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Best burning speed
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plasmannc
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24. February 2003 @ 04:42 |
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With CD burners operating upto 52X I would like to know what is the best burning speed for a SVCD disk? I do know in general the slower the better but would like to know what is the fastest speed I should use. 1X, 2X, 4X, 10X, etc.
What generally will happen if the burn is to fast?
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24. February 2003 @ 04:47 |
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1x-4x are acceptable and I have got away with 8x before. But just to be safe i like to burn at 1x.
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CRAZYmack
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24. February 2003 @ 05:49 |
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I would liek to burn at 1x but it doesn't give me that option in nero, only 4x, any ideas on how to get outta that?
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Ripper1
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26. February 2003 @ 03:07 |
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used 4x it work, it never fail. i burn hurdred of vcd movie in 4x speed but when i tried higher speed my dvd cant read my vcd movie.
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Shoey
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26. February 2003 @ 23:57 |
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4x is really the best burning speed! I've backed up over 100 dvd movies to SVCD format and burned at 8x (bin& cue) with NO playback problems. It is recommended by many experts to burn NO faster than1/4th of your total burner speed. I prefer burning bin& cue format over MPEG anyday, anytime.
Shoey
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Sefy
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27. February 2003 @ 00:59 |
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I Don't know, i've burned around 140 movies and all of them was at 32x speed, and i've had not a single problem with any of them, even when played back on a Portable VCD/MP3 Player.
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Sefy Levy,
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Shoey
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27. February 2003 @ 01:20 |
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Sefy,
Consider yourself very fortunate as your home/portable/dvd-rom can read burned (S)VCD speeds at 32x. Many playback problems concerning burned (S)VCD is due to the fact the file(s) were burned TOO fast. Many home dvd/portable/dvd-roms can't read burned (S)VCD at high speeds resulting in playback errors.
Once again, I recommend burning NO higher than 8x for (S)VCD. After about 12-14 hours of encoding (DVD2SVCD), I'm not about to take any chance at burning high speeds only to find myself "maybe" re-encoding a dvd.
Shoey
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Sefy
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27. February 2003 @ 01:48 |
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I Think it's more dependend on the Media Quality then it is on the burning, although it also depends on the burner itself and how it records at high speeds/
I've tested not just on my equipment, but on many others, since I look for compatibility in the movies I do, so my friends can also watch them. I have yet to witness a single player equipment incapable of playing anything burned from 16x and up.
Of course, it all depends on the equipment used.
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Sefy Levy,
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27. February 2003 @ 07:23 |
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I've a 32x burner but I dont burn (s)vcd or audio cd's higher than 4x! One thing I noticed a few months ago was that ausio cd's burner at 32x (or 16x) skipped very easily while being fast forwarded and rewinded so thats just proof. Also, lots of problems with vcd playback have been fixed on this forum by suggesting 4x as a burn speed =)
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Shoey
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27. February 2003 @ 12:09 |
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About 6months ago I tested 3 home dvd players (Pioneer, GE& Apex) of (S)VCD burned at 24x. 2 of the 3 players had playback problems and I used Verbatim media. I then tried again at 16x and 1 had playback problems. I agree what media you use depends on playback problems and video quality (slightly). All I can say through my testing and experience, I find 8x to be the "safe" burn speed, 4x to be the better, and 12x or higher to be in "caution". I've burned audio at 48x and never had any troubles with playback (wave extracted/mp3 converted to wave). All my mp3 downloads form p2p file sharing clients that are not converted (my mp3 library) is data and I'm safe burning NO higher than 8x.
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27. February 2003 @ 18:53 |
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ahhh, must be my cd player so, lol, nah but the recommended burn speed for audio is 8x i think!
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Sefy
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27. February 2003 @ 21:01 |
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I Guess I just don't like playing safe ;-)
I'm Burning at 32x whenever possible, that's why I bought a 32x burner, have tested my VCD's on: Pioneer / Toshiba / Philips / Normande / Akai and others.
Again, I use only high quality media which is verified for high speed burns, so that could also be a drastical cause in reading performance.
But hey, each to his own right ? ;-)
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Sefy Levy,
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28. February 2003 @ 07:36 |
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Ah sure its nice burning at 32x just watching the cd complete extremely fast =)
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Sefy
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28. February 2003 @ 07:38 |
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Oh yeah! Burn Baby Burn! (is Ahead gonna sue me now ?) :-D
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Sefy Levy,
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28. February 2003 @ 07:43 |
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It's still not too reliable though! i find 4x is great for vcd/svcd!
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Sefy
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28. February 2003 @ 07:48 |
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It works for me, even plays smooth on a pathetic VCD/MP3 Player, can you argue with that ? :-P
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Sefy Levy,
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28. February 2003 @ 07:51 |
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Indeed I can, i use a stanalone dvd player that will play almost anything, (im trying to trick it into divx, lol) and it skips on things burned at 32x, lol and i use good media
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Sefy
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28. February 2003 @ 08:18 |
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It's not just the Media, it's also the DVD Player ;-)
I've got a good ol (6 years old) DVD Player, the Pioneer 525, plays everything I through at it, my only problem is it can't read CDR's above 89:59 min, which kinda bums me out, but hey, back there, those CDR's didn't exist even ;-)
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Sefy Levy,
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28. February 2003 @ 08:20 |
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Yep i know! most of the issues in things like this do lie with the media (ps try telling that to ppl on the ps2 forum *sigh*)
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Sefy
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28. February 2003 @ 08:23 |
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Naaa... I gave up trying to tell people things, it's a no win scenerio, and as a follower of James T. Kirk, I don't believe in no win Scenerios ;-)
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Sefy Levy,
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28. February 2003 @ 08:25 |
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I agree really though, lol
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plasmannc
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2. March 2003 @ 11:20 |
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I would like to thank everyone who responded to my initial question. The comments are really appreciated.
I noted several comments about the media to be used when burning SVCD's. While I have burnt hundreds of CD's over the years it is only recently I have started making svcd. Most of my recent burns have been either at 4X or at most 8X. I have been having a frequent problem with what I will call pixelation (colored blocks and or audio pops) right near the end of each CD (last 3 - 5 minutes). It does not seem to be a function of burn speed or file size as set in "biterate" with in DVDtoSCVD. (740 or 800 for disk size).
Since the problem is occuuring near the end of the CD I am assuming it is right out near the edge of the recordable medium. Can this be a function of the quality of the CD media used? BTW I get the same result on two different systems with different burners.
If what I described sounds like a media problem what are the best brands that has been found?
Thanks to all
Since
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Shoey
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2. March 2003 @ 15:40 |
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MEG2 or bin& cue format?. I had something similar of the same problem you had burning MPEG2 format& Nero. I then started creating bin& cue format (CD Image tab folder>VCDXBuild ticked). I now use BurnAtOnce and good media and don't have "pixelation" issues. Hope this helps. With my testing, my conclusion using DVD2SVCD is to also create bin& cue file(s) and use BurnAtOnce Or VCDEasy.
VCDEasy: http://www.vcdeasy.org/
BurnAtOnce: http://www.burnatonce.com/index.html
Nero: __________ <---------------= Blank
Shoey
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plasmannc
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3. March 2003 @ 06:11 |
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Shoey, thanks for the reply and what seems to be the probable solution.
While I have burnt many bin/cue's I was unable to get a recognizable CD when using Nero to burn the bin/cue created by DVDtoSVCD. Disk was always unreadable and rejected by my system. Soooo I had been loading the bin/cue into daemon tools and using Nero's CD Copy for all of the burns.
Tried using "burnatonce" and the bin/cue and as far as I can tell the finish disk appears to be okay. Any idea as to what the problem with Nero and Mpeg2 or DVDtoSVCD bin/cue might be?
Thanks for the help
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Shoey
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3. March 2003 @ 23:39 |
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I really can't give you an accurate answer. It might be an issue with Nero MPEG2 plug-in. Anyways, you can uninstall Nero because you don't need the program anyways.
Bin& cue, iso, data= BurnAtOnce 0.95
Safedisc 2.8.x (The Sims Unleashed)= Alcohol 120% (burner MUST be "compliant" to make backup)
SecuROM 4.8.x(Unreal Tournament 2003)= BlindWrite 4.25
Music: EAC (Exact Audio Copy). Plexy users= Plex Tools
Shoey
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