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13. December 2005 @ 12:42 |
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This was suggested to me below, but I was wondering what others thought about it. I'm building the computer for gaming, internet, word processing, pictures, movies. Any other suggestions for a good computer? Please include the price if known
P4 3.0GHz/512/800 w/HT (socket 478) Apprx. $170
MSI865GM2-LS Motherboard(see below for additional specs) Apprx $90
1 Gb of PC3200 DDR 400 RAM Apprx $65
Seagate Barracuda ST3160023AS 160GB 7200rpm Serial ATA150 8MB Buffer
Apprx $110
DVD-RW combo drive Apprx $40
Black Bio II ATX MidTower Case w/ 450W Power Supply Apprx $70
-Jay-
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EVGA GTX 470
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13. December 2005 @ 13:03 |
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That is good but now all computers come with those things ,If you want to stand out get a P4 3.4 GHz, 2 gigs or ram, and a Lite Scribe Dual layer burner
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13. December 2005 @ 13:30 |
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go with a 775 socket board & cpu as 478 is being or is discontinued. other possibility is go with an amd cpu & socket 939 board.
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14. December 2005 @ 00:01 |
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I would go with an AMD 64 and a Socket 939 Mobo,I belive that AMD processors are just better than Intel and the 939 Mobo will allow for further upgrades in the future.
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14. December 2005 @ 05:56 |
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Component(s)
Price will very
Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-500MCE
$123
eVGA GeForce 6600 256MB TV-out/DVI/HDTV PCI-E Heatsink Edition
$168
Silver Ahanix MCE601 Home Theater PC case
$219
Microsoft MCE Remote Control for Windows XP MCE
$30
Internal 17-in-1 USB 2.0 card reader, CR101A
$17
Sony DWQ28A 16X double layer (8.5GB) DVD+-RW dual drive, black
$60
Gigabyte GA-K8N Ultra-9, AMD 64, socket 939, nForce4, 4GB, ATX
$105
Two SuperTalent PC3200 512MB DDR400 2 Bank 32MX8 CL2.5 or 3
$90
BTC 9019URF wireless multimedia keyboard with dual-mode joystick
$44
AMD Athlon 64 3200+, Venice, 512KB L2 cache, socket 939-retail
$170
NVIDIA PureVideo Decoder
$20
Seagate Barracuda 250GB, 7200 rpm SATA hard drive
$90
Linksys WMP54GS Wireless-G PCI card with SpeedBooster
$60
TOTAL
$1,196
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23. December 2005 @ 05:21 |
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So where do you buy all this to get the best price?
-Jay-
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23. December 2005 @ 12:50 |
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newegg.com
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bodean500
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25. December 2005 @ 15:38 |
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google it. there is tons of good site.
try this site for other info. www.upgradingandrepairingpcs.com
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28. December 2005 @ 14:27 |
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thanx
-Jay-
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1. January 2006 @ 04:21 |
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What's better intel or AMD?
-Jay-
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1. January 2006 @ 04:28 |
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1. January 2006 @ 13:39 |
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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7438739&type=produc...
Dont laugh, check out the specs. ati mobo, dual density, 1 gig, blah, blah.
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817153023
You will need a new psu, as the original 300 watt wont power a good graphics card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102543
I actually bought this card for $240.00 at best buys. 16 pipes cant be wrong.
This is not a wish system, it is the system i just bought for my son. It loads BF2 maps a minimum of 45 seconds faster then my p4 3.0c oc'ed @ 3.5ghz.
So there you have it. A simple build that just requires you to swap out a power supply (psu), clean out the on board vid drivers, and install the new vid card using latest drivers available from ati.com. You dont even have to go into bios to disable the on board vid card, ati does that for you. It just cant get any simpler withou spending more money
All for under $900.00
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1. January 2006 @ 18:49 |
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Sorry Jeanc1 about that...
Wetchaser, i think i'd rather go with your p4 3.0ghz. the one you suggested is only 2.2ghz. i don't know if it's meant to be that way.
Would it be better if I just bought all the parts separately off of neweggs.com?
-Jay-
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1. January 2006 @ 22:38 |
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You are talking exactly as i was before my friends talked me into buying this puter for my son. Dude take a leap of faith. I wouldnt stear you wrong man. Were my computer will get the stutters in serious graphical equations, his just flows oh so smooth. The ghz thing is all hype. The best part about his computer is its totally upgradable. Right now it has a ide drive in it, but the mobo has 4 sata connectors just waiting for drives to be plugged in. It comes with a gig of ram, but will hold up to 4 gig. This is an entry level computer with some serious punch. ATI may not be recognized as a leader in the mobo field, but they sure aint making no junk.Untill a month ago, e-machine was definatly the bottom feader in computers imo. God i never thought i would be trying to talk someone "into" buying an e-machine. The following is my system specs, and i reformatted less then a month ago, so its working with a fresh install on a pair of raid enabled 120 gig drives. It can not hold a candle to that lowly e-machine.
LanParty PRO875B rev. B
P4 soc 478 3.0C @3.5ghz un-crashable
Fourtron 530 watt psu
XP pro
G.Skill 512x2 DDR PC-4400 2.5-4-4-8
2-120gig harddrives raid 0-1
SB Audigy 2 ZS Platinum
Ati X850xt Platinum
Thermaltake case
Bios is 9/13/2004
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2. January 2006 @ 14:14 |
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hmmm...i'll do some more research...it's still 900$...that's still money. I'm gonna make sure it's gonna be worth while. so if you had a 900$ budget and were gonna build a new computer from scratch you'd still buy that? Or what parts would you buy?
-Jay-
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2. January 2006 @ 18:38 |
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If you feel you can build it cheaper then go for it man, im just so f'ing impressed with that AMD is the main jist here. I have already decided that this machine is going to be a server, and my next great creation will be an AMD. I guess im gonna have a agp x850xt platnium for sale soon...hmm I have around $1600.00 in this rig including case.
p.s. im really in no rush to build a new system till sli. gpu. and dual cpu. really show some muscle for the money you spend. i feel this is the next big step for pc's
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3. January 2006 @ 05:13 |
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The best computer on a budget i can think of would cost about 3000$. Here are the parts and the estimated prices.
AMD FX57... always get the AMD FX series for its power the whopping 1250$!
RAID 120gbs duel... this is for the games, always have alot of space
250$
2gbs of mushkin memory... the top rated gaming memory 300$
16x duel layer Lite-on disk drives... very fast and reliable 75$
ASUS SLI premium... you can add almost anything to this whenever 200$
nVidia 6800 ultra... get the best one in each series because the 8800 is-a-comin 400$
Creative X-Fi series sound card... 300$
And any good 600 watt power supplie for future SLI
Please update me for prices.
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3. January 2006 @ 05:28 |
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3. January 2006 @ 06:51 |
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that site seems like an overpriced site...anyways how do you know what to look for when you buy each parts? (Motherboard, CPU, RAM, Video Card, Sound Card, etc.) I don't get it; i'm don't know much about computer hardware...
-Jay-
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3. January 2006 @ 07:00 |
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You have to look for reliability. Here are some reliable manufacturers*.
nVidia, ATI: Video Cards
Corsair, Mushkin: Ram
Western Digital: Hardrive
Creative: Sound Cards
ASUS: Motherboard
Lite-on; Disk Drives
AMD, Intel: CPU
Antec: Case
Arctic Cooling: Heatsink and Fan
All of these parts are availible from Newegg.com
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3. January 2006 @ 07:23 |
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No doubt that is a machine to drool over Pokey, but the end result is a computer that costs 3 times as much, that will not deliver 3 times the performance. Go to your favorite computer review site, an pay attention to the benchmarks. The performance is more like 25-30% better and no more. Sli vid cards alone will give you less then a 10% increase in frame rate, but yet you just shelled out twice as much money. Top of the line computers are for people with enough money to buy a new 3 grand computer every year. For those of us that have to actually count our money, they are a pipe dream.
Jay i bought a DFI mother board because of there top rated support forums.
www.Dfi-street.com
My system was designed by Angry_Games a moderator there. My first build, and im so happy with it. Any time i had a ?, i posted the ? and it was answered within 24 hours every time. I would recomend you go there, and post how much you have to spend in "off topic" and ask for recommendations. Be aware that DFI mobo's are geared towards overclockers, so there forums sorta lean that way alot.
P.S i bought everything from newegg.
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3. January 2006 @ 09:34 |
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I do drool over it, but I had to settle for the Duel-X Gamer's Edge with some upgrades in it instead. Don't have the money :-(
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11. January 2006 @ 08:33 |
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Alright, thank you for all your help and comments. Here is what I'm thinking right now. I looked them up on newegg as well. If you know something at the same or relative price, please tell me...
ESC KN1 Extreme Socket 939 Nvidia nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $97.99
ATRIX CSCI-L8005-C43 Black/Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 400W Power Supply - Retail $55.99
Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM $55 (I have another 300GB with me)
e ECS KN1 Extreme Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $97.99
eVGA 256-P2-N386 Geforce 6800GS 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail $205
CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model VS1GBKIT400 - Retail $80
Please tell me what you think. It costs total including shipping 780. I don't want to spend more than 800$ because I gotta buy a monitor. Do you know where I can get the cheapest price for monitors? preferrably a 17"? Also Do you think I'll need another power supply?
-Jay-
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11. January 2006 @ 09:22 |
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11. January 2006 @ 15:09 |
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I think the mobo is close to good enough, but for another $40 or less you can get a sli version that will make upgrading in the future to 2 video cards quite easy. Easier to just move some jumpers and plug a card in, then replace mobo later. Your buying a sli ready card, would be a shame to never put it to the test later on. Card looks pretty good by the way.
Im sure that is a good hard drive, but this drive is loved by us guys at DFI forums http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822145082 3gps transfer rate for $51. I just ordered 4 for my build. They are also 80 gig.
Building any system now should require a minimum of 2 gigs of ram. BF2 rewards 2 gigs of ram with smoothness. otherwise it could be a herky jerky experiance.
Have you decided on a cpu yet. If you can swing a x2-4400, you will love life. Anything slower then that puts you back at 512mb onchip secondary cache. 1024 for x2-4400 on up.
I was gonna get myself a new monitor as well, but decided to spend the money on hard parts instead.
Shipping Method UPS Ground Invoice Date 1/10/2006 10:33:19 AM
Item Description Quantity Unit Price Extended Price
13-136-157 MB DFI LP UT nF4 SLI-DR NF4SLI 939
(Serial#: U54801045) 1 $169.99 $169.99
DFI (510)-623-5010
20-227-066 MEM 1Gx2|OCZ OCZ5002048ELGEGXT-K R
(Serial#: 0C1JAY04000000W) 1 $249.94 $249.94
For Tech support call: 408 986 8400 or email support@ocztechnology.com
17-711-002 PSU OCZ | OCZ520ADJSLI 520W RT
(Serial#: 0AJLWA040000072) 1 $139.99 $139.99
For Tech support call: 408 986 8400 or email support@ocztechnology.com
11-119-039 CASE COOLERMAS|STC-T01-UWK RT
(Serial#: 06MBI70A000000R) 1 $158.50 $158.50
22-145-082 HD 80G|HITC 7K 8M SATA2 0A30356 %
(Serial#: S6RV34VM ,S6RUP3KM ,S6RV5PZM ,S6RVRS3M) 4 $50.99 $203.96
19-103-546 CPU AMD 64 |4400+ ATHLON X2 939P RT
(Serial#: 1340217J50401) 1 $497.00 $497.00
For Retail AMD processor, please call 408 749-3060 for service after first 30 days. For OEM AMD processor, we will service for 30 days only. Please verify the Processor matches your order Prior To installation. IMPORTANT: Always pack your CPU well for return. We will refuse your RMA if we received it as DAMAGED!
Subtotal $1,419.38
Tax $0.00
Shipping and Handling charge $60.60
Amount Paid $1,479.98
Im waiting for a bfg 7800gtx oc to get back in stock so i can buy it. Then later down the road when the prices of these cards drop, ill get another one to complete my system. Ill be playing some good games till then thou.
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