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9. January 2006 @ 02:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok this is weird. I have a panasonic floppy drive installed in the comp in my sig. I have the bios set to seek and the bios find it's upon booting up. Windows see it too. The weird thing is no matter what disk i put in windows say the disk is not inserted....try again. The weird thing is when I try to access the disk it lights and appears to be working the disk, but then the error message appears from windows. Any ideas?

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9. January 2006 @ 03:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
has this always happened or just recently?

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9. January 2006 @ 03:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
mnake sure youve got the floppy cable the correct way round and the power lead is on securely.

my pc picks up the floppy drive whether theres power to it or not and the light will still come on when you try to access it but it wont work properly without the power

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9. January 2006 @ 05:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes the floppy always worked good. I have no idea whats wrong. Im gonna try a different floppy cable and hopefully this will solve the problem.:>


<eidted for typos..ozzy214:>>

epox mobo EP-9NPAJ
amd 3700+ san diego core oc to 2.50
antec true power 430 watt dual +12 volt rails @ 18 amps each
bfg geforce 6800 gt oc edition
dragon case
2 x 512 DUAL CHANNEL ELIXOR RAM
Ibm P260 dvi & vga 21 inch crt monitor 1600 x 1200 @ 85 htz Oh yeah!!

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9. January 2006 @ 06:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Update

Sypher explain this to me please. I tried two different cables. The kind where ya could hook two floppies to one port. Nothing right? Well I used single cable and now it work's. Any ideas?

The funny thing is the mobo manufacter provided a dual cable.:>

epox mobo EP-9NPAJ
amd 3700+ san diego core oc to 2.50
antec true power 430 watt dual +12 volt rails @ 18 amps each
bfg geforce 6800 gt oc edition
dragon case
2 x 512 DUAL CHANNEL ELIXOR RAM
Ibm P260 dvi & vga 21 inch crt monitor 1600 x 1200 @ 85 htz Oh yeah!!
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9. January 2006 @ 06:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
possible break in the wire for the read signal. had that happen on a parallel port on a p1 that went from motherboard to back of case. wouldn't print but changed the cable & it did. 1 of the mysteries of computing!!
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9. January 2006 @ 06:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nah ddp. I tried two different dual cables and same thing. Only the single cable would work. Any ideas?:>

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amd 3700+ san diego core oc to 2.50
antec true power 430 watt dual +12 volt rails @ 18 amps each
bfg geforce 6800 gt oc edition
dragon case
2 x 512 DUAL CHANNEL ELIXOR RAM
Ibm P260 dvi & vga 21 inch crt monitor 1600 x 1200 @ 85 htz Oh yeah!!
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9. January 2006 @ 07:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
does the single cable have a split at 1 end?
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9. January 2006 @ 07:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes....why? You mean where the cable is split and braided kinda?

epox mobo EP-9NPAJ
amd 3700+ san diego core oc to 2.50
antec true power 430 watt dual +12 volt rails @ 18 amps each
bfg geforce 6800 gt oc edition
dragon case
2 x 512 DUAL CHANNEL ELIXOR RAM
Ibm P260 dvi & vga 21 inch crt monitor 1600 x 1200 @ 85 htz Oh yeah!!
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9. January 2006 @ 07:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes that 1. if didn't have that split & twist, that could have explained why it work & the dual connector cables didn't work.

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9. January 2006 @ 11:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nope the dual cables have the twist also. This is really weird. Unless my epox board only supports one floppy. But then why give me a dual connector? I need the dual to work cause the single is too short.:>

epox mobo EP-9NPAJ
amd 3700+ san diego core oc to 2.50
antec true power 430 watt dual +12 volt rails @ 18 amps each
bfg geforce 6800 gt oc edition
dragon case
2 x 512 DUAL CHANNEL ELIXOR RAM
Ibm P260 dvi & vga 21 inch crt monitor 1600 x 1200 @ 85 htz Oh yeah!!
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9. January 2006 @ 12:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
you have the drive at the end of the dual cable? is the single identical wiring wise to the dual except for the extra connectors?
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9. January 2006 @ 12:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes at the end. And yes the wiring looks the same. This is weird. Maybe there is a bug with the board. I just tried clearing cmos and resetting my settings. I dont get it. Unless the mobo only works with particular brands of floppies.

epox mobo EP-9NPAJ
amd 3700+ san diego core oc to 2.50
antec true power 430 watt dual +12 volt rails @ 18 amps each
bfg geforce 6800 gt oc edition
dragon case
2 x 512 DUAL CHANNEL ELIXOR RAM
Ibm P260 dvi & vga 21 inch crt monitor 1600 x 1200 @ 85 htz Oh yeah!!
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9. January 2006 @ 13:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
floppies are universal
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9. January 2006 @ 13:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well I took a known working one out of a running comp. It worked for ten seconds and then stopped. Now it wont even work in the original comp. Just great. Maybe thos board is frying the floppy or something. I been installing when the power is shut down. SO who knows.:>

epox mobo EP-9NPAJ
amd 3700+ san diego core oc to 2.50
antec true power 430 watt dual +12 volt rails @ 18 amps each
bfg geforce 6800 gt oc edition
dragon case
2 x 512 DUAL CHANNEL ELIXOR RAM
Ibm P260 dvi & vga 21 inch crt monitor 1600 x 1200 @ 85 htz Oh yeah!!
ddp
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9. January 2006 @ 16:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
power shut down in what way as should either switch off on back side or disconnect the power cable as still might be power going thru
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9. January 2006 @ 17:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Switch on back of psu shut down. Plus I have a keyboard that lights up. So as soon as I see the lights go out the capacitors are drained. Oh well live and learn.:>

epox mobo EP-9NPAJ
amd 3700+ san diego core oc to 2.50
antec true power 430 watt dual +12 volt rails @ 18 amps each
bfg geforce 6800 gt oc edition
dragon case
2 x 512 DUAL CHANNEL ELIXOR RAM
Ibm P260 dvi & vga 21 inch crt monitor 1600 x 1200 @ 85 htz Oh yeah!!
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9. January 2006 @ 22:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Another thing that may help in the learning process, is that it's not necessary to set your BIOS to "seek" the floppy during startup. All that does is determine if the floppy is a 40 or 80 track disk, or reports if there is an error with the drive. Having that option set, which could be argued, actually slows the system down unless you require the floppy drive as a main boot device. Some say that setting allows your hard disk time to spin up properly before the system starts reading the boot information...but today's drives startup plenty fast, and don't require any significant wait period.

Just set the standard options as 1.44..should be all ya need. :)

For reference:
http://www.roger.id.au/tweaks/BIOS/biosfeaturessetup.php#8

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10. January 2006 @ 06:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ozzy214,

Since we are speculating, did you try both connectors of the dual cable to see if the ?shortest distance to the M/B connector? of the two worked? As in the old day; (A: Drive and B: Drive,) dual floppy cable? Just curious.

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10. January 2006 @ 06:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yup. I did try both ends of the cable. I think I must have fried the floppy or something. I ordered some off of ebay and see what happens. Thanks to all who tried to help. Much appreciated.:>

epox mobo EP-9NPAJ
amd 3700+ san diego core oc to 2.50
antec true power 430 watt dual +12 volt rails @ 18 amps each
bfg geforce 6800 gt oc edition
dragon case
2 x 512 DUAL CHANNEL ELIXOR RAM
Ibm P260 dvi & vga 21 inch crt monitor 1600 x 1200 @ 85 htz Oh yeah!!
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10. January 2006 @ 08:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is there any way to take a floppy apart to test and fix it. Im desperate. I need this damn thing so I set up windows 98 se on a customers comp.:>

epox mobo EP-9NPAJ
amd 3700+ san diego core oc to 2.50
antec true power 430 watt dual +12 volt rails @ 18 amps each
bfg geforce 6800 gt oc edition
dragon case
2 x 512 DUAL CHANNEL ELIXOR RAM
Ibm P260 dvi & vga 21 inch crt monitor 1600 x 1200 @ 85 htz Oh yeah!!
ScubaBud
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10. January 2006 @ 10:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Some suggestions:

Do you have an external HDD or USB Memory stick? Can you get into your Bios and will it allow either of these external devices to boot from? Can you place your friends HDD into your PC as a slave and load the 98se cab files onto it? Can you create a bootable CD to load your cab files?

It's been a while since I worked with Windows 98se but I know ddp is an expert with this and I'm sure he could help you with it. PM him and see if he can give you a tip.

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11. January 2006 @ 08:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ozzy, sent you a pm
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11. January 2006 @ 08:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yup got it thank you and I sent ya one too:>

epox mobo EP-9NPAJ
amd 3700+ san diego core oc to 2.50
antec true power 430 watt dual +12 volt rails @ 18 amps each
bfg geforce 6800 gt oc edition
dragon case
2 x 512 DUAL CHANNEL ELIXOR RAM
Ibm P260 dvi & vga 21 inch crt monitor 1600 x 1200 @ 85 htz Oh yeah!!
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11. January 2006 @ 11:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You can create a simple DOS boot CD as well. I use this image here:

http://www.thetechguide.com/howto/winmebootcd.html

I just burn the image to the CD as instructed. When you boot from this CD, your prompt will be A:> after it's done. (note, don't select to install Windows ME unless it's used to create a full ME installation CD - you can modify the start menu to exclude that option) This image, when burned as instructed, uses the CD drive as the floppy drive (emulated).

Then, you will see on your screen what your CD drive letter will be. Choose to change to your drive letter, insert the Windows 98 CD, and then type in 'setup' (without quotes of course).

Good Luck. This is what I use to install 95/98 and ME.

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