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Can only rip at 2x in DVD Decrypter please help!!
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flex5150
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16. March 2003 @ 20:03 |
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I somehow can only rip at 2x in DVD decryptor.
I have tried a 8x and a 16x DVD-rom
It seems to stay still.
could it possibly be a type of DVD-rom that I need?
I've got a very fast computer so that shouldn't be the problem.
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flex5150
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17. March 2003 @ 22:55 |
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if anyone can help that would be great...
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HomerJ
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18. March 2003 @ 09:38 |
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flex5150,
I'm afraid most modern DVD drives can only rip at X2.
I say "modern" because, beleive it or not, most drives more than a couple of years old can rip faster.
How's this I hear you cry ? surely newer hardware is always faster than old. Well, yes, that is usually true, until someone comes along and says they want to slow things down, and this has what has happened. (Can't remember who, sorry) but, all new DVD drives are deliberatly slowed down these days. X2 is the best you can expect.
HomerJ
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flex5150
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18. March 2003 @ 11:42 |
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wait this is really confusing.
I can't understand why that would be the case.
So your saying that only older DVD-rom drives work at higher the 2x in ripping speeds?
Your not joking with me are you? If you aren't backup that info with some evidence.
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Shoey
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18. March 2003 @ 12:35 |
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Quote:
I'm afraid most modern DVD drives can only rip at X2
This isn't true m8. Some dvd-roms have the ability to rip dvd's quite fast. My LiteON LTD 165H can rip a dvd at 11x (ave.). Use a tool called DVD Speed to determine how fast your dvd-rom can rip a dvd. Below is a dvd speed test using the movie "A Time To Kill" (Side A).
Nero DVD Speed
18 March 2003 - 11:58:53
Drive information
Vendor JLMS
Product XJ-HD165H
Firmware Version CH11
Disc information
Type DVD-Video
Length 3.82 GB
Test results
Transfer rate
Average 11.35 X
Start 2.42 X
End 13.46 X
Reading type CAV
Seek Times
Random Seek 96 ms
1/3 Seek 103 ms
Full Seek 167 ms
CPU usage
1X 5 %
Max Speed 9 %
Interface
Burst Rate 19.05 MB/s
Spin Up/Down Time
Spin Up Time N/A
Spin Down Time 3.88 sec
Disc Eject Time 1.43 sec
Disc Load Time 1.26 sec
Disc Recognition Time 15.37 sec
DVD Speed tool: http://www.cdspeed2000.com/go.php3?link=dvdspeed.html
Shoey ~O-O~
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msb5150
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18. March 2003 @ 12:47 |
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I must disagree with Shoey, I believe the MPAA(or something similar) pressured dvd-rom makers with restrictions. As a results all dvd-roms now sold with factory bios' are region locked to the territory they come from and are limited to 2X speed when a dvd with css is inserted, 2X works fine with movies but is shit form ripping, either get an older drive or just get used to it, it isn't going to be getting any better.
This is an amazingly imformative site with many places to find information and help. Please support it.
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HomerJ
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18. March 2003 @ 12:50 |
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I did use a generalisation, but, to quote
"CDRInfo.com has a review of Pioneer's latest DVD writer, Pioneer A05.
Their review findings weren't very surprising, only real cons in the drive were in copy-protected audio extraction and replication, which shouldn't be a big deal for most of the users anyway.
Only real annoyance is the fact that is happening secretly around the world nowadays -- virtually all new DVD drives, manufactured in 2002, are capped so that the DVD ripping can be done only at max 2x speed. Thanks to MPAA.. This holds true for virtually all major brand drives built in this year -- so, if you go and buy a DVD writer, don't throw your good olde DVD-ROM out of the window just yet, if you don't want to spend half an hour ripping a movie. But the drive itself seems to be rather nice, supporting 4x DVD-R burning (that's around 15mins per full DVD-R disc for you, who don't know anything about DVD writing speeds) and 2x DVD-RW burning."
for the full and total review checkout the site :-
http://cd-rw.org/news/archive/3537.cfm
HomerJ
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Shoey
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18. March 2003 @ 12:55 |
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Were NOT talkin' about region free or region locked dvd-roms. The topic is why flex5150 dvd-rom rips at 2x. My Toshiba SD-M1502 only rips about 2x-3x (Ave.)If your dvd-rom is region locked, you can find firmware to make the dvd-rom "region free". If you wan't to rip dvd's at slowpoke speed, that's up to you m8. Read these test results to backup what I'm saying.
Proof in da' puddin'
http://www.cdspeed2000.com/go.php3?link=dvdresults.php3
Shoey ~O-O~
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HomerJ
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18. March 2003 @ 13:30 |
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Shoey,
You're missing the point here. It's not about "region locked devices" (which, once "locked" can't be unlocked)
I'm talking about drives that are about 18 months old or newer. The site you pointed to is a bit out of date.
I stand by earlier statement. Modern DVD drives are locked at X2. Don't forget, it can take some time for devices to work their way through the system. A drive could have been manufactured 2 yrs ago, and still be "new" on the shelf.
HomerJ
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Shoey
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18. March 2003 @ 13:46 |
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The Litey LTD 166S model is fairly new and I can purchase right now and have the dvd-rom at my doorstep tomorrow. I'm not disputing the MPAA issue, I'm simply saying the ability to rip dvd's is hardware dependent. Some are slow,some are in between, some are blazin' fast. Next year? I dunno...
Shoey
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HomerJ
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18. March 2003 @ 14:09 |
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Shoey,
I won't dispute your point on your specific drive, I guess you're lucky in getting one of the few drives that still read at a fast speed.
The information I have available to me says manufacturers are having their arms twisted to slow things down.
The general advice to people should be :-
Before buying a new DVD drive, check it's ripping speed, not all drives are equal (and they are getting less equal by the day)
And, (I know I shouldn't start a sentance that way) the point was made by flex510, about speed. What drives are you using ??
HomerJ
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flex5150
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18. March 2003 @ 23:10 |
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This shines the lite.
I have actually seen some cracked versions of firmware that remove the region (make it region free).
If this is the case would that remove the limitations of the drive? or is it the hardware (the actual drive) that controls this limitation and not the firmware?
I am currently using a pacific digital 16x
and a dvr-104. I find it stays in the 2x-3x range when ripping.
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Shoey
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18. March 2003 @ 23:13 |
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flex5150,
The answer to your question is no. If you wan't to rip dvd movies to your hd at 11-12x, order the LiteON LTD 163/165/166 before it's too late.
Shoey
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awer25
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23. March 2003 @ 19:06 |
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I've had my HP 200e ripping around 7x or 8x (ave) w/ DVD Decrypter
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epereira
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24. March 2003 @ 11:31 |
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I had the same problem. I checked my Secondary IDE settings and found out that the DVD drive was set to "PIO mode" instead of Ultra-DMA. Delete the Secondary IDE controller, reboot and the DVD drive gets automatically reset to Ultra-DMA mode and now I rip consistently at 4x-7x speed.
Good luck!
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Shoey
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24. March 2003 @ 13:13 |
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Just got my LiteON LTD 166 DVD-Rom for my secondary pc. I'm rippin' dvd's at 11-12x and after updating firmware, this drive can read ALL formats (yipee).
Shoey
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Deznaj
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30. March 2003 @ 02:22 |
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My Pioneer 106S ripped at a maximum speed of 1,6x... A few weeks ago it kicked the bucket.
Now, after viewing many reviews on the internet, I have bought a Toshiba SD-M1702 and I can rip at a maximum of 9x! It does depend on the DVD, if it is heavily scratched it rips at about 4x but still...
So I think the story that all modern DVD-drives have restrictions is bull...no offence!!! You just have to buy a good brand. So check the internet before you buy...
At first I wanted another Pioneer because of the sleek slot-in feature, but when I looked at the preformance and there the Toshiba was plain kick-ass...although it does look like crap!!!
Greetz Deznaj
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30. March 2003 @ 03:11 |
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First steps always when you are surprised by the slow ripping speed are these:
-make sure your drive is running at DMA mode (same for DVD drive and HDD obviously)
-if you get a message with DVD Decrypter stating that your drive is locked to specific region and you're ripping a different region disc, try to update your drive to RPC-1 firmware
If you get pretty much exactly 2.00x ripping speeds, (1.9 - 2.1) you can be pretty sure that your drive's DVD-Video reading speed has been capped to 2.00x. There's currently pretty much no way to get past this, sorry, get a new drive.
If your drive refuses to get to DMA mode, your Windows 2k/XP is playing with you again -- Windows every now and then "decides" that your drive is crap and needs to run at PIO, whatever you do. Try this trick __ONLY IF YOU REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING__ and if you run 2k or XP, it works on both:
http://dvdxcopy.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/20775
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