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ramvarra
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_ 		31. March 2003 @ 11:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am trying to create a DVD from selective portions of a movie. I was able to get the portions I want from the ripped DVD using VOBEDIT demux option. It so happens that the pieces I want has distinct VOB CELL ID, hence the VOBEDIT's demux with CellID option seperate the piece I need. I now have several of these VOB clips (about 100Mb-200Mb each) from a few DVDs I own and now I would like to create a DVD out of these VOBs so that I can play these on a stand-alone player (A master menu would be nice to have).

I tried encoding these with TMPGEnc (DVD/NTSC Template) and author them using Pinnacle Studio 8.5, but I do not like the result - The encoding process seem to increase the file sizes quite a bit (50% to 100%), and final quality is not as good as the original VOB file.

I appreciate any pointers on how I can create a DVD-Video disk from the VOB files without having to encode them again.

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_ 		31. March 2003 @ 12:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Software called IFOedit could help you. Download here:

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd-r_tools/ifoedit.cfm

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ramvarra
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_ 		1. April 2003 @ 12:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Paul - Thanks for the suggestion. I tried IFOEdit but could not figure out how to author a new DVD from just the VOB files. The Author DVD menu option looks for .m2v mpeg stream files and audio file. I could not figure out how to get IFOEdit to take the VOB files I have and create a VIDEO_TS structure for burning a DVD. I would appreciate if you can help me with any pointers to a guide on this.

Thx - ram
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kof33
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_ 		1. April 2003 @ 20:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You can use IFO edit and VOB edit.

You take all your VOB files and join clips ..once you have the master set of VOB files you open it in ifo edit and create a new set of ifo's for it.

http://ifoedit.wh.fr0zen.com/joinclip.html

If you want a menu and all that your going to need a seperate program.
SPRUCEUP or MAESTRO or what everyone recommends but both arent that user freindly and your gonna have to trick your way into doing what you want it to do.
If you can get a hold of one of those do a search for a guide on how to use them.

(spruce up is the easiest of the 2 IMO)
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_ 		2. April 2003 @ 10:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Check out Ulead DVD MovieFactory2 (www.ulead.com) you can import VOB files to edit them or create menu's and then it will create the needed files for you to burn. You can use the burn software of your choice or burn right from the program itself.
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ramvarra
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_ 		3. April 2003 @ 13:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the suggestions.

I tried the ULead MovieFactory2 trial version and ran into 2 problems. The import video option warned that it does not support AC3 audio in my VOB files(confirmed by no sound when I do preview play). I really want to keep the original AC3 sound and do not like to demux to WAV and souround downmix. Not sure if this is a limitation in the trial version only or if this a the actual product limitation of MovieFactory2.

I am still trying the IFOEDIT create IFO option. Will post later how this works out.
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_ 		6. April 2003 @ 15:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
try
Dazzle DVD Complete.

Works very nicely for what your doing and lets you add extras, animated chapter menus, put in chapter points and also will re-encode video to make it dvd compliant...

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T2K
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_ 		7. April 2003 @ 07:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i dont think dazzle's dvd complete allows you to import vob's. I enjoy the software just that i get a mux error when building disk image. Im going to try for the delux edition and see if that gives me more options to build final project =)
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kof33
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_ 		7. April 2003 @ 14:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Dazzle didnt accept much of anythign and was constantly freezing.

Ulead doesnt accept ac3 also making it useless.

The best process is using spruce.
Although spruce still sucks and cant handle most ac3 files anyways.

Do this...

demux your VOBs load JUST the movie file into spruce edit and make menus as you wish..Then when your done export the tirle set only... Take the VOB you really want to use and name and replace the dummy file.
Youll get error messages if burning in nero but its worked for me everytime....

Spruce is horrible at making menus though no matter what you do.
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ramvarra
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_ 		8. April 2003 @ 11:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have some good results.

First of all, I was wrong about DVD Movie Factory2, even though the preview does not play the AC3 sound, that actual DVD files (VOBs) it creates still have AC3 sound. Once I burned them I was able to play the AC3 tracks on my standalone player in full glory of 5.1 surround.

One thing I figured out was I just can not cut pieces out of VOBs from several DVDs and import them into DVD MovieFactory2. I think the DVD MF2 and the DVD Players expect valid sequencing of VOB/CEll ids and they do not handle random order of VOB/CELL ids that you end up if you are mixing clips from multiple DVDS.

So instead, I used VOBEdit to seperate Video and AC3 streams into seperate files and remuxed them using TMGEnc (using MPEG Tools). This created an .mpg file that had exact original audio/video streams. I then added them into DVD MF2, and it worked like a charm (with menus etc).

Overall MF2 worked great... I am going to buy it now...

Thanks for all the help I got here.

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