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overclocking this asrock mobo...help
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rugripper
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7. November 2005 @ 02:43 |
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i overclocked the mobo to 245 x 11,ddr 2 2 2 5 1T,vcore 1.45 volts[cant go any higher]everest says im overclocked to a 4200+ from a 3700+.rhe pc under system properties shows the pc 3700+ 2.65 normally that would say 2.2.
any higher shuts down,thats it huh?i have to do mod to vcore if i want to get as high as overclockers reviews,right? or can i losen timings up and how?i red they got this board up to 302.5, 11 x 275,on a 1.45 vcore,crazy huh?i have some wierd bios settings.please help me out.thanks in advance
also my memory went down from 200 to 188.60.red it from everest.also everest says i did a 20 percent overclock
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DemonDog
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7. November 2005 @ 04:45 |
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Just because someone else with the same motherboard and cpu got a certain overclock doesn't mean that you'll get the same. Each cpu is different, some you're lucky to get a 10% OC on, the batch of cpu's that were made the next week might go to 30% OC with no voltage increase and little heat increase. So MAYBE 20% is your max, my 3800+ seems to love overclocking, after letting the Arctic 5 Silver and new heatsink get a few hours under its belt its running at a 20% OC with idle temps of 25C and load of 32-35C, pretty amazing. Next weekend, I'm going to see how high it will go. In many ways your temps will tell you where the safe limit of the OC is.
Read the "how to" guides on the DFI site, though you don't have a DFI board the procedure is the same. First find out how much your RAM will OC then find out the limit of your CPU. Lots of good info and step by steps here.
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=9
Also you can try a google search for ASROCK forums, I know there's at least one biggie around, but I can't put my mouse on it right now.
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rugripper
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7. November 2005 @ 06:25 |
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hey man,didnt know that thanks.i though they were all the same.so 20 percent is good huh?i have alittle problem,cant run prime95 says a device driver keeps failing.even at regular clock speeds,a microsoft error comes up saying a device driver fail.what could this be the video card?having alot of problems lately with it overheating.i have the newest nvidia drivers,maybe they are not that good.do you have nvidia,if you do what do you use?have a feeling nvidias 85 driver is no good.thanks for the info,thats why i like this site,you always learn so much here.
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7. November 2005 @ 06:38 |
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AMD64 chips overclock by the RAM/bus speed. Your OC limit MAY not be due to CPU, but to memory. That's why if you follow the DFI guide you'll find out the limit to each component and then be able to figure your max OC. First you LOWER your cpu multiplier, so a 10x to a 6x, so that your cpu won't cause the OC failure, then you keep raising the bus/ram to find the max speed that your RAM can handle at 1:1, this is the first parameter in your OC equation. Now that you know the max the RAM can handle then you figure out how high the cpu can go. Then you fine tune performance with ram timings, bus speed and mulitpliers. Like I said the DFI guides are in depth and give a give step by step methodology.
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rugripper
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7. November 2005 @ 07:03 |
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awesome thanks dog...alot of good info
you dont have any idea what device driver could be causing these errors huh?
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7. November 2005 @ 08:38 |
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7. November 2005 @ 08:58 |
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TWENTY FIVE DEGREES IDLE??????
That can't be any higher than your room temperature!
How do you do it?
I have an Xp 3000+ (at the moment) running with Arctic Acrylic (Ok i know its not quite as good) and an Arctic cooling silent2l heatsink, and yet I only manage as low as 57ºC idle!
My case ventilation is fine, my Mainboard and hard disks run between 29 and 33ºC.
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jonni3
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7. November 2005 @ 09:09 |
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Athlon Xp's run hotter than than 64XP's, not only that they have some excellent HSF avaiabe for them ..... i have my 2800+ barton o.c'd to 2.45Ghz @ idle it's 38.5c & load 42c using a Thermaltake volcano 12 + AS5 :)
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7. November 2005 @ 09:36 |
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So what's up in this case?
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jonni3
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7. November 2005 @ 09:50 |
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When was the last time you cleaned out the case & HSF for dust, might help.... also it has a 3 speed fan which setting is it on ? your temps seem to be about the same as a stock HSF , found this http://bigbruin.com/reviews/silent2l/ from a quick google and yours should be a fair bit cooler than your temps ...
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rugripper
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7. November 2005 @ 09:50 |
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having a miserable time with this video card,jonni[lol]hey sam got this huge star ice on my cpu.this thing was so hard to put on,but in the end it was all worth it.hey jonni saw that,still thinking if i am brave enough to solder up this motherboard.my eyes arnt as good as they use to be[lol]i fixed the device driver error,for some reason the mobo agp driver needed to be reinstalled.i think this bios sucks,saw acouple of them on the overclock site,look very interesting.especially 1.41c from germany,just afraid its in german.that would suck cause i can read it[lol]almost forgot sam there a 120mm fan in front and back,and theres also a 80mm fan on the side,alot of circulation going on in there.its pretty quit though
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ENERMAX EGA850EWL GALAXY ATX 12V 850W SLI..sweet huh??
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evga 7800 gtx 512 mb card
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jonni3
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7. November 2005 @ 09:56 |
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What HSF you got on your 6800GT ? stop being a wuss (lol) & do the v.mod & dim mod & o.c the hell out of it ... ;)
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rugripper
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7. November 2005 @ 10:10 |
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ha ha ha...lmao....@ jonni....i got that silencer 5 with artic silver 5...the one mod is not that bad with some rear window defogger fix crap,the other one changing a resister,havent done that since my days in shop class in school,which was about 18 years ago[lol]funny.i might be crazy enough[lol]
thermaltake tsunami dream case windowed-all aluminium
ENERMAX EGA850EWL GALAXY ATX 12V 850W SLI..sweet huh??
amd64 3700+ san diego 64 bit
corsair 3500LLpros ddr500
evga 7800 gtx 512 mb card
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7. November 2005 @ 11:04 |
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The case is prety dust free, having been dusted only a couple of months ago. It isn't very wire free, they're everywhere, but if my mainboard temperature is usually around 30C there can't be too much of a problem there.
The heatsink is always at the high fan speed setting, even though for a 3000+ it recommends medium. My only concern is that my thermal pasting job was a little lousy... trouble is I can't be bothered to do it again, I don't even know where the stuff is. I'm aware that 2500 XPs run very cool and OC well, but what about the 3000?
Besides I'm very reluctant to overclock this since it has very cheap Elixir RAM which I'm told isn't particularly good. Mind you, the stuff in the possible second system I may get may not be much better.
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rugripper
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7. November 2005 @ 11:20 |
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my last pc was a 2800+ emachine 2825 the cpu usally stayed at 32c-44c load with a volocano 11 heatsink and fan,i use to blast it at 5000 rpms pretty loud but ran real cool.there is three settings on that heatsink was a pretty good one, not that exspendsive.i think 39 us dollars
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jonni3
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7. November 2005 @ 12:24 |
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Maybe tidy the wires up as they restrict air flow around the case and try reseating the HSF or get a fan with a higer cfm rating than the current one ...get some AS5 then you can use it on your next build as well , i think the 2500+ were the Thoroughbred core jobs which o.c like crazy your 3000+ & my 2800+ are the 333fsb barton core jobs with the locked 12.5 multi's, so yours should be good for 2.5 +Ghz with goood ddr400 ram, with your current ram maybe 175ish on the fsb with a slight increase in v.core
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rugripper
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7. November 2005 @ 12:53 |
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if you want you can buy a module power supply they are alot neater and round ata and floppy cable so your pc can breath alittle.did that myself, what a difference these mod power suppies make and round wires.i can actually see my mobo and ram[lol]
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jonni3
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7. November 2005 @ 12:58 |
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He just got a new PSU after his Q-tec went bang, talking of which i just put a FSP blue storm 500w in my rig after my thermaltake butterfly 480w became unstable .... how many of us warned him about Q-tec psu's ..lol :)
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rugripper
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7. November 2005 @ 14:26 |
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thats why i love this forum so much drama here[lol]hey jonni,thats an awesome ps glows in uv light, doesnt it?sam sam sam ...that sucks...i hate when that happens but your lucky thats all that happened sometimes they blow up[ps]my sister had an old pc and the ps litterly blew up .found pieces of it all over the pc,its was a old garbage pc anyway.it was junk after that.really what happened sam?they rma?
this silencers hs instructions say while the card and fan are running, suck the dust thru the back of pc with vacuum.
did you guys ever here of that?
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evga 7800 gtx 512 mb card
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jonni3
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7. November 2005 @ 15:28 |
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Glows in u.v ? i've no idea, maybe the sleeving over the cables does, i take it your VGA cooler exhaust's the hot air via the rear of the card & out of a spare slot in the p.c case, yeah that kinda makes sense rather than take the thing apart again .... getting back to your o.c have you tried lowering the multi, using a different divider to increase the FSB ? :)
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7. November 2005 @ 20:28 |
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i took it apart and cleaned it.so dirty in a couple months ,crazy.if you get a uv light the wires glow and the ends.check this out:
http://www.pcmoddingmy.com/content.php?review.112.1
pretty kool huh?
i was going to do the mod but i have to take the star ice heatsink back off.i decided not too[lol]there got to be a bios somewhere thst will overclock this board.just tried the 1.4 bios.this one is worse then 1.3.i hear the 1.2 was a good one,at least give me 1.55 on the vcore and take away the locked mutiplier.seems like i cant get pass this vcore crap[lol]same as my other junk,hey but this board does fly.
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In order to claim for any sort of damage refund, they want the entire PC to go to Dordrocht. Sounds like a big waste of time to me. I suppose it is lucky, after all, one of my friend's PSUs started emitting sparks and smoke out the rear, and two of the ones at school have gone bang extremely loudly, some blowing an entire row (4) of fuses. However, it's not the first power supply that's gone, the Qtec replaced a Magna power supply that I originally bought to power the X800Pro, which only lasted a week before the number of times it turned itself off became too great.
After those experiences, I'm not buying a cheap PSU again.
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jonni3
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8. November 2005 @ 08:09 |
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So your multiplier is locked on your cpu & the best you can get is a 245 fsb, that's 2695Mhz which ain't to bad ... to losen your ram timings you need to change the values in cas(cl) lantency, TRCD, TRAS, TRP also looking at your bios you have an overclock mode settings are [auto], [cpu, pcie, sync.] & [cpu,pcie,async] which one you using & try enabling the flexibility option .... as for the u.v thing it's kinda pointless as all the power cables are hidden in my rig :)
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rugripper
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8. November 2005 @ 08:13 |
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yea right.those ps that expole are like the fourth of july.my sisters blew up when i was looking on the net.scared the piss out of me[lol]me nether,never will buy cheap again.not to sure about this hiper r 580 blue, i have.the thing never turns off,like it powers down to standbye mode.if i want to turn off,i can hit the switch in the back.kind of a pain in the arse[lol]just hope it dosent cause a fire[lol]that sucks they want whole pc,they would probably blame it on something else anyway.for 100 bucks you can throw a new one in and not be aggravated,i would have done same thing...peace
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rugripper
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8. November 2005 @ 08:31 |
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oh,jonni,its cool though huh?
now enable the flexability mode?ok
this is how the bios looks,kind of confussing compared to a athlon xp
cpu asyn mod
cpu 200
muli max 11 from 4 through 11
ddr 200[can change]133,166,200
ram 2252 1T
vcore 1.45v goes from .8 up to 1.45
preamble 5.5
asyn 7.5
ddr set to high high normal auto
cpu-nb link theres #200 to 1000,and auto
under above 8 16 and auto
sb-nb link same thing as last one
flexability-disabled enable auto disable
bank interleaving-disabled same as above
what do i do?help me be the new guiennus champ[lol]kept crashing 265 on prime95 otherwise ran great
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