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Who burns at 16X?
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h2ouup2
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5. February 2006 @ 10:29 |
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My TY's come out better at 8X than 4X but it could be due to my firmware.
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dr_no
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5. February 2006 @ 11:30 |
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I did some experimenting myself at different speeds and pretty much end up burning at 8X using only TY 8X +R and Verbs 8X and 16X +R. Matter of fact did some 16X overburning on those TY and got a 100% scan on it, at closer look though the PIE seemed a bit higher then at 12X and more so then at 8X. So just burning at 8X gives me the best of both worlds speed and quality.
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5. February 2006 @ 20:55 |
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I use only Maxell DVD+R 8x and Princo Corp. 4x dvd's.
i assume when you say that you ran nero's cd/dvd speed you didn't check for PIE/PIF quality scores...because i can ALMOST gurantee that you will NOT get 100% scores using Princo Corp. 4x dvds..NO MATTER HOW FAST OR SLOW YOU BURNED THEM...LOL
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
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5. February 2006 @ 22:13 |
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Maybe your right, but for my dvd's I always burned them at 4x and I dind't got one bad dvd in my life. I did test them with Nero cd/dvd speed and they are all perfect 100% and no damage data after 1 year... I use only Maxell DVD+R 8x and Princo Corp. 4x dvd's.
I don't think I would burn them faster even if I could.
Cya
I found this hard/impossible to believe. Evidently, I only used genuine 8X DVD+R Taiyo Yuden, 8X DVD+R Maxell (made in japan by Hitachi aka High Grade Maxell002) and 8X & 16X Verbatim "advanced azo" and I've scanned nearly every backups of mine and I've never seen any 100% on Quality Scores. So I found your statement to be a bit over exaggerated.
Is there any chance you can provide a screenshot with your 100% when scanning with Nero CD-DVD Speed from a year ago? or anything that you've recently burned would be fine?
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5. February 2006 @ 22:23 |
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hmmmm sounds abit fishy to me as well alkohol, ive burn with AZO verbatim or Ritek G05s and never got a 100, highest i ever got was 96. In reply to the thread title ill burn data as whatever the highest speed is(12x i think) but if its a game or movie ill burn at 4x
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5. February 2006 @ 22:31 |
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@Dude2099
I agree. It's just that I found flyboy04's statement/comment hard/impossible to believe. I've done tons of genuine YUDEN00T02 and the most I come across is 98%. Trust me when I said, it's impossible, I really mean it. I never burned beyond 8X, most of my burnings are done with 4X majority and 8X with 20% only. With that being said, I've never seen any 100% on Quality Scores when scanning with Nero CD-DVD Speed, regardless if it's genuine Taiyo Yuden, Maxell's High Grade by Hitachi (mij) or Verbatim "advanced azo".
So I was wondering how flyboy04 could come up with 100% even 1 year ago?
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Gringle
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5. February 2006 @ 23:25 |
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Steady on guys' whilst agreeing with the more experienced 'burners' think we're in danger of being a little too harsh, on flyboy.
His version of a 100% maybe unacceptable to others, we all have our own parameters.
I read an article a few weeks back, Taiwan business news, saying the major Taiwanese disc manufacturers; in order to cut production costs were going to merge products, for the lower-end of the DVD market. .ie. CMC and Riteck, and others, would make discs for each other 8x and below. (sorry I didn't link it)
So out went my Samsung/Toshiba 4x burner, and in came Pioneers 110D, and when my stock of genuine GO5s (which burn quite happily @8x) runs out... in come the Verbs' and TYs'
gringle.
El gringle..
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5. February 2006 @ 23:46 |
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@Gringle
i will have to agree with you there~ i'm not trying to flame the poor guy, i just had to mention the whole PIE/PIF thing in my reply regarding his Princo 4x dvds (because i HAVE used them in the past and i'm lucky to get over a 50% quality score on them now, that is assuming they even SCAN/PLAY properly...i'm being GENEROUS too with the 50% quality score..and even if i HAD some from 1 year ago, i wouldn't be surprised if they got a quality score of ZERO (0) once scanned NOW in the present day using nero's cd/dvd speed testing results~) :)
but, i DO agree with your comment about taking into consideration the "parameters" as to which he judges his scans by...that's what brought my attention to this thread, he "claimed" to use nero's cd-dvd/speed test to run a "quality test" on his discs, which gave him a 100% score...yes, there are diff. versions of nero's cd-dvd/speed (some older versions and the current up-to-date version), but i don't think the difference in versions of said program will result in ONE giving a poor quality disc a 100% score and the same disc a much lower score using a more recent version of the program~ :)
i think he meant the "scandisc" feature that he might have gotten a 100%, rather than the "disc quality" feature...hence, why i mentioned if he elected to choose to show PIE/PIF errors or not~ :)
i'm not here to argue, i agree with you Gringle~ :) but, it's quite depressing news that you have brought to our attention about the Taiwanese companies "merging" their manufacturing facilities to produce discs for each other to cut production costs...sad, but it WILL definitely affect the quality control in media across the board, coming out of Taiwan that is...whether it be CMC MAG or Ritek, with THAT information you have given me, i won't even consider Ritek anymore (btw, i've long since used up MY 500+ genuine Ridata RitekG05s...they were good while it lasted, i've had a LOT of success with them...but, much like you, i have only used Taiyo Yuden and Verbatim since) :)
btw, do you know if MCC (Mitsubishi Chemical Corp) in Taiwan will be affected by this "merger" production thing? or it was just CMC MAG and Ritek? thanks for the info
docTy~
docTy~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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Gringle
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6. February 2006 @ 01:15 |
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.re. the article Doc, the impression I got from it was all the major Taiwan manufacturers were involved. (I thought I'd see and read the responses either here, or in CDfreaks.) And didn't bother to bookmark it.
(dumb or what?)
.re. flyboy, I don't think for one second you, or anyone else, was trying to flame him.
I've read too much of your writings to know, you're nothing but constructive, same with Alkahol... :)
However his claims of 100% burns, and never having a coaster; did leave him open, to a little blood letting :)
Being a past master of the coaster, and trundled down the crap media road, I thought 'best leave him in peace.'
gringle :)
El gringle..
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flyboy04
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6. February 2006 @ 10:41 |
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Hey,
First of all I got 100%(98% to be exact, got 1 or 2 100%) on the maxell dvd's and 96% with the princo corp. dvd's. By the way, I never got in all the 50 dvd's I passed, one dead dvd in the princo spindle! It's hard to believe both those dvd's are good quality as far as im concerned. Maybe im just lucky or something but as of now, they still work perfectly. Anyway, I now use only Maxell dvd just because I know they are a little bit better and I have 200 of those! Im sorry If i was a little too fast with the number but Im just saying that Im getting better results burning at 4x! By the way, I got one dead dvd, and it was my fault, not the media nor the burner. Im sorry bcz I can't provide screenshot of quality test because my new computer doesn't have a compatible burner to test them and take a screenshot. But if I find someone with a compatible burner I'll take a screenshot for ya. ;-) But I just did a new test and the scan disk is 100% on both maxell and princo.
Cya
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6. February 2006 @ 11:00 |
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I will burn at 16X (if the media supports it) but only for myself. If I do a burn for other people, i will only burn at 4X (I have found others can have problems). Not as indepth a reply as others , but just my 2 cents worth.
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19. February 2006 @ 18:31 |
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hi,
if u burn at 1x with Sonys i see close to 100% and 100%s
peace,
j
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aabbccdd
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19. February 2006 @ 19:02 |
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how long does 1x take? 45 minutes
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geburuh
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21. February 2006 @ 04:42 |
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I use a NEC-jap zero burner ( can't spell Mitsubishi)
It supports 16 +/- disks. I have use Sony, TDK & Memorex.
I burn all at 16X & play on a new Sony player.
So far everything is great...........
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N2DVD
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21. February 2006 @ 21:58 |
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I can burn at 16x using my SONY DRX-810UL DL external burner, it actually defaults to 16x but can be made to burn slower when you insert blank before starting compression & burn process. Since I have had this burner it's burned at 16x to a SONY 8x -R with no burn or playback error though I don't recommend it.:p
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dane1
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22. February 2006 @ 18:59 |
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I've got 1 NEC 3540 and 2 Plextor SA716s
I only feed them TY media
always burn every movie at 8x. not slower, not faster..
Too slow causes problems with some burners
too fast and yer asking for problems
NOTE to guy above somehwher. just becasuse You did not get a coaster does NOT mean you burned the movie well. It just means it did not fail TOTALLY. But it could Be FULL of errors that you don't know about but as the media gets older you WILL find out a lot sooner than if you burned at 8x.
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geburuh
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23. February 2006 @ 04:30 |
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To dane 1
If a disk is good at 16X when it is burned why do you think it may be full of errors that will show up as the disk gets older????
I know that is happening to my body but my disks I am not so sure..........
h
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expresso
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23. February 2006 @ 18:58 |
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i cant belieave anyone who burns at 1x - would take hours for one dvd -
if you keep your system clean and running good and use good dvds and burner - you shouldnt have any problems burning at 8x or more
i have a nec2500 burner 8X - i never touched it since i got it 3 years ago - i use ritek ridata - i think R03 and work great all the time -- every now and then - i do run into a bad disc - but i cant blame the dvds -- since i am always browsing and using the computer as i burn -
i burn at 8x - and i check it with dvdinfo pro and 99% come out great -
everyone's system may act different and i always use DVD+ discs
they work the best for me and work in all the dvd players there are used on after - if anyone uses the same burner and different discs - let me know how they work and what kind they are
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aabbccdd
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23. February 2006 @ 19:57 |
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expresso, i use the dash format with great success they play in all the standalone decks i have tryed them in (100) plus decks , i use CloneDVD 2 with AnyDVD which is a great program using Taiyo Yuden media
are you booktyping your plus format dvds to DVD-ROM? if you arent thats def. the way to go
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expresso
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24. February 2006 @ 07:04 |
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hi - i really dont know if its booktyped or not - to be honest :)
i normally use shrink to downsize it -- i only like to keep the main movie -- unless it all fits on one dvd with no compression - if shrink booktypes it on its own - but i dont have a problem with the discs not playing on any dvd players - i just use the + discs - i like them better and they are faster - and all work -- i also use clonedvd2 and AnyDVD
which work great - sometimes i use clonedvd2 to rip it and compress it
but i normally i use shrink - unless sometimes if the dvd is in bad shape - i could use dvdfab or something else and then shrink it once its encoded on my hard drive - i like the new dvd rip with AnyDVD - i hear it suppose to repair bad dvds when it rips it -- sounds good -
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