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LITEON 5005 OR LITEON 5005X
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aztec1
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8. November 2005 @ 13:07 |
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Hi Iam in the process of buying a dvd recorder, nothing fancy i just want something to record boxing, i was looking at these two recorders and i would like to know wich one its better.....some say that the old liteon 5005 is better because you are able to upgrade the firmware..and some say the new 5005x its better.
can somebody share more info on this ?
thanks in advance.
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9. November 2005 @ 03:52 |
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aztec1
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9. November 2005 @ 11:44 |
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thanks a lot catfreak, that is a lot of good info.
I really appreciated.
aztec
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aztec1
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9. November 2005 @ 11:47 |
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FYI whoever is interested, newegg have them for 109.00
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10. November 2005 @ 02:14 |
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NewEgg only has the 5005X .. and the LVW-5005X seems to be running about $20 less than the LVW-5005 throughout the 'net
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KimTx
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12. November 2005 @ 21:58 |
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I found the LVW-5005 (it does not have the X) at Newegg for $109.00 and ordered one this weekend so they do have them. Now I just need to find the upgrade or downgrade I'll need and the hack. It uses the same hack as the ILO04, correct? Also how will I know if it'll need an upgrade or a downgrade? Will I be able to tell by the serial number? Thanks to anyone who can help me with these questions.
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13. November 2005 @ 04:35 |
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Let's wait and see what configuration you get .. make sure before you open it that it truly is a 5005 and not a 5005X
After finding out EXACTLY which machine you get, you need the date of manufacture which is on the outside of the box ..
Post this info and we'll go from there
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KimTx
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13. November 2005 @ 05:16 |
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KimTx
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13. November 2005 @ 05:32 |
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I was just looking at pictures of the actual units and the 5005 and the 5005X look completely different. The 5005X looks like an ILO. I'm thinking I should be able to tell the difference just by the picture of the machine on the box hopefully. The picture of the one I just ordered doesn't look like the 5005X. I hope it's not going to be one. I'd be so disappointed.
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13. November 2005 @ 14:12 |
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LVW-5005- versus LVW-5005X what's the difference ? Have Philips DVDR-72 that is gone crappy on me gives disc error message all the time . Think that it'll be cheaper to buy LVW-5005 than to fix Philips ? I mainly plan to use LVW-5005 for copying vhs movies & recording off cable . I am also interested in what media brands work well with this unit checked compatability list on liteon website and did'nt recognize too many brands . I would also like your impression on unit quality overall especially recording qaulity in all formats! Thanx for your help . Peace & Happy Burning !
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14. November 2005 @ 08:50 |
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Both of my LVW-5005 LiteOns like Verbatim, Sony, MIJ Fuji and all Maxell discs. They also seem to record better with the '+' format discs than with the '-' format discs. Recording quality is very good. 1hr is better than cable quality, 2hr is cable quality, 4hr is equal to better than SP VHS and 6hr is between SP and SLP (like LP) VHS quality.
One thing that you have to watch for is the 'lag time' when you first press record. A brand new disc will usually start recording within 1-3 seconds but .. if you have already recodred on a disc (you know, episodes and the like) sometimes it may take up to a minute! for recording to start. (Lag time doesn't seem to be a problem when you use the timer record function). What I usually do is press record several minutes before the program starts, and when the recording starts, I press pause immediatly then wait for the program to begin to start recording. If you use +RW discs, this isn't nearly as much of a problem. The +RW discs made by Verbatim are the best and surprisingly, the Philips made +RW discs branded HP also seem to work very well in the LiteOn (however my BenQ hates the Philips discs)
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14. November 2005 @ 11:51 |
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catfreak- Thanx for the reply ! I am still up in the air. not about the 5005 vs 5005x question when I do decide I will get the 5005 not the x model . It's just deciding what's providing me the most benefit for my birthday and xmas buck ! you know! Decisions ,Decisions ! Anyways assuming I do get the 5005 how hard is it to do the fw upgrade or hack to non macrovision & region free ? I don't really have access to non region one dvds or video . The macrovision removal would be of more assistance to me !Backing up movies that I've bought onsale on vhs ! What I do is make dvd copies of my Vhs movie & give my originals to my brother in law who's handicapped ! Gets rid of my clutter & gives him something new to watch ! One of those rare win win situations ! I am also glad that you say the 2005 likes MIJ +R fuji's I got a fair supply of those. The only thing I don't like about the lite on is apparently if I read the information correctly is that among all the things it will do is it won't read disc I've already recorded on my philips dvdr-72 vr format ! But this would'nt be a real biggy as I could always make a copy on the computer and booktype it ( BENQ 1640) also might be in xmas future too! So I think that would solve that ! Well catfreak Thanx again for the help ! Peace Happy Burning & Catnip!
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aztec1
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15. November 2005 @ 15:42 |
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Hi guys i just received my dvd recorder from newegg (109 dlls), and it is in fact the 5005 not the 5005x, there is a big diference the 5005x has two trays.
BIGTOXY69, it is really easy to upgrade it (hack it) it took me less than 5 min to do it and now is microvision (free) and region free.
thanks everyone for your input.
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KimTx
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15. November 2005 @ 20:29 |
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thanks for letting me know, aztec1. It'll be a little while before mine arrives because I sent them a check. This is good news. Thanks!
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16. November 2005 @ 04:32 |
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aztec1, catfreak- & Children of all ages ! ordered my 5005 yesterday from NEWEGG.COM and will check in when it arrives on how to do the Macrovison & region free hack ! Thank you both for you help & opinions as they are valued ! Peace Happy Holidays - Happy BURNING & GOOD LUCK!
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Camfreak
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18. November 2005 @ 08:15 |
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Hello,
I'm new here. I read this thread and decided to buy the Lite-On LVW-5005 from Newegg.com. It went up $10.00 since you guys bought it. I paid $119.00 and $9.00 for 3 day ship. Why?, I dont know. I should have it Monday.
I'm not sure how to change to the hack firmware. Can someone tell me how to do this. I also saw that some people bought Legacy DVD+R blanks from Newegg. Do any of you know if these are good? They have a good price of $27.99 for 100 discs and $4.00 ship. Thanks for the help. :)
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18. November 2005 @ 10:48 |
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Camfreak
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20. November 2005 @ 11:41 |
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Thanks Catfreak,
I read the instr on that site. Which CD works best for the 5005 CD-R or CD-RW? I burn things all the time but I never tried to update a firmware on a DVD player before. How hard is it to mess up and not be able to use the 5005? Do you have to dl the latest fware and install it before you install the hack? I'm a little weary of using Lite-On's fware because they might try to ruin the hacks.
Thanks
Not at this time ;)
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KimTx
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20. November 2005 @ 14:28 |
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My LiteOn 5005 will arrive this Wednesday from Newegg. Just thought I'd let you all know. I've gotten really good service from them so far. I don't think they have the LiteOn5005 on sale anymore, but even at the regular price it seems like an OK deal. Now I don't know if I want to put it away in the closet and save it for when my ILO04 goes out, or hook it to my other TV in the living room away.
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Camfreak
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21. November 2005 @ 17:08 |
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I just got my 5005 today and I'm ready to hack fware. Please can someone answer my questions above.
I bought Memorex DVD+R's today a 30pk but I've read there is trouble with using them on Lite-on's so I'm taking them back to Walmart and getting Maxell. I wish they sold Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim but they don't.
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KimTx
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21. November 2005 @ 17:48 |
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As an alternative for blank media try any of these.
Fuji
Maxell
Sony
Memorex is the absolute worst, made by CMC Magnetics. They are the worst of the worst. Good idea to take those back and get something else.
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22. November 2005 @ 02:33 |
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For the firmware updates and hacks, use CD-R and make sure to finalize (or close session) the disc ..
As far as the brand of DVD .. +R and +RW discs work better than -R and -RW .. The brand? Well, neither of my 5005 units seem to like Taiyo Yuden made discs .. this has been a sticky point since my BenQ gets the best burns with 'em .. rhw 5005 units love Verbatim, all Maxell, MIT Sony and Ritek .. I have never tried CMAG/Memorex (maybe they work, maybe not) ..and the Verbatim +RW are excellent as well as the Philips produced HP +RW discs (the BenQ won't write well to the HP, bur reads 'em very well)
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22. November 2005 @ 09:02 |
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catfreak- My Liteon 5005 arrived yesterday have opened the box & looked at manual & accesories but have'nt installed it as of yet ! mt question is ? Now that I have it do I install the 3 hr. mode & if so where do I find the upgrade ? Is it on LIteon's website? Also is ir worth doing IE: Is it a uograde in resolution over 4hr. mode or just same quality at 3hrs . imstaed of 4hrs. I think per your posting That I may do the region free trick but Prefer to stick with the factory fw either what it came with or latest if it needs to upgrade! Also Does itsay anywhere in the manual or paperwork which firmware I have ? I have perused the manual & it does'nt mention the 3HR. speed at all so I assume it isn'nt currently enabled ! Also I remember youposting something about the Serial number & it having to do with upgrading or downgrading your FW ! As I have only this Liteon 5005 recorder and the Philips ( Disc Error ) Broken one ! woukld it make sense for me to do so Upgrade/downgrade ? Well catfreak! I have bothered you enough but you are the goto man for this product so I apologize for monoplizing your wisdom! Thanks again ! & Happy Thanksgiving!
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 22. November 2005 @ 13:52
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22. November 2005 @ 10:29 |
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As fae as the 3 hour hack .. it is a hack, not authorized by LiteOn so I'm not sure what it will do to your warranty status (the LVW-5005 has a 1 year, parts and labor warranty!) The resolution is the same with the 3hr and 4hr mode, the only difference is the bit-rate ...
The serial number that I posted about in the past refers to a particular machine's configuration .. Go to the following link .. it explains how to find that number and how to find out if a newer firmware is available ..
http://www.liteonit.com/DC/english/download/index.asp
In most cases, you will need to burn 2 CDs to upgrade your firmware .. 1 for the drive firmware and 1 for the system firmware .. Personally, if a machine works well, I'd leave well enough alone .. I waited 10 months or so before I did anything with mine and that was because I wanted my old unit and my new unit to have matching firmware ..
Most of the firmware upgrades are to enable the recorder to use the newest media (ie 16x) so your's should be okay ..
One last point BIGTOXY69, don't ever apoligize for asking questions .. when I bought my first recorder, I received assistance from various sources .. the payback is to pass along what I've learned
Victor
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22. November 2005 @ 13:25 |
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catfreak- 1st. thanks for the help & information! I think I'll forgo the 3hr hack I can always just record at the 4 hr. speed but only record 3hrs. of video anwyways! on the macrovison defeat with hacking !Do I ubderstand right that I pull up the menu screen leave it up then select record & speed from remote record 15seconds or so pause the 5005 then roll my vhs or dvd that I wish to record from rhen unpause the recorder and let it rip? Also setting the 5005 to be region free is a non permanent change = Not a hack! I wouldb'nt be switching the unit back & forth but am thinking warranty issues? also This allows for region free recordings like we burn on the computer correct! And having looked up a list of nstc tv system using countries apparently there is a plethora of video waiting to be played in a region free deck! My apology was my fumbling attempt at humility ! That's been my M.O. on afterdawn since finding it ! Approach everyone as a friend and in a humble manner and giving credit to others for their help !, Wisdom and support ! I've checked out other tech- forums but have found that the quaility of the people and information is much much better right here! Seemed like the other tech /users groups /forums were more interested in playing Fight room and dogging each other out so I stay here! Just wanted to say thanks and all that! Happy Thanksgiving - Peace & Happy BURNING
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