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21. December 2005 @ 15:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok some one gave me a pc about a 99 model they say the motherboard is fried ???? how do i know this??? the fan fell off and the proccessor is all white i wonder if the proccessor is junk the mother looks good. i need a pc expert on this i wonder how much a motherboard will run me??????it has amd anthlon. i have no way
of telling ghz or mhz there is numbers on it

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21. December 2005 @ 17:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the processor is white because it has heat-conductive grease on it to transfer heat from the processor to the fan. about testing the mobo, connect the fan back to the processor, and try turning it on first.

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the problem is i cant hook up the fan on the cpu .on the side there is a plastic tab piece broken off. thats why the fan fell off . plus the fan wires are messed up . where the cpu is it holds in that white plastic piece that tab is broken off ?is there any other way to find out if the mother board is any good .if i do put new fan in and figure out a way to hold it in place.>and then plug in HOW WILL I TELL THE MOBO IS JUNK????????

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Unless your motherboard has 4 holes at the corners of where the processor goes so you can use some kind of bolt-on heat sink, your mobo is f'd up. new Athlon (K7 type) motherboards can be had for $30-70. Whether the new board fits depends on whether the original case is a standard ATX or Micro ATX or if it is a proprietary design. What brand computer do you have? Is there a model number? If it's home built or built at a PC shop, you should be all set. If it's a Dell or something like that, you may have to get a replacement motherboard from the manufacturer.

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22. December 2005 @ 05:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Take some photos of the board, or list the boards ID numbers here. Usually they are found around the CPU, or near/between the PCI slots.


As far as telling what AMD proc it is, there should be a black label on it...it will have a long string of numbers. You can check AMD's website on what to look for to identify it. Some of the older CPUs from AMD have the number stamped on the core's die, top right hand corner. Ex: my 1600/1700 are stamped on the die, my 1800s and 3000 are on a label.

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OK the person who owned this (built pc) said the fan and the thing underneath fell off wich fried the motherboard .it was holded on each side of the cpu. the motherboard does have 4 holes around the cpu.but that aint the way it was holded on i look inside and see a gold thing and it says T-BIRD AMD K-7 .i have no idea who makes the case.she also said the power supply is no good she said it smokes i dont see anything burnt inside. i wonder what happened /? can i get a cheap mobo the same as this one
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Ok, they built the PC themselves. So far, so good. That means no proprietary parts. Now it is most likely either ATX sized motherboard (has AGP slot and ~5 PCI card slots), or it is mini-ATX (Videocard slot and 3 PCI card slots). Go to newegg and check out Socket A motherboards http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Manufactory=&Proper...
you are going to need another processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Manufactory=1028&Pr...
and a power supply. since you are going to need a new mobo and processor, you should probably upgrade to an AMD64. It will bolt right in, inplace of the existing motherboard and processor. will only cost you maybe $30 more, and will be much better.

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here is the deal i want a motherboard that will hold 164 pin ram i think like the ones thatt are in there so i guess old mobo is junk????????????? where can i get a cheaper cpu i would mind say 1.0ghz this pc is going to be for the kids i want to do this as cheap as possible

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MSI motherboard with 2.93Ghz Celeron D processor $59.99 AR. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details....
Will require 184 pin memory. Can usually find 512MB stick for ~$30

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thanks alot will this one work in mine
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22. December 2005 @ 19:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm not positive because I don't know the exact case you have, but I'm 99% sure it will. dont forget to pick up a new power supply.

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power supply quote where????????????
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23. December 2005 @ 06:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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she also said the power supply is no good she said it smokes i dont see anything burnt inside. i wonder what happened /?

acceptable power supply for your low end system: Coolmax 400w http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details....
Sparkle 300w http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103428
for that matter, you could probably get away with some cheapo no name brand, but you're better off getting something decent so it doesn't short out and fry your new mobo and CPU.

memory 512MB 184 pin DDR. You said your memory was 164 pin, but SDRAM is 168 pin, and DDR is 184 pin, so I'm not sure what you really have, but that MSI bundle I recommended requires 184 pin DDR. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820223009

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thankx for everthing >trgrpullr ok one more ??????? is there a better way to hold the (i belive it is the heat sink then fan.)the way the old one is with metal clip on each side of cpu. the plastic tab broke off then fan fell off and caused this problem one more ? how in the world do i find out who made this case? so i know for sure this motherboard that you told me will fit for sure. 3rd will the wires and plugs for the power button and speaker match up to the new mobo 4th will there be a new metal plate that will hold in the motherboard on the back of pc

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1) The Pentium (and Celeron) use a different retention than the Athlon system you used to have, it's easier to install and less likely to break something.
2)Don't worry about who made the case. In the EXTREMELY unlikely event that it does not fit a mATX motherboard, you'd be better off getting a cheap case for ~$20 than trying to get some obsolete motherboard that would fit the case you have.
3) The buttons and speakers should plug in, but you'll have to look at the pinouts on the motherboard.
4)Yes.

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thankx again for all your help. so yo say that the buttons and speaker wire should line up. i hope this mobo will fit this case.i do have 184 pin ram lying around from my pc.all i need is a fan.
heres the big ? i am going to put in a maxtor 40 gb hard drive from my (compaq)i upgaded to 200gb.the lady took the hard drive out because of info on it. ok when i get this all together i would think i have to reformat?even tho the 40 has xp on it.how do i do this ??????????





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You MIGHT not have to reformat it, but because all your hardware is different than the Compaq you took the drive from, at the very least you will probably repair the installation of XP. Put in your xp disc and it will show you an option for repair. However, you would be better off doing a fresh install.

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