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r0cker22
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11. April 2006 @ 18:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I recently purchased an hp media center.I use windows xp .i installed nero 7 and found when burning dvds that i would get a 1 second stutter during playback.i do not receive any message errors.i contacted hp and they tell me nero is not supported by this dvd burner(hp 840b) ,they did suggest a more recent firmware which i downloaded hi86 .this firmware was supposed to fix compatability with nero and sonic (sonic came with the pc).after trying hi86 i received the same problem.i then uninstalled nero and used sonic and get the same result.these are little 1 second stutter thats occur at various points during playback,they vary from 10 to 13 minutes apart.picture quality is fine ,audio is fine and burning cds is not an issue.just these frustrating 1 second stutters.i do have dvd decrytor and dvd shrink on my drive as well.i have since uninstalled sonic and have nero 7 installed and am still getting the same result.
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11. April 2006 @ 18:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nero and Sonic are known to conflict with each other. Choose 1 or the other.

After choosing what 1 you want to use uninstall both and go to both websites and download clean tools that they offer to make sure all parts of the programs are uninstalled.(drivers, Regestry etc etc)

Once you do that then install whatever program you have decided to use.

Make sure you go to the websites and find and download the clean tools for each program.

nero clean tool--- > http://ww2.nero.com/nero7/enu/Clean_Tools.html

Theres also a Roxio Zap utility that is supost to clean out Roxio program. Do a search for it.


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Would you by any chance be talking about the layer break? When encoding to a DVD5 it should be removed. Some backup apps don't handle the layer break very well when recording DL. Just wondering if this may be what you're seeing and if so are you recording DVD5 or DL?

With Nero don't install InCD and with Sonic make sure any of it's apps aren't running in the background when trying to use Nero, and vice versa. Batch writing causes interference due to tying up the burner, but isn't known for 1 second hesitations.

'Brobear'





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thx for the reply.took your advis and uninstalled both and cleaned after uninstall.i then reinstalled Nero and appear to have the same result.i am burning something that i ripped while i had both sonic and Nero on my computer useing DVD Shrink.is it possible the issue happened in the ripping even though i dont see it when watching the original during playback or are there any other suggestions.
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The way you phrased it, I didn't catch it at first. You get the "stutters" throughout the playback of the backup at 10-13 minute intervals. That leaves out the layer break. That's a single occurrence.

Okay, I notice you get a clear playback. That means something is happening between the PC, the burned disc, and the player. Have you tried using a different brand of media and what are you using now? Use DVD Identifier (free) and post the info here.

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ive been useing comp usa brand disks but i also use sonys and appear to get
the same results.heres the weird part .i keep burning the same movie over and over and check the results and the stutter happens in the same ex
act spot every time .on other things i have burned over and over i have had the same occurance.same spot every time.not sure what you wanted posted hope this is it.this is from the comp usa disk.thx for the help this is driving me crazy.

** INFO : Drive = HP DVD Writer 840b - [FW HI86] - [ATAPI]
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD+R DVD+R-DL DVD+RW
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD-R DVD-R-DL DVD-RW DVD-RAM
** INFO : Disc = [DVD-R:AML]
** INFO : Reference Speed : 1x DVD = 1385 kBps
** INFO : An Writeable Disc Is Recommended For Accurate Results
** INFO : Write Speeds (Supported By This Drive On This Disc) Listed Below

** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
Descriptor #1 = 5540 kBps ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : MODE SENSE Write Speed Descriptor(s) [Legacy Command]
** WARNING : MODE SENSE Is Obsolete And Not Always Properly Supported
Descriptor #1 = 5540 kBps ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
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Actually, I was wanting info on the media from DVD Identifier or another app. I was curious as to what you were using. Since Nero is involved you may want to get a mod, such as Creaky, to move the thread to the Nero section. You may get more help there. I won't be doing much more help here at AD, so someone else will need to take over helping you. I regret I wasn't more help in isolating the cause of your problem.

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thx .how do i go about haveing this thread moved.
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i've teleported it for you ;)



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right, have had a quick scan thru the thread... Nero 6.x doesn't handle the layer break properly, not sure if Nero 7.x does, however let's have a look at a Nero logfile entry -


let's have LAST section of your Nero log which lives in C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\NeroHistory but DO NOT post your serial number which usually begins with '5C80' or similar.

You can differentiate sections via this section divider "====== *** Nero-Burning Rom, History File *** ======"



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thx .i reposted my thread on the nero forum evidently that is something i should not have done.sorry .wont happen again.heres what i got .

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=45056 bytes, created 12/18/2005 12:15:31 AM
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 11/2/2004 1:54:32 PM

NT-SPTI used
Nero API version: 7.0.0.0
Using interface version: 6.6.0.12
Installed in: C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\
Application: Ahead\Nero Recode
Recorder: <HP DVD Writer 840b> Version: HI86 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.0.0
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
CdRomPeripheral : HP DVD Writer 840b atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : TSSTcorp DVD-ROM TS-H352C atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD2500JS-60MHB1 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
HP DVD Writer 840b E: CDRom0
TSSTcorp DVD-ROM TS-H352C F: CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1022MB (1046952kB)
Free physical memory: 463MB (474340kB)
Memory in use : 54
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

12.4.2006
NeroAPI
10:44:03 PM #1 Phase 112 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
DVD-Video files reallocation started

10:44:03 PM #2 Phase 114 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

10:44:03 PM #3 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
DVD-Video files sorted

10:44:03 PM #4 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 525
ReadBuffer-Pipe got 81920KB of Memory

10:44:03 PM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
Reader running

10:44:03 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113
Writer E: HP DVD Writer 840b running

10:44:03 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3304
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

10:44:03 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3304
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

10:44:04 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3301
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

10:44:04 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 277
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 1813167 (402:55.42, 3541MB)

10:44:04 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 289
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

10:44:04 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2568
Recorder: HP DVD Writer 840b, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: AML -
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

10:44:04 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 456
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

10:44:04 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 846
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 1813168 (1813168) = #1813168/402:55.43
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1813168 blocks [E: HP DVD Writer 840b]
--------------------------------------------------------------

10:44:04 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1058
Prepare recorder [E: HP DVD Writer 840b] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 3713368064, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
1813168 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

10:44:04 PM #16 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 34
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

10:44:04 PM #17 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
Caching of files started

10:44:04 PM #18 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4129
Cache writing successful.

10:44:04 PM #19 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
Caching of files completed

10:44:04 PM #20 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

10:44:04 PM #21 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2669
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

10:44:04 PM #22 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2469
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

10:44:04 PM #23 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 21541
Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON

10:44:04 PM #24 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2624
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

10:44:04 PM #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8385
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 0.0 (0)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 2FE10 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 2FFA0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

10:55:41 PM #26 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
<E: HP DVD Writer 840b> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 1813168 (1BAAB0h), length 0 blocks

10:55:41 PM #27 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

10:55:41 PM #28 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2866
EndDAO: Last written address was 1813167

10:56:11 PM #29 Phase 37 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
Burn process completed successfully at 4x (5,540 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0002) built by: WinDDK, size=16512 bytes, created 12/18/2005 12:15:31 AM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.32a, size=20640 bytes, created 4/25/2005 4:03:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

====== *** NeroAPI, History File *** ======

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no worries...

i chopped the serial number out and unfortunately realised the other burn entry with the Sony disc might have helped but i've deleted it now - oops. you could post again however for now i think there's enough to go on..
Quote:
Nero API version: 7.0.0.0
- out if date, update to 7.0.8.2 from here - http://www.nero.com/nero7/eng/nero7-up.php
Quote:
Recorder: <HP DVD Writer 840b> Version: HI86
- still looking for firmware info but i believe this is a relatively new burner so firmware shouldn't be out of date
Quote:
Recorder: HP DVD Writer 840b, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: AML -
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193
- now they are subpar quality discs...





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yeah i figured the first disk was subpar .here is the sony info.ill update Nero.

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=45056 bytes, created 12/18/2005 12:15:31 AM
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 11/2/2004 1:54:32 PM

NT-SPTI used
Nero API version: 7.0.0.0
Using interface version: 6.6.0.12
Installed in: C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\
Application: ahead\NeroVision
Recorder: <HP DVD Writer 840b> Version: HI86 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.0.0
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
CdRomPeripheral : HP DVD Writer 840b atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : TSSTcorp DVD-ROM TS-H352C atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD2500JS-60MHB1 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
HP DVD Writer 840b E: CDRom0
TSSTcorp DVD-ROM TS-H352C F: CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1022MB (1046952kB)
Free physical memory: 244MB (250480kB)
Memory in use : 76
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

14.4.2006
NeroAPI
2:23:12 PM #1 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
DVD-Video files sorted

2:23:13 PM #2 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 496
Tried to get 262144 KB of memory

2:23:13 PM #3 TRANSFER -5 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 497
Error: not enough memory

2:23:13 PM #4 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 525
ReadBuffer-Pipe got 131072KB of Memory - requested 262144KB of Memory

2:23:13 PM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
Reader running

2:23:13 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113
Writer E: HP DVD Writer 840b running

2:23:13 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3304
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

2:23:13 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3304
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

2:23:13 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3301
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

2:23:13 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 277
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 1451375 (322:31.50, 2834MB)

2:23:13 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 289
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

2:23:13 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2568
Recorder: HP DVD Writer 840b, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: SONY08 - D1
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

2:23:13 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 456
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

2:23:13 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 846
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 1451376 (1451376) = #1451376/322:31.51
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1451376 blocks [E: HP DVD Writer 840b]
--------------------------------------------------------------

2:23:13 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1058
Prepare recorder [E: HP DVD Writer 840b] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 2972418048, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
1451376 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

2:23:13 PM #16 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 34
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

2:23:15 PM #17 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
Caching of files started

2:23:15 PM #18 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4129
Cache writing successful.

2:23:15 PM #19 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
Caching of files completed

2:23:15 PM #20 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

2:23:15 PM #21 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2669
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

2:23:15 PM #22 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2469
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

2:23:15 PM #23 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 21541
Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON

2:23:15 PM #24 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2624
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

2:23:15 PM #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8385
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 0.0 (0)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 2FE10 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 2FFA0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ..þ...ÿ.........
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

2:32:38 PM #26 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
<E: HP DVD Writer 840b> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 1451376 (162570h), length 0 blocks

2:32:38 PM #27 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

2:32:38 PM #28 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2866
EndDAO: Last written address was 1451375

2:33:08 PM #29 Phase 161 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
Burn process completed successfully with warnings


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0002) built by: WinDDK, size=16512 bytes, created 12/18/2005 12:15:31 AM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.32a, size=20640 bytes, created 4/25/2005 4:03:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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i don't know much about Sony discs, don't use them myself. this isn't too good in that log -
Quote:
Physical memory : 1022MB (1046952kB)
Free physical memory: 244MB (250480kB)
Memory in use : 76
- nearly all that gig of RAM was eaten up by something, you need sufficient memory prior to all burning..



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firmware update
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericSoftwareDownloadIndex?c...

Sony is good, at least the 8X +R. #1 at digitalfaq. I've used a hundred or so with excellent results.

Follow Creaky's advice and update the software and update the firmware. Then try another project and post the Nero log if you still have the same problem. Remember to use good media.

Creaky knows his stuff, so listen to him.

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Creaky
Does this mean anything?

2:23:13 PM #2 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 496
Tried to get 262144 KB of memory

2:23:13 PM #3 TRANSFER -5 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 497
Error: not enough memory

2:23:13 PM #4 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 525
ReadBuffer-Pipe got 131072KB of Memory - requested 262144KB of Memory

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@brobear - well spotted, yup, considering this -
Quote:
Free physical memory: 244MB (250480kB)
in conjunction with your post, in this instance the buffer wanted 262MB of memory and was snubbed with only 131MB...


more memory needs to be freed up prior to all burns...



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Does this about sum it up?
1) Needs RAM (free it up or install more)
2) Needs Software Update
3) Needs Firmware Update
4) Remember to use good media.

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This might help with your Memory Error



Solution:

You have a basic problem with your Windows swap file - it's to low. How much free disk space do you have on your hard disk?

Try these two things:
1. Reboot - can free up some space in your memory or swap file - you could have too much applications running at the same time.
2. Add some swap space. How to do: right clic on desktop --> properties --> advanced --> performances --> advanced --> modify --> choose a memory size x1.5 than the RAM size (e.G i choose 512 for initial and 512 for max).






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nero has been updated ,firmware updated ,ill toss the crap disks.appears that i have my first non Coaster.dvd played flawless through section that has previously been a problem.i will still need to address the ram situation.i really appreciate the help ,i was going nuts .heres the most recent burn.

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=45056 bytes, created 12/18/2005 12:15:31 AM
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 11/2/2004 12:54:32 PM

NT-SPTI used
Nero API version: 7.0.8.2
Using interface version: 7.0.0.0
Installed in: C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\
Application: Ahead\Nero Recode
Internal Version: 7, 0, 8, 2

Recorder: <HP DVD Writer 840b> Version: HJ86 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.8.2
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
CdRomPeripheral : HP DVD Writer 840b atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : TSSTcorp DVD-ROM TS-H352C atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD2500JS-60MHB1 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
HP DVD Writer 840b E: CDRom0
TSSTcorp DVD-ROM TS-H352C F: CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1022MB (1046952kB)
Free physical memory: 296MB (303440kB)
Memory in use : 71
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

14.4.2006
NeroAPI
5:22:45 PM #1 Phase 112 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
DVD-Video files reallocation started

5:22:45 PM #2 Phase 114 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

5:22:45 PM #3 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
DVD-Video files sorted

5:22:45 PM #4 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 531
ReadBuffer-Pipe got 262144KB of Memory

5:22:45 PM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
Reader running

5:22:45 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113
Writer E: HP DVD Writer 840b running

5:22:45 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

5:22:45 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

5:22:45 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3353
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

5:22:45 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 289
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 1813167 (402:55.42, 3541MB)

5:22:45 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 301
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

5:22:45 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2715
Recorder: HP DVD Writer 840b, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: SONY08 - D1
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

5:22:45 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 473
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

5:22:45 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 1813168 (1813168) = #1813168/402:55.43
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1813168 blocks [E: HP DVD Writer 840b]
--------------------------------------------------------------

5:22:45 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059
Prepare recorder [E: HP DVD Writer 840b] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 3713368064, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
1813168 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

5:22:45 PM #16 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 39
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

5:22:45 PM #17 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 84
SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME

5:22:45 PM #18 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
Caching of files started

5:22:45 PM #19 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4187
Cache writing successful.

5:22:45 PM #20 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
Caching of files completed

5:22:45 PM #21 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
Burn process started at 8x (11,080 KB/s)

5:22:45 PM #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2707
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

5:22:45 PM #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2760
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

5:22:45 PM #24 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2916
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

5:22:45 PM #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8661
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Media Type: 0, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 0.0 (0)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 2FE10 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 2FFA0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

5:30:02 PM #26 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
<E: HP DVD Writer 840b> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 1813168 (1BAAB0h), length 0 blocks

5:30:02 PM #27 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

5:30:02 PM #28 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3156
EndDAO: Last written address was 1813167

5:30:32 PM #29 Phase 37 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
Burn process completed successfully at 8x (11,080 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0002) built by: WinDDK, size=16512 bytes, created 12/18/2005 12:15:31 AM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.32a, size=20640 bytes, created 4/25/2005 4:03:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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Looks like Creaky got you there. Though your RAM is near borderline the memory allocation error didn't occur with the new install of Nero.

Firmware covers write strategies and media supported. It's obvious why that should be kept updated if problems are encountered.

Using good media is important. That's why you see people with problems asked what they're using. Be aware brands sell media by different manufacturers. That's why I asked earlier for the manufacturer code from an app such as DVD Identifier. With the Nero, your log identifies the media manufacturer. That's why Creaky was inquiring about what you were using and suggesting the "good stuff".

Software updates solve problems encountered with the software (bugs) as well as adds new function. Those in the know sometimes give you the solution without a complete explanation of the cause. Some users of the earlier Nero 7 encountered memory allocation problems. Sound familiar?

In the future keep a copy of your old Nero installation files you know to be stable. That way you know you have a stable version in case the new update malfunctions. If you encounter problems with the update, revert to the known stable version to see if that solves the problem and wait till a new release comes out if necessary. A lot of people needed to do this recently. The early 7 had problems and the release before 7.0.8.2 wouldn't work properly for a lot of users. Glad to see you got a good burn. BTW, 7.0.8.2 appears to be stable and the best of the Nero 7 so far. Creaky had good reason to suggest you update to the latest version of the software.

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Good on ya , creaky.

Heres a FULL extract from my NERO BIBLE



Not enough memory

Error code:

8:23:18 AM #2 Phase 114 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 263
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

8:23:19 AM #3 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 263
DVD-Video files sorted

8:23:19 AM #4 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 505
Tried to get 48128 KB of memory

8:23:19 AM #5 TRANSFER -5 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 506
Error: not enough memory

8:23:19 AM #6 NEROAPI 7 File Burncd.cpp, Line 2975
Error:\nCannot connect TRF.

8:23:19 AM #7 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 828
DRM: DRM burn session terminated.

8:23:19 AM #8 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 857
DRM: Closing entire DRM handling. Bye.


Existing drivers:

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

Solution:

You have a basic problem with your Windows swap file - it's to low. How much free disk space do you have on your hard disk?

Try these two things:
1. Reboot - can free up some space in your memory or swap file - you could have too much applications running at the same time.
2. Add some swap space. How to do: right clic on desktop --> properties --> advanced --> performances --> advanced --> modify --> choose a memory size x1.5 than the RAM size (e.G i choose 512 for initial and 512 for max).

Last edited by cynthia : 2 Mar 2005 at 01:49 PM.






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desktop --> properties --> advanced --> performances --> advanced --> modify -->
That doesn't work with XP to access the swap file. That enters "Display Properties" and there is no "advanced" or path to the swap file. From the Nero log r0cker22 is using XP.

How to access and change swap file in Windows XP.
Start --> My Computer
In the left hand column click View System Information.
In the next System Properties window that opens click on the Advanced tab.
In the first box called Performance click on Settings.
In the next pop-up window click the Advanced tab.
In the bottom box where it's labeled "Virtual Memory", you've guessed it, click on Change.
In the new Virtual Memory window it should show you all incidences of paging files on your system. Highlight the one you want to get rid of and select the "no paging file" check box and then press set.
If you want to customise the size of the swap file you want to keep, highlight it and then select the Custom size check box.
Quote:
... choose a memory size x1.5 than the RAM size (e.G i choose 512 for initial and 512 for max).
I wonder about that. I have 2GB (2048MB) RAM and the initial size is 1536MB and the maximum is set to 3072MB and the system works great. In my case the ratio is x0.75 initial and x1.5 maximum. Unless there's a real need, I suggest leaving it where the system set it. According to the log there is 1022MB physical memory for rOck22's system. According to that the initial size may be in the range of 768MB and the maximum near 1536MB.
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Heres a FULL extract from my NERO BIBLE
Is that a personal compilation? ;) Creaky supplied a recommendation on your rule 1 when he mentioned programs and the low amount of usable RAM and the need for more. As for swap files, you may want to add some of this info to your "bible", including the above instructions on how to access it in XP. It's material anyone can access from Windows support or Microsoft. Normally the swap file isn't a problem unless something out of the ordinary happens to corrupt the system. Then there are warnings other than just Nero having a memory problem.

Note for novices on DVD backups: (commonly accepted and provided once again by Brobear) As a rule of thumb, you should have twice the size of your source files in free space on the hard drive before attempting a backup with most backup apps.

How Windows Determines the Recommended Maximum Swap File Size

Temporary Swap File
? Q. What is the temporary swap file recommended maximum size?

A. It is four times the physical RAM in the computer, rounded to the next 4 megabytes (MB). For example, if you have 3 MB of free XMS memory, you can create 16 MB of virtual memory ([3 MB * 4] + 4MB = 16 MB). Four is the default value for the SYSTEM.INI [386Enh] switch "PageOverCommit=". The recommended maximum size is also limited by the "50 percent free hard drive space" rule (that is, a swap file cannot take more than 50 percent of the available, usable hard drive space [compressed or stacked hard drive space is not considered usable]).

Whichever limit is reached first establishes the maximum size.
? Q. When I set a temporary swap file to a size larger than the maximum recommended size, the following error message is displayed. What does this message mean?
Windows will not use more than the virtual memory specified by the Recommended Size. Are you sure you want to create a larger swap file?
A. WIN386.EXE creates the temporary swap file at run time, and the file grows as necessary; the swap-file functionality only controls the maximum size allowable. You can never exceed 50 percent of the free hard disk space or four times the amount of physical RAM.


Permanent Swap File
? Q. When I set a permanent swap file to a size larger than the recommended maximum size, Windows forces the setting back to the recommended maximum size, even when plenty of free hard drive space exists. When this occurs, the following message is displayed. What does this message mean?
The number you specified is too large. The number currently displayed is the largest you can specify.
A. When Windows sets up a permanent swap file, free and contiguous hard drive space limits the recommended maximum size. A permanent swap file must be located on unfragmented space; therefore, even if there is plenty of disk space, the swap file is limited by file fragmentation.
If you have an disk-optimization program, such as Speedisk by Norton Utilities or Compress by PC Tools, you can use it to make more of the free hard drive space contiguous and usable for a permanent swap file.

NOTE: The maximum size limitations described in the first answer apply in addition to the required unfragmented disk space.

NOTE: These utilities should not be run from Windows and should not be run if you are using a disk cache. For more information, consult the manual for the utility you are using. KBCategory: kbusage
KBSubcategory: wfw win31 wfwg

====================================================

How Windows Handles Bad Permanent Swap Files

SUMMARY
This article explains the process Windows follows to find or re-create an existing permanent swap file if a swap file problem is detected.

The swap file is an element of the memory management services Windows provides. It is used to swap application code and data that is not being used from RAM to the hard disk. In this manner, Windows can provide more memory to your applications than is physically installed on your computer.
MORE INFORMATION
After you type win at the MS-DOS prompt, Windows reads the SYSTEM.INI file for various startup information, including the size, type and whereabouts of the swap file. If Windows finds a reference to a swap file, it looks for it (386SPART.PAR) on the hard disk.

If 386SPART.PAR is the wrong size (zero bytes, for example), Windows (WIN386.EXE) deletes and recreates 386SPART.PAR. If 386SPART.PAR does not exist at all, the following error message is displayed on a blue screen:
Corrupt Swap-File Warning
This error message asks if you would like to delete the corrupted swap file. If you choose No, Windows does not attempt to correct the bad permanent swap file, and starts normally. Until you choose Yes, every time you start Windows, you will receive this error message.

If you choose Yes, the next time you start Windows, CPWIN386.CPL (the 386 Enhanced portion of Control Panel) is used to create a new swap file. If the permanent swap file is created successfully, no further problems occur and all the settings in your Windows configuration should be the same as they were before you had swap file problems.

If Windows cannot find CPWIN386.CPL or if there is a problem with the file, the following error message is displayed:
The CPWIN386.CPL utility could not be run. Either CPWIN386.CPL could not be found, an access error occurred on the file, or there was insufficient memory to run the utility. The permanent swap file can not be set up.
If you receive this error message, make sure the file, CPWIN386.CPL, is in your SYSTEM subdirectory.

If CPWIN386.CPL loads successfully but fails to create a permanent swap file, the following error message is displayed:
The CPWIN386 utility was not able to set up the permanent swap file.
This error message could be caused by insufficient disk space or other problems that normally prevent permanent swap file creation.




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