVD, but the writing process fails at about the same point each time. I have tried the discs on a friends machine and they work fine. My writer is a Lite-On DVDrw SOHW 16735 rev JS01. I have just tried copying another disc using Nero 6 and it has failed as well. Can anyone help me out please?
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15. October 2005 @ 11:22 |
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hi, i can indeed help out here. let's have LAST section of your Nero log which lives in c:\program files\ahead\nero\nerohistory.log but DO NOT post your serial number which usually begins with '1A21' or similar.
You can differentiate sections via this section divider "====== *** Nero-Burning Rom, History File *** ======"
ps your firmware is quite a few versions out of date, JS0C is here - http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=2026
just did a quick search as to which disc manufacturers Datawrite use for their Titanium discs - hmmm, if it's 8x -R discs you're using, the disc manufacturer could well be CMC Magnetics - if so, oh dear!.
edit re the 8x -R discs - just checked some more and (oh dear) these come in 3 differing quality in disc manufacturers - CMC MAG or MCC02RG20 or TTG02 - in my opinion the only decent ones there are the MCC ones. The problem is i bet there's no way to tell which ones are which, simply from looking at the packaging ie one day you might buy a tub of these and get MCC-manufactured disc (top stuff) and another day you might pick up an identical tub and they'd be CMC-manufactured (atrocious).
if they're 16x -R discs the quality could well be a mixed bag depending on if you have MCC03RG20 discs (top discs) or TTH02 discs (hmmm i don't believe they're much good at all, certainly no comparison to MCC discs)
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15. October 2005 @ 11:41 |
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15. October 2005 @ 11:48 |
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hi gurnard, i did stumble across that link of yours again when i was searching for my reply. seeing your reply above i realised i didn't mention that i was talking about only -R discs in my reply... editing shortly...
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15. October 2005 @ 14:25 |
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Hi Creaky,
Just got your reply.
I have tried upgrading the Lite-On firmware but no success as yet.
I decided to reinstall Nero an hour ago and have just uninstalled it so I cannot send the log file at present.
Once it is reinstalled I will try to write a DVD-R again and then send the log file. It is looking lokely that it is a really poor batch of discs, but Earlier this evening, I also tried a BenQ disc- with the same results
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15. October 2005 @ 14:36 |
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cool.
ps, a way to just verify the MID (media id code) of a disc is to download dvd identifier (free) - http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_tools/dvd_id... and use it to 'identify' one of those discs, pasting the results here. this doesn't guard against having fake discs though, ie those codes are easily faked, though there are other ways to prove that anyway. (just mentioning that as this way of checking disc codes isn't 100% foolproof)
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Hi,
HAve just invested in Nero reloaded but to no avail. Still cannot write to DVD-R discs or even read them. Below is the log for my last writing attempt. hope you can help out.
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IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.70, size=45568 bytes, created 24/06/2005 11:16:54
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 26/10/2004 17:35:32
Nero Version: 6.6.0.8 (Nero Express)
Recorder: <LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S>Version: JS0C - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.8
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: <MITSUMI CR-4804TE >Version: 2.6C - HA 0 TA 1 - 6.6.0.8
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST320423A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : MITSUMI CR-4804TE atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD1200JB-00GVA0 atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
MITSUMI CR-4804TE F: CDRom0
LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S E: CDRom1
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AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 49283072 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 319MB (327152kB)
Free physical memory: 96MB (98944kB)
Memory in use : 69 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
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ISO compilation
15:18:13 #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6179
Iso document burn settings
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Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : FALSE
Multisession : TRUE
Multisession type: : Start multisession
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE
15:18:13 #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running
15:18:13 #3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S running
15:18:13 #4 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3293
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
15:18:14 #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3153
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
15:18:14 #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 260
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2263215 (502:56.15, 4420MB)
15:18:14 #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 272
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)
15:18:14 #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2339
Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: TTG02 -
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193
15:18:14 #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 438
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
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15:18:14 #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 830
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2263216 (2263216) = #2263216/502:56.16
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2263216 blocks [LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S]
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15:18:23 #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1043
Prepare recorder [LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
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MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4635066368, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
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__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2263216 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
15:18:24 #12 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files started
15:18:25 #13 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4040
Cache writing successful.
15:18:25 #14 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files completed
15:18:25 #15 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process started at 8x (11,080 KB/s)
15:18:25 #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2609
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
15:18:25 #17 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2216
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode
15:18:25 #18 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21261
Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON , SMART-BURN : ON
15:18:25 #19 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2362
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
15:18:25 #20 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8430
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
15:19:44 #21 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1287
15:19:44.276 - LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S\H1 T0 : Queue again later
15:20:11 #22 SCSI -1135 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1435
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x03906400
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x0C
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0x5C 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x71 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C 0x00
15:20:12 #23 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1287
15:20:12.126 - LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S\H1 T0 : Queue again later
15:20:14 #24 SCSI -1023 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1435
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x032E0000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x2C
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x2C 0x00
15:20:14 #25 CDR -1135 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
Write error
LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S\H1 T0
15:20:14 #26 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion
15:20:14 #27 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
conversion idle, stopping reader
15:20:14 #28 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2625
EndDAO: Last written address was 31
15:20:14 #29 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process failed at 8x (11,080 KB/s)
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS': Ver=6.0.0.171 , size=24839 bytes, created 13/01/2003 10:19:26
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.70, size=17101 bytes, created 24/06/2005 11:16:54
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.62a, size=20016 bytes, created 28/10/2003 10:02:00 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 03/08/2004 22:59:44 (Adapter driver for rec)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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17. October 2005 @ 06:58 |
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I have upgraded my firmware as well
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17. October 2005 @ 07:07 |
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Nero Version: 6.6.0.8 (Nero Express)
- not too bad, latest 6.x version is 6.6.0.16
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Physical memory : 319MB (327152kB)
Free physical memory: 96MB (98944kB)
Memory in use : 69 %
- sharp intake of breath similar to how a mechanic would do, you gotta free up more memory prior to all dvd work
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Finalize CD : FALSE
Multisession : TRUE
Multisession type: : Start multisession
- just checking, did you mean to do multisession ?
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Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2263215 (502:56.15, 4420MB)
- 4420MB is too close to outer edge of discs; set target size in DVD Shrink to 4300MB, thus avoiding outer edge of discs and not sacrificing much space
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Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: TTG02 -
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193
- hmmm, i don't rate those personally, but haven't used them/won't use them, i'm going by some of my buddies' experiences with them
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Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Write error
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Burn process failed at 8x (11,080 KB/s)
- most people recommend 4x max for movies
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File 'Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS': Ver=6.0.0.171 , size=24839 bytes, created 13/01/2003 10:19:26
- uninstall Roxio, it interferes with Nero. To fully eradicate Roxio you may have to google search for 'Roxio Zapper'..
do all that, try a simulation burn and post the log entry. off home now, maybe hear from you then..
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17. October 2005 @ 09:16 |
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Hi Creaky,
Thanks for that. I will do as you suggest. I did download a patch from Roxio to avoid the Nero/Roxio conflict but maybe that is the problem. I am off to work in 30 mins so I might not be able to do anything until tomorrow, but once done, I will post the results.
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17. October 2005 @ 09:41 |
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no worries, i'll still be here :)
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17. October 2005 @ 10:22 |
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Try Burning at lower speeds may be 1X or 2X, On my Old DVD burners I had exact same problems if I used non branded DVDs, but burning at lower speeds did work, although it took more time.
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18. October 2005 @ 04:54 |
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@creaky:
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no worries, i'll still be here :)
when are you NOT here???!!!hahahahaha
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18. October 2005 @ 05:32 |
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TTG02, I've been seeing that MID code showing up quite a bit. Usually on the TDK dash 8x media.A lot of issues with them.I also have not tried that MID code.
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Having successfully used DVD+R for some time now
Why the sudden change to the dash format?
Here's the roxizapper link:
http://www.microadvantage.net/downloads/zapper60.zip
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18. October 2005 @ 06:50 |
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@ saugmon hi :)
yes your right they are TDK -R/-RW
not rated well here on AD from what i've seen
although digitalFaq rate them as 1st class, and a lot of our members seem to rate their info as sacred (which i do not by the way)
@ creaky :) yes the burn speed is a tad high
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18. October 2005 @ 06:56 |
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change to dash format was forced on me. I live on the ISle of Skye and we only have a small supplier whose latest batch of dvd's was the - format. As I hadn't tried them before, I thought I would have a go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - bad mistake.
Will post the new log file tomorrow after I have tried the suggestions.
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19. October 2005 @ 05:54 |
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SUCCESS!!!!!
Thanks a million Creaky. I removed Easy CD Creator and used the Roxio Zapper. Immediately, the drive read and wrote DVD_R and DVD+R with no problems. I would never have realised that the problem was caused by a conflict between Roxio and Nero.
Do you know if there is any sort of patch available to overcome this conflict?
Thanks once again. I now know where to come for really excellent advice.
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To all who replied with advice.
Thanks a millioin.
The one thing I have learned from this is that "Special Offers" are not always the bargain you think they are.
In future, I will be only buying decent branded media.
Anyone got any suggestions as to the most reliable brand of DVD's?
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glad you're sorted. See my sig for decent media. As to the roxio thing, I've read the odd post where newer versions of roxio are supposed to co-exist better than it used to, but I usually think 'why chance it'.
Have fun
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19. October 2005 @ 06:27 |
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as per the TTG02 discs, TDK's own manufactured discs, i HATE THEM with a passion~ :)
from saugmon:
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TTG02, I've been seeing that MID code showing up quite a bit. Usually on the TDK dash 8x media.A lot of issues with them.I also have not tried that MID code.
UNFORTUNATELY FOR ME, i HAVE tried them and i would take the Memorex ANYDAY over them, that's how bad they were for me...
can i safely assume that when you guys (creaky & gurnard) reply on threads with TDKs own manufactured media that you go based on MY opinion of them? LOL if so, then i sincerely VALUE and take that as a compliment of the highest nature~ :) THANK YOU for going by MY opinion of TDK's *cough* crappiness~ LOL
sorry, didn't mean to add a pointless post, but, wanted to thank my buddies above if they did mean ME in regards to TDK media~ :)
good to see you got things resolved skyecom, roxio and Nero DO NOT PLAY well together, guess you had to figure it out the HARD way~ happy burning now that the boys above have sorted the issue~ :)
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
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i'm just off home so i'll be quick... yup, kivory666, your comments re TTG02 are indeed heeded by me, along with any other guys round here that don't like them. What media i don't/won't use is only commented on by me if i can rely on some trustworthy experiences :)
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19. October 2005 @ 14:33 |
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Anyone got any suggestions as to the most reliable brand of DVD's?
Depends on which format you favor.Looking at those tdks,the dash format has some better manufacturers than their plus format.But seeing all the problems with TTg02,best to avoid TDK.Yours may have been fakes!
I booktype my backups to dvd-rom using the plus format.Your lite-on should also be able to booktype the plus format if you ever need it.
I buy whatever the good quality media that is on sale like.Sony and fuji Taiyo yudens on my last 2 batches.Look for made in japan on their wrappers.Maxell also a very good brand name in the plus format,especially the 8x speed. Lots of Hitachi's in those made in japan spindles of maxell!!!!
Ritek-r03 another good media,and can't forget about verbatim data life plus and genuine taiyo yuden.
Dash format, The sony and Maxells:Made in japan are also very good. Verbatim and taiyo yuden also some of the best.Riteks also up there.
Sounds like you are limited for what you can get for dvd media. The quality media will save you many headaches.Not only trying to get them to burn,then you have the standalone player factor.Some of them can pick out the quality differences in your media with a poor playback.
Something I just noticed:
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but the writing process fails at about the same point each time
What area are the burns failing: Beginning during the lead-in/middle/or toward the end of the backup?
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19. October 2005 @ 23:08 |
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being a logfile freak i see quite a bit of TTG02 codes but go by your lot's experience with them. for instance i take great notice of saugmon's endless media posts too (and i'm always tuned in for info on staples/office depot sales - i just love reading about media lol) :)
I only buy media online so i bulk buy Verbs like they're going out of fashion; just bought 250 Verb TY's this week but it's been a long week so i'm, gonna treat myself to more - it's not fair on Verbs to have them sat on some cold pallet in a warehouse when they could be on the cold (colder) floor of my boat. i'm happy to be more blinkered with media than most as i always use you guys' experience with other media and of course i have 1000s of afterdawn members' logfiles to go by as to what not to waste money on!. now where's that webpage for those Verb TY's....gotta order another LG 4167B anyhow..
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