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computer does not recognize external hard drive
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shadob
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25. March 2006 @ 04:09 |
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Thanks, the catch fire expression was new to me. Am just beginning to realize how lucky I have been all these years. Am looking to buy another computer, but am not sure what I want yet. Am into video capture and other video pursuits, do not use the computers for business or any office duties. Write an occasional letter in Word, and that is about it. Nor do I download movies. Am into creating my own slide shows and virtual tours with the pics I take of my dog and when I go somewhere. My email address is psa@gotricounty.com, if you would like to use it.
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25. March 2006 @ 04:23 |
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New or not, the catch fire expression is the truth, the floppy disk drive started smoking!!
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shadob
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25. March 2006 @ 04:31 |
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I thought you just meant you lost data, did not realize it would actually catch fire. Boy, I have been lucky.
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The_OGS
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25. March 2006 @ 08:06 |
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I believe Shadob has not had a hardware failure; rather, his NTFS filesystem has collapsed. An important distinction.
If there is nothing wrong with the HD, it could simply be re-formatted and reused.
If it contains data but cannot be accessed and NTFS repairs cannot be made, then yes you might be in the bizarre position of trying to data-recover a perfectly functional HD.
But surely it must be simpler to access the data than if the HD itself was broken down... can we not repair the filesystem?
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shadob
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25. March 2006 @ 10:58 |
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OGS, Don't have a clue if it was the NTSF file system that collapsed, or that the hard drive failed. Is there some where I could find out how to repair the file system, if that is the problem? Cannot figure out how to access the hd in it's new case, it just says it cannot be opened, or the computer just stops responding. If there is a way to get into to the disk and repair the file system I would sure like to try it. Any info. you can pass on will be appreciated. Thank You
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25. March 2006 @ 10:58 |
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NTFS partitions don't collapse by themselves do they?
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The_OGS
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25. March 2006 @ 18:57 |
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Maybe I got shadob mixed up with another guy, his external harddisk stopped working when the power flickered (lost NTFS info through write-caching).
Sorry. Shadob's harddisk is toast, right? Try hooking it up directly to something, to rule out any external connection issues... just to make sure.
But yeah, they do go; usually sudden and data-recovery is not really a good option.
I had a 200GB Maxtor with 180GB movies on it, so I picked up a new 250GB/16MB SATA. That 200GB collapsed just DAYS after I got my movies off! (but I did lose some other less important stuff.)
Really close one though...
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25. March 2006 @ 23:59 |
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Yeah, I think DVD backups are the way to go now. Get a big carry case with a numerical file and just brim it with DVDs, if you have a habit of downloading lots.
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shadob
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26. March 2006 @ 05:58 |
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So, at this point, everyone is saying trash the hard drive, get a new one, dry my tears, and move on? And, NEVER AGAIN, be with back ups.
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26. March 2006 @ 06:36 |
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be Without, surely?
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shadob
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26. March 2006 @ 06:39 |
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Yes!! you are right "without"
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The_OGS
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26. March 2006 @ 08:23 |
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If it still appears in BIOS, you can use tools on it via DOS prompt and diagnose exactly what has happened.
If you 'give up' on the data on the HD, you can use delpart.exe and fdisk.exe and see if the HD is truly cooked.
Don't count on it, but it is not impossible that it might be okay and will accept new partition (but no matter what, your data will still be gone).
If the HD is half-gone, SMART will report this.
But HDs go: they do go away on you; it will happen to you sooner or later...
So backup! Backup, yes :^)
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26. March 2006 @ 10:17 |
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Gone is my belief that data loss "won't happen to me". It does, and you'd better believe it.
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shadob
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1. April 2006 @ 05:52 |
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It's me again, with another problem. Have given up on data recovery
from failed hard drive and am now looking to buy a new one. The external case I bought fit the Maxtor 98196HB and would like to use it on the next drive I buy. Am looking at HDs but cannot figure out which one I need. They have IDE, SATA,SCA, and SCSI and I cannot figure out what that means. Looked on the Maxtor website and it seemed that the failed drive was an IDE, but do not know if that is what I need this time. Cannot find the HD info on the computer I am going to use this new drive to back up. Guess I have always just used HDs and never learned anything about them. Any info will be appreciated. AND Thanks again to all who have been so helpful since this problem began.
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1. April 2006 @ 06:25 |
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S-ATA is better, if you have the sockets on your motherboard. S-ATA drives are newer, and as a result, quieter and faster.
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shadob
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1. April 2006 @ 06:38 |
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Hi sammorris, how are you today? Will the S-ATA fit in this external case that I purchased for the failed Maxtor? How do I tell if I have the S-ATA connections on my motherboard? I just never seem to run out of questions, do I?
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1. April 2006 @ 06:44 |
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Hi, I'm not bad thanks. Don't worry about asking questions, that's why AD is here.
If you're plugging in a device into an external case that's different, you need one that'll accept SATA drives. Generally external enclosures only support IDE drives, but not always. USB2 is the cheap way of connecting them, Firewire is better, External SATA (sata drives with this one obviously) is the best, but few motherboards support it.
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shadob
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1. April 2006 @ 07:50 |
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Sammorris, so shall I assume my motherboard does not support S-ATA and go with IDE or try to find out, if so how? Will the driver disk for the external case tell me if it supports SATA?
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1. April 2006 @ 10:54 |
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You're confusing me a bit here about internal and external drives. Which do you want, an external or an internal?
Most motherboards support S-ATA for internal drives, but very few support S-ATA for External drives. You can get enclosures that fit SATA drives in them, but they run off USB2 or firewire. External SATA or eSATA is a rare feature.
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shadob
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2. April 2006 @ 06:36 |
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Sorry to confuse the issue. Will try a recap from the beginning. 1. Had a HD failure on a computer running ME. 2. Someone told me I could gain access to this HD by removing it and putting it in an external case. 3. I bought a case, removed the HD from the computer and put it in the external case. 4. Hooked up the HD (in it's external case, thru USB) to another computer running XP. Still not able to access it, and through various inputs from OGS and yourself, came to the conclusion that the HD was history. 5. Started shopping for a new internal drive to put in the case and use it as a back up drive for the computer running XP. 6. When I started shopping for the new HD I found all these different things (IDE,SATA, SCA, and ACSI) and did not know what I needed to buy. 6. This brings us up to yesterday when I posted the question starting with "it's me again". 7. Having been convinced I need a back up drive, I am looking to buy an internal HD so I can use the external case I just bought. Is this not the thing to do? If it isn't I will buy the external HD and write off the $40 I paid for this case. Hope you are having a great weekend, and thx again for all of your help.
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2. April 2006 @ 06:40 |
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Right OK. Sorry, you didn't make it very clear before. There's little point wasting that enclosure. If it only does USB, then for one thing you're not going to see the speed advantage of SATA and secondly, a USB only enclosure probably won't support SATA anyway.
What you want to buy is an IDE disk drive. The rest is up to you, stick to the IDE (UDMA / PATA) section.
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shadob
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2. April 2006 @ 13:09 |
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Hi There! In reading the outside of the external enclosure box, I see; USB 2.0 3.5" Support ATAP10 modes0-4, ultra DMA 0-4. IEEE1394 3.5" Enhanced IDE/ATAPI protocol, Support ATAPIO moes0-4, Ultra DMA modes 0-5. Serial ATA 3.5" Support 1 40pin IDE Interface. Does any of this mean it supports SATA? If so, how do I find out if my computer supports SATA? Does any of this tell you what you needed to know? The name of the enclosure is Metal Gear Box and it is from EBay. If you get time let me know what you think of all this.
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3. April 2006 @ 02:07 |
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I think what that case is trying to tell you is that you can use an SATA drive with an IDE-SATA adapter. Don't, you're wasting speed and money.
Go for an IDE drive, since that's the plug thats inside the box unit. Your PC need not support SATA to use an external drive anyway, the only format it needs to know is the format the data's coming FROM that external disk, in this case USB2.
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shadob
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3. April 2006 @ 04:05 |
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Thank You! For clearing all that up for me. Boy, things get complicated when you are not sure what you are doing. Am off to look for an IDE HD, so far I really like the Maxtor 300gb. Will let you know how it turns out. Thx again
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3. April 2006 @ 05:27 |
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Go for it, and glad I could help.
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