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Is my TDK TTH02 Media Fake?
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Solidus90
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17. March 2006 @ 22:12 |
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Solidus90
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17. March 2006 @ 22:18 |
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Oh btw I should mention that I noticed the dye is purple, but on supermediastore it shows it as blue...
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18. March 2006 @ 04:03 |
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Doesen't look fake to me. Have a look at the - Games stuttering and skipping or just booting up? link in my sig regarding media.
-Mike
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Solidus90
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18. March 2006 @ 12:05 |
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Nope games seem fine. But how would I know for SURE if its a fake?
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18. March 2006 @ 12:42 |
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I HIGHLY doubt Compusa would be selling fake media. Also, I really hope you didn't pay that much for the discs (you can get a 100 pack of TY for half that).
V9 PS2, flip top, SMD, DVDLoader
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DVD Shrink, DVD Decrypter, Nero This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 18. March 2006 @ 12:43
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nrk4594
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18. March 2006 @ 17:35 |
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I use these discs all the time. They work great. You should have no problems at all. Burn at 4x or slower (If your burner allows).
Do yourself a favor and buy them here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817131593
On sale for $29.99, compared to $79.99 at compusa.
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Solidus90
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18. March 2006 @ 17:51 |
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I got them for 29.99 because of an in store sale. Thanks guys! BTW are Taiyo Yudens that much better than these? How much better would u guys rate them?
And also, I saw so many TY on supermedia store that I dont know which ones to get, can anyone recommend me the BEST TY disks in packs of 100? As long as they arent like 60 bucks I'll get them next time. Thanks guys!
A link to them would be highly appriciated.
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18. March 2006 @ 18:27 |
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79.99? that's whack
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18. March 2006 @ 20:54 |
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Yeah you got ripped off hard core. I personally fell TDK's own branded media is very overrated. It's not in the same area code as Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim. I've talked to countless people who've had issues with TDK's MIJ media. Most of the problems went away when they switched to Taiyo Yuden. I've burnen 150+ PS2 games to TYG02 (8x TY DVD-R's) and 30+ to Yuden000T02 (8x TY DVD+R's) with 0 coasters. 16x media gives mixed results with the PS2, it's best to stick to quality 4x or 8x media like Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim.
86. Q. Where can I find good deals on legit Taiyo Yuden's and Verbatim's?
A. http://www.supermediastore.com
Great List of Merchants locally, online, in the U.K., etc:
http://www.digitalfaq.com/dvdguides/buyerguides/buymedia.htm
106. Q. Where I can find top notch Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim media locally?
A. This is somewhat of a crap shoot. Big manufacturer's like Fuji, Sony, and Maxell have at one point past or present payed Taiyo Yuden to manufacture media for them. The big companies slap their name on the label even though the discs were manufactured in Japan by Taiyo Yuden. These discs will always be made in Japan. Authentic TY media isn't made anywhere else. Even if it says Made in Japan on the label, there is no gauruntee of getting authentic Taiyo Yuden media. You could still end up with Sony or Fuji media codes. Hence why I said this is a crap shoot. Places like Comp USA, Office Depot, Sam's Club, and Staples will carry Made In Japan branded discs. Again there is no way to know for sure from the package whether these are authentic Taiyo Yuden's. If you don't want to risk getting non TY discs, you can find 50 packs of Verbatim in the afore mentioned chain stores. One other alternative is the Made in Japan High Grade Maxell DVD+R's. They will say Made in Japan on the label and "High Grade" as well. These are excellent media. Remember when using DVD+R's, it's best you have a burner that supports booktyping/bitsetting, and a v.4 PS2 or later. Much thanks goes to kivory666 aka "docTY" for this information. He is indeed the Taiyo Yuden master. The best place to get authentic Taiyo Yuden media is from reputable online vendors like http://www.supermediastore.com http://www.rima.com http://www.meritline.com or http://www.newegg.com
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Solidus90
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18. March 2006 @ 23:29 |
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lol didn't you guys even read what I said? I said that I didn't pay that much... it was an instore sale and I got them for 30 bucks.
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18. March 2006 @ 23:32 |
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Well w/e, get some Taiyo Yuden's or Verb's.
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nrk4594
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19. March 2006 @ 03:17 |
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16x media gives mixed results with the PS2, it's best to stick to quality 4x or 8x media like Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim.
I use the 16X TDK DVD-R and I've had no problems with them. If he burns at 4X or slower he'll be fine.
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19. March 2006 @ 04:40 |
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Glad it works for you, it's very much a mixed bag if you answer as many threads as I do. The same goes for the TDK MIJ media. What works for you may not work for everybody. It's my judgement that 16x media isn't reliable when it comes to the PS2. I've encountered too many people that have issues with it. These aren't just noobs either, plenty of people who use 16x Verb's or TDK media have had issues with boot failures/coasters. This is my opinion, but if you take a look around AD, you'll see what I mean. My opinions are based on my experiences here on AD and elsewhere. There are instances where 16x media works okay for the PS2, but it's just too inconsistent for me to recommend. I'm glad it works for you.
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STEZAG
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19. March 2006 @ 07:20 |
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What works for you may not work for everybody. It's my judgement that 16x media isn't reliable when it comes to the PS2.
^^ that also goes for your beloved TY's. (This is not argumentative, just playing devils advocate) Some people have issues with those.
I myself am currently using TTH02 and have had no problems with them, I did think I had problems but it turned out to be my PS2 laser on its way out anyway.
IF you can find TYG02 for a better price than a TTH02 then obviously go for the TY's, but generally TTH02 can be much cheaper, and TTH02 are in the same class as TYG02 anyway. As long as you follow the good media guide then you should be ok.
Ty's being the best, but they are generally more expensive than other 1st class media. If it's your first time out (as was mine) go for the cheaper stuff (small packet maybe) see if they work, if they are perfectly fine for you (as this is all subjective) then stick with them as youll be saving your cash compared to buying TY's straight out of the gate, and forever paying more than you perhaps need to for an equally 1st class media.
at the end of the day what works is what works for you, we can only recommend, reguardless of our success rate, our success rate is not a representation of your possible success rate. We are simply minimising your chances of getting duff stuff :)
and no they don't look fake :)
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nrk4594
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19. March 2006 @ 11:44 |
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I have been using tdk dvd media for years now. I started out with the 2x media, and I've seen them go to 4x, 8x, and now 16x. Each time, I was a little hesitant trying the new types of disc, but they've never given me a problem.
I guess the best advice to give people is to buy a 5-pack of a particular brand to test it out first, then move on to the larger quantities.
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19. March 2006 @ 17:52 |
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Oh of course that applies to TY's. I don't think you're being argumentative. I've read that the TYG03's aren't very good quality anyway, and that 16x Verb's are better. At the same time people like Alkohol have told me 16x Verb's don't work with his PS2, so I take that as fact. I trust Alky's judgement completely when it comes to media. Not everybody who uses the TTH02 media has had issues. The same goes for 16x media. Some people get along fine with it. It's about 50/50 from what I can tell. By the same token, when I'm making general statements about what media works best with the PS2, 50/50 isn't very generalizeable. I've encountered very few issues from people who use quality 4x or 8x media with the PS2. When I do, it almost always can be traced back to user error. Perhaps the same could be said for 16x media. Like I said, it's my opinion that 16x media isn't reliable enough to recommend over 4x or 8x media for the PS2, nothing more.
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20. March 2006 @ 13:03 |
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The problem is PS2 ISO rips are proved more successful at 1x, 2x and 4x. Yet the best readings you get on your PIF graph is usually when you burn at half the maximum speed that the media your using is.
Therefore for the best readings with 16x will be burnt at 8x yet the PS2 struggles reading ISO's burned at 8x.
I personally use Taiyo Yuden (TYG02) 8X-R, burned at 4x for my PS2 ISO's and my accidental purchase (Verbatim 16x DVD-R, MCC) burned at 8x for my personal DVD collection.
Peace out
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Solidus90
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21. March 2006 @ 04:20 |
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So is 4X TY better than 8X? or are they equal quality wise?
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STEZAG
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21. March 2006 @ 09:02 |
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I would say the 8x because then you can burn at 4x ;-)
if you went for 4x you would have to burn at 2x.
since it's half the speed.
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21. March 2006 @ 10:28 |
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To be honest I'v never actually purchased 4x media so I wouldn't know, as these are very hard to come by (TY and Verb) in England, 8x media never fails me so I'v no reason to go after any lower.
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Solidus90
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21. March 2006 @ 13:45 |
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Why does everyone burn at half speed anyways?
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21. March 2006 @ 14:19 |
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Well its just if you get three 8x DVD-/+R and burn the same image at 2x, 4x and 8x the one burned at 4x shows a hell of a lot better PIE/PIF rate than that of the other two and its just sort of an unwritten rule of burning backups.
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21. March 2006 @ 16:07 |
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Some people burn at the max speed of the disc and get away with it. It depends your media, burner, firmware, and what burning software you use. I always burn PS2 games at 4x on 8x Taiyo Yuden Media with fantastic results. Half the max speed of the disc is a good starting point for noobs to PS2 backups. If you find you can burn above 4x with good results, go for it.
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