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ecarlson
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3. December 2005 @ 21:52 |
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Hello...I've been using DVDXCopy for the last few years and recently added AnyDVD to the arsenal (after temporarily being foiled by Columbia releases) but I've noticed a somewhat disturbing trend. On Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and Polar Express, there is intermittent brief pausing on the playback. Depending on whether I play back on the Panasonic or the Toshiba, sometimes the pausing is very brief visually while the sound keeps going (then the video speeds up to "catch up" or the video/audio will pause briefly together. I use an older (2 years) Lite-On burner and typically Sony media...has anyone else run into these problems at all? Thanks so much!
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withDVD
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4. December 2005 @ 04:18 |
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I had the same problem when I used 1ClickDVD for ripping. Since then and with advice from users on this forum I switched to Shrink and have not experienced the same problem; I also keep a copy of DVDClone which has an appealing filmstrip user interface for DUMMIES like me.
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4. December 2005 @ 04:26 |
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yes, i would use dvd shrink or if you are willing to pay clonedvd2 because they are much more advanced with much more features and dvd x copy is old and no longer updated and leaves notable pixelation and has a nag screen at the beginning of the movies. clonedvd2 works best so try the 21 day trial. its made by the good folks who made anydvd, http://www.slysoft.com
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ecarlson
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4. December 2005 @ 05:53 |
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Thanks guys! It's a little easy to get lost with all the programs being discussed in the forum and the various combinations of using them...but make sure I have this right: if I use the cloneDVD2 with the Any DVD I already have I should be set? One thing I have liked about DVDxCopy is the ability to go "simple" (movie only), split into two discs, or cram the whole thing onto one...do you have the same ability with CloneDVD? Thanks again!
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4. December 2005 @ 06:57 |
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mackdl
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4. December 2005 @ 07:42 |
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I had no issues doing a backup of Polar Express (DVDXCopy) and playback on my Toshiba.
BTW. What a delightful movie, sure to be a perennial favorite! This title was sold out in many of the stores I went to. I did find the 2 disc version for less than what the 1 disc was selling for. SHOP AROUND!
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ecarlson
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4. December 2005 @ 13:23 |
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Awwww...this is frustrating. I downloaded the CloneDVD and used it to copy Polar Express on both the Sony and Fuji media...and the exact same results as on DVDxCopy (minus the lovely warning page, of course). The even stranger thing is it will do it's pausing-then speeding up-trick a few times, but if I shuttle back over it briefly and play the same part again it will be fine. I've noticed the pausing then speeding up error on several older Paramount titles if compression is used, but this is now two newer Warner titles that should have used little or no compression to get one titleset (and one subtitle) on a disc. Does anyone think this is more likely a symptom of the burner, the media, or the DVD players involved? (again, it's a Lite-On 411S burner, using Sony and Fuji media, and on Panasonic and Toshiba DVD players). Thanks again in advance!
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ecarlson
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4. December 2005 @ 14:54 |
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I thought I'd go ahead and reply to myself before anyone had a chance to comment as the plot has thickened a bit since my last posting. In my undying efforts to make a CLEAN copy of Polar Express I knocked the write speed down to 2.4x (on CloneDVD). Now, it plays fine on the Panasonic but not the Toshiba. The irony? The Panasonic is the one that did the complete pause and re-start errors previously. The Toshiba just does the video pause and catch-up while the audio stays consistent. So....now I'm trying 1x write speed just to see if THAT makes any difference on the Toshiba. This should maybe be another thread but I'm wondering now...what is the normal life expectancy of a burner? I've used this for over two years and have made way more copies than I'd care to admit....is part of the problem it's exhausted? :) Thanks!
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withDVD
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4. December 2005 @ 15:27 |
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Hello ecarlson,
I have three quick suggestions:
- the first you already did by lowring yor write speed.
- the second is update your firmware on the burner if one if available.
- the last is to be sure no other applications are running during the rip and burn just to ensure your processor is not being over-run.
Let us know...
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4. December 2005 @ 17:45 |
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@ecarlson.
I will give you some advice based on MY OWN experience. There have been reports of "issues" with AnyDVD & DVDXcopy. I used to use Xcopy. I had trouble with back-ups when both were installed. Personally, I would completely Un-Install DVDXcopy. Use a registry cleaner to remove all traces in the registry. Remove & re-install AnyDVD, should not be hard if you own it, you have a "Key" saved I would hope. Download & install CloneDVD 2. I have found that The BEST combination for me is This: CloneDVD 2 & AnyDVD. To date, it has been unstoppable & has provided me with Excellent Quality Back-Ups on any & all my movies, even the newest Sonys. It even supports Dual Layer! CloneDVD 2 does. You MAY have to replace your burner with a New one. 2 years old is pretty old these days. A lot of Memebers like the BenQ Dual Layer Burners. You can get one for less than 50 bucks. I hope this helps you. By the way, 4X Burn Speed is usually pretty safe, however, your Burner being 2 years old may not support the newe high speed media completely. Buy a new burner, that 2 year old one has surely paid for itself! Here's a link to one for $45.00, shipped Free!http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=173831
Use The Best Media for The Best Burns! TYs, Verbs,(Made in Taiwan) Sony MIJs (YUDEN000 T02), Sony Made in Taiwan DVD+R 16x, Maxell MIJ, RITEK G05.
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ecarlson
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4. December 2005 @ 20:48 |
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Is there a particular registry cleaner you'd recommend? I don't think I've used anything like that before...so I'd be pretty clueless as to what to look for and then how to use it. :) At this point, I'm willing to try anything but there are a few more inconsistencies. First, I only added AnyDVD a few months ago and had noticed that problem intermittently before that. I always just chalked it up the DVD player as normally I could get it to play fine in the other one. POLAR is the first title that has done some degree of pausing no matter where I play it (well, almost...it plays fine on my laptop...not that that helps). As far as the new burner goes? If it's the burner that is the culprit, why does it still only do it intermittantly? As I've been trying to figure out any and all possibilities...I've wondered about the different kinds of originals. Could it be that certain brands of original media that is used and/or the type of encoding or compression that is used have any bearing on the quality of the burn regardless of the burner and copy media? Reason I ask that...in the past...this pause-then-speed-up problem only seemed to happen on older Paramount titles (Virtuosity, Brady Bunch, etc.) and a few miscellaneous (Clay Pigeons). Could there be some common denominator in those original titles that is causing the problem if the majority of other movies burn fine with the same burner and same media? That being said, I will plan on going ahead and getting that new burner you recommended. It looks like a wonderful deal on a very nice burner...and while the inconsistency makes it hard for me to believe it's all the burner's fault, I agree I've gotten plenty of mileage out of this one and it might be time for him to retire. :)
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ecarlson
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4. December 2005 @ 21:36 |
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one more thing I just thought of...any pros/cons to using the same drive for reading/writing vs loading the read and loading the write drive at the same time and having it go seamlessly from one to the other? I kinda like that feature in CloneDVD but had in my mind it wasn't good to do that. I've experimented with both a bit and haven't seen any differences but was curious if anyone else had?
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Whisperer
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4. December 2005 @ 22:29 |
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ecarlson,
CloneDVD/AnyDVD combo does not backup "on the fly", from drive to drive, as you describe. To my knowledge, no software can backup a protected disk this way. Only non protected data DVD's or already decrypted copies can be copied on the fly in so called "disk to disk duplication" devices.
The ripped data HAS to go to the HDD in order to allow for decrypting.
If you put the original into your ripper and blank media into your burner, AnyDVD decrypts as CloneDVD rips to a temp file on the HDD. Then CloneDVD burns from the temp file. When you close CloneDVD the temp file is deleted by default unless you select to keep the file.
So, the only difference between the two methods you described is that one way the data sent to the HDD does not remain on the drive after the backup (temp) and the other way, it is there on the drive until you wish to delete it.
Many may wish to rip to HDD and use a computer based player to preview the decryption accuracy, compression quality, split point, sound choices, or to make sure that scratched originals have copied ok, etc, before going to burn. I feel the method is sort of a holdover from the days when media was so expensive that one could not afford bad burns. I also feel that testing on a real home entertainment DVD player is a better test. Many bad backups will play on the system they were created on but not a standalone player.
I just use CloneDVD to rip and burn unattended to dual layer or split SL. The only problems I have had with CloneDVD's "seamless" method (as you call it) is if the original is badly flawed. If I see scratches on the original, I resurface it first with an Digital Innovations Automax disk resurfacing kit.
Best regards,
Whisperer
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