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2. January 2006 @ 20:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Does anybody know of any programs that normalize MP3s and keep it that way forever?

Like I use MP3Gain, but if I move the file to say another folder or to my MP3 Player, it reverts back to the default volume.

I normalize because most my songs have different volume. ( R&B, Rap, Punk, Hip-Hop ) and its annoying having to switch back and forth the volumes on my MP3.

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3. January 2006 @ 01:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Player only normalizes mp3's on the fly, it doesn't change the file in any way, so it will be on it's original volume if you move to your mp3 player. Only way to normalize your mp3's permanently is encodeing them all over again. You can do it with almost ever mp3 encoding software there is. Even cd-burner softwares have this option.
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3. January 2006 @ 09:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I really don't recommend normalizing. It severly changes the structure of the original song, and the quality is lowered by normalzing. I would never use i in a million years. Adjusting a volume knob up and down a little really isn't that big of a deal...

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3. January 2006 @ 10:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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I really don't recommend normalizing. It severly changes the structure of the original song, and the quality is lowered by normalzing.
True. But it's quite annoing to change the volume after every song. Maybe there's mp3 players that normalize the output.
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3. January 2006 @ 14:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So which re-coder do you guys recommending so I can make all my songs have the same volume? I tried DBPoweramp and I didn't notice much of a difference.

Can you guys give me perhaps a step by step if not too much?
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3. January 2006 @ 17:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well I wouldn't suggest re-coding (called transcoding) anything. Anytime you convert a lossy format to another lossy format (even if its the same format, such as mp3 > mp3), there is major quality loss. If you want to recreate your compressed albums, start from the original CD.

I use EAC (exact audio copy) to rip my CDs. It is free and hands down, 100% the best ripper there is. Nothing comes close to its extensive error correction and ripping control to ensure a 100% accurate rip. When used with the external LAME mp3 encoder at 192 VBR (variable bitrate) settings, you will get about the best quality you can from mp3s.

Like I said, I use EAC for all my albums, and they all seem to stay about the same volume level, with the exception of classical music due to hits huge dynamic range. But give EAC a try, it has a normalizing feature built into it. We have a guide here with step-by-step instructions on how to setup and use EAC:

http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/mydeneaclame.cfm

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For the best quality mp3s use EAC (exact audio copy) to rip your audio CDs and LAME to encode them. Follow this guide:
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/mydeneaclame.cfm
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3. January 2006 @ 18:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
But some of my songs are downloaded, what could I do with that?

And I use DBPowerAmp Audio CD to rip some of my CDs such as Michael Jacksons Number Ones ( Awesome CD! )
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3. January 2006 @ 18:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dBPowerAMP music converter is a very good utility, but EAC is still the best ripper. Check it out, you won't be disappointed.

About downloaded albums, well, like I said, if you transcode them, it really will lose quality. In my opinion a difference in volume is no where near worth losing that much quality. You can decompress them to WAVE format, which is uncompressed so you won't lose quality. But those are pretty big filesizes (figure ~600MB per album). Or you could convert them to a lossless format, such as FLAC.

"I have no particular talent. I am merely inquisitive" - Albert Einstein

For the best quality mp3s use EAC (exact audio copy) to rip your audio CDs and LAME to encode them. Follow this guide:
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/mydeneaclame.cfm
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4. January 2006 @ 15:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't mind losing some quality because I will barely notice it, ( I'm pretty deaf, haha, couldn't tell from 56KBP to 128KBP )

But is there any like MP3Gain that will include a recode option? Dang, MP3Gain should have an option that includes that.

I will try EAC.

And by the way, if I rip the song to my computer, and change the KBPS to for example 56 and then set it back to like 128 will I lose quality?
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4. January 2006 @ 17:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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And by the way, if I rip the song to my computer, and change the KBPS to for example 56 and then set it back to like 128 will I lose quality?
huh? you mean if you rip at 56 kpbs then re-encode them at 128???

"I have no particular talent. I am merely inquisitive" - Albert Einstein

For the best quality mp3s use EAC (exact audio copy) to rip your audio CDs and LAME to encode them. Follow this guide:
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/mydeneaclame.cfm
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4. January 2006 @ 19:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes, because if I rip at lower bitrates, it's almost instantly done.
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4. January 2006 @ 20:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Like I use MP3Gain, but if I move the file to say another folder or to my MP3 Player, it reverts back to the default volume.
I don't understand how this is happening to you. I've been using MP3Gain for a little while now, & since reading this I've been experimenting with it. I don't have any problems with it at all. If you want all your albums to be at the same volume level you would use it in the "Album Gain" mode. This will make all your albums the same volume yet maintain the difference(in volume)between 2 different files with-in the same album. I'm trying my hardest to make that sound logical. Sorry!!

By the way. Mikey Jackson!!!!! Oh Man!!!!
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[iD]EG6
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5. January 2006 @ 17:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Are you using different options or anything?

Because whenever I use MP3Gain, and move the music file somewhere and re-analyse it, it's a different volume :(
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