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Teebo
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14. April 2006 @ 13:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is my first post here so first of all thanks for having me here =) My issue is i am having trouble getting an illegal disc error when I burn a VCD with Nero 7 Ultra. I have used Sony CD-R's as well as Maxell CD-Rpro discs and its the same error on both. I have a HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-117R Product Rev. 1.02 and the firmware I am finding to upddate it seems to be for Win 95/98 and instructs me to do it in DOS mode which I dont think i can do in XP. So if firmware is my issue can anyone point me to the exact firmware I might need and some brief help on how to actually do this and if flashing is needed how do I do that? Thanks in advance for the help and here is my Nero error log as well and I have enabled DMA since this error occured also.

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 11/2/2004 1:54:32 PM

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 7.0.8.2
Internal Version: 7, 0, 8, 2

Recorder: <HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B>Version: 1.02 - HA 1 TA 1 - 7.0.8.2
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B >Version: 1.02 - HA 1 TA 1 - 7.0.8.2
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST380020A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-117R atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-117R F: CDRom0
HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B G: CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1023MB (1048096kB)
Free physical memory: 580MB (594664kB)
Memory in use : 43 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

10.4.2006
Video CD
1:24:58 AM #1 Text 0 File VCDDoc.cpp, Line 1403
VideoCD document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Compilation type : VCD
Menu : Disable
Picture in separate folder : FALSE
Use CD-I : TRUE
CD-I configuration : CONTROLS=ALL

CURCOL=YELLOW

PSDCURCOL=RED

PSDCURSHAPE=ARROW

CENTRTRACK=2

AUTOPLAY=AUTO_ON

DUALCHAN=DUAL_ON

TIMECODE_X=64

TIMECODE_Y=100

LOTID_X=64

LOTID_Y=64

ALBUM=STANDARD
Encoding bitrate mode : User defined (kb/s)

1:24:58 AM #2 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6423
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 2 / XA
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

1:24:58 AM #3 Text 0 File VCDDoc.cpp, Line 2885
VCD options:
-----------------------------------------------------
Create standard compliant CD: YES
Encoding resolution: NTSC
-----------------------------------------------------

1:24:58 AM #4 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3056
HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B
Buffer underrun protection activated

1:24:58 AM #5 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 531
ReadBuffer-Pipe got 81920KB of Memory

1:24:58 AM #6 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
Reader running

1:24:58 AM #7 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113
Writer G: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B running

1:24:58 AM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

1:24:58 AM #9 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

1:24:58 AM #10 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3353
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using CD-R/RW media

1:24:58 AM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 289
Last possible write address on media: 359846 ( 79:59.71)
Last address to be written: 291229 ( 64:45.04)

1:24:58 AM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 301
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

1:24:58 AM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2715
Recorder: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B;
CDR code: 00 97 24 01; OSJ entry from: Taiyo Yuden Company Limited
ATIP Data:
Special Info [hex] 1: C0 00 98, 2: 61 18 01 (LI 97:24.01), 3: 4F 3B 48 (LO 79:59.72)
Additional Info [hex] 1: 00 00 80 (invalid), 2: 00 80 00 (invalid), 3: 00 80 80 (invalid)

1:24:58 AM #14 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 473
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

1:24:58 AM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE2_2336 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 1110 (1110) = #1110/0:14.60
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_RAW_MODE2, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1110 blocks [G: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B]
1: TRM_DATA_MODE2_2336 ([TMD]Walk.The.Line.(ALLiANCE).DVDRip.(2of2))
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 289970 (289970) = #289970/64:26.20
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_RAW_MODE2, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 289970 blocks [G: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B]
--------------------------------------------------------------

1:24:58 AM #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059
Prepare recorder [G: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x20; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 2:
1: TRM_DATA_RAW_MODE2, 2352/0x00, FilePos 0 352800 2963520, ISRC ""
2: TRM_DATA_RAW_MODE2, 2352/0x00, FilePos 2963520 3316320 685325760, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
-150 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
-150 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
1110 | 2 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
1260 | 2 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
291230 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

1:24:58 AM #17 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 39
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

1:24:58 AM #18 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 84
SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME

1:24:58 AM #19 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Caching of files started

1:24:59 AM #20 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4187
Cache writing successful.

1:24:59 AM #21 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Caching of files completed

1:24:59 AM #22 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Burn process started at 16x (2,400 KB/s)

1:24:59 AM #23 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2707
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

1:24:59 AM #24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2707
Verifying disc position of item 1 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #1260

1:24:59 AM #25 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 17216
StartDAO : CD-Text - Off

1:24:59 AM #26 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 21893
Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON

1:24:59 AM #27 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 17447
CueData, Len=48
41 00 00 34 00 00 00 00
41 01 00 21 00 00 00 00
41 01 01 21 00 00 02 00
41 02 00 21 00 00 10 3c
41 02 01 21 00 00 12 3c
41 aa 01 34 00 40 2d 05

1:25:18 AM #28 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1211
01:25:18.609 - G: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B : Queue again later

1:25:23 AM #29 SPTI -1046 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 290
G: CdRom1: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1046)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x30
Sense Qual: 0x06
CDB Data: 0x2A 00 00 00 02 D9 00 00 1B 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 30 06
Buffer x05860000: Len xf810
0x00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 00 11 54 02
0x01 00 62 05 01 00 62 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

1:25:23 AM #30 CDR -1046 File Writer.cpp, Line 302
Illegal disc
G: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B

1:25:23 AM #31 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

1:25:23 AM #32 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
conversion idle, stopping reader

1:25:24 AM #33 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Burn process failed at 16x (2,400 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.27a, size=20576 bytes, created 1/26/2005 3:03:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 14. April 2006 @ 14:08

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14. April 2006 @ 16:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello Teebo and welcome to AD...
Quote:
CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-117R atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: Off
Turn your DMA on, here is a guide: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/260038


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14. April 2006 @ 19:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
both drives are set to DMA if available and still getting the error. Any other ideas?
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15. April 2006 @ 02:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Uninstall the drivers for both drives and reboot your puter, XP should reinstall the drivers and automatically set them to DMA.


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15. April 2006 @ 04:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I did as you said and it did activate DMA on both drives. but the error still occurs. So any other ideas? here is the newest error log from Nero....


Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 11/2/2004 1:54:32 PM

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 7.0.8.2
Internal Version: 7, 0, 8, 2

Recorder: <HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B>Version: 1.02 - HA 1 TA 1 - 7.0.8.2
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B >Version: 1.02 - HA 1 TA 1 - 7.0.8.2
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST380020A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-117R atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-117R F: CDRom0
HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B G: CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1023MB (1048096kB)
Free physical memory: 612MB (626832kB)
Memory in use : 40 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

15.4.2006
Video CD
7:59:05 AM #1 Text 0 File VCDDoc.cpp, Line 1403
VideoCD document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Compilation type : VCD
Menu : Disable
Picture in separate folder : FALSE
Use CD-I : TRUE
CD-I configuration : CONTROLS=ALL

CURCOL=YELLOW

PSDCURCOL=RED

PSDCURSHAPE=ARROW

CENTRTRACK=2

AUTOPLAY=AUTO_ON

DUALCHAN=DUAL_ON

TIMECODE_X=64

TIMECODE_Y=100

LOTID_X=64

LOTID_Y=64

ALBUM=STANDARD
Encoding bitrate mode : User defined (kb/s)

7:59:05 AM #2 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6423
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 2 / XA
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

7:59:06 AM #3 Text 0 File VCDDoc.cpp, Line 2885
VCD options:
-----------------------------------------------------
Create standard compliant CD: YES
Encoding resolution: NTSC
-----------------------------------------------------

7:59:06 AM #4 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3056
HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B
Buffer underrun protection activated

7:59:06 AM #5 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 531
ReadBuffer-Pipe got 81920KB of Memory

7:59:06 AM #6 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
Reader running

7:59:06 AM #7 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113
Writer G: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B running

7:59:06 AM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

7:59:06 AM #9 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

7:59:06 AM #10 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3353
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using CD-R/RW media

7:59:06 AM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 289
Last possible write address on media: 359846 ( 79:59.71)
Last address to be written: 291238 ( 64:45.13)

7:59:06 AM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 301
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

7:59:06 AM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2715
Recorder: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B;
CDR code: 00 97 24 01; OSJ entry from: Taiyo Yuden Company Limited
ATIP Data:
Special Info [hex] 1: C0 00 98, 2: 61 18 01 (LI 97:24.01), 3: 4F 3B 48 (LO 79:59.72)
Additional Info [hex] 1: 00 00 80 (invalid), 2: 00 80 00 (invalid), 3: 00 80 80 (invalid)

7:59:06 AM #14 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 473
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

7:59:06 AM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE2_2336 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 1119 (1119) = #1119/0:14.69
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_RAW_MODE2, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1119 blocks [G: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B]
1: TRM_DATA_MODE2_2336 ([TMD]Walk.The.Line.(ALLiANCE).DVDRip.(2of2))
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 289970 (289970) = #289970/64:26.20
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_RAW_MODE2, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 289970 blocks [G: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B]
--------------------------------------------------------------

7:59:06 AM #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059
Prepare recorder [G: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x20; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 2:
1: TRM_DATA_RAW_MODE2, 2352/0x00, FilePos 0 352800 2984688, ISRC ""
2: TRM_DATA_RAW_MODE2, 2352/0x00, FilePos 2984688 3337488 685346928, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
-150 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
-150 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
1119 | 2 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
1269 | 2 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
291239 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

7:59:06 AM #17 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 39
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

7:59:06 AM #18 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 84
SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME

7:59:06 AM #19 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Caching of files started

7:59:06 AM #20 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4187
Cache writing successful.

7:59:06 AM #21 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Caching of files completed

7:59:06 AM #22 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Burn process started at 16x (2,400 KB/s)

7:59:06 AM #23 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2707
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

7:59:06 AM #24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2707
Verifying disc position of item 1 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #1269

7:59:06 AM #25 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 17216
StartDAO : CD-Text - Off

7:59:06 AM #26 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 21893
Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON

7:59:06 AM #27 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 17447
CueData, Len=48
41 00 00 34 00 00 00 00
41 01 00 21 00 00 00 00
41 01 01 21 00 00 02 00
41 02 00 21 00 00 10 45
41 02 01 21 00 00 12 45
41 aa 01 34 00 40 2d 0e

7:59:14 AM #28 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1211
07:59:14.734 - G: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B : Queue again later

7:59:29 AM #29 SPTI -1046 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 290
G: CdRom1: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1046)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x30
Sense Qual: 0x06
CDB Data: 0x2A 00 00 00 00 87 00 00 1B 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 30 06
Buffer x057f0000: Len xf810
0x00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 00 03 60 02
0x00 00 08 00 00 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

7:59:29 AM #30 CDR -1046 File Writer.cpp, Line 302
Illegal disc
G: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B

7:59:29 AM #31 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

7:59:30 AM #32 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
conversion idle, stopping reader

7:59:30 AM #33 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Burn process failed at 16x (2,400 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.27a, size=20576 bytes, created 1/26/2005 3:03:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 15. April 2006 @ 05:03

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Short of getting a new burner I don't have any other suggestions at this time...the OEM LG drives like the one you are using are just not very good. Someone else may stop by with some suggestions, but I'm afraid I'm out of ideas. Try reducing your burn speed to 8X or 10X and see if there is a difference.


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15. April 2006 @ 05:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks for the effort LOCOENG much appreciated even though it didnt solve the problem =)
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What file type were your source files in and were they converted at some point to another file type? There could have been a problem in the conversion.


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15. April 2006 @ 06:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
They were in AVI format then I changed them to mpeg, but the very first disc I burned worked fine then I havent got any vcd's to work since, oddly mp3's will burn fine though. So I am going to buy some different brand discs next to see if that helps although I have gotten this error using Sony discs and Maxell discs both so I dont think its the media. Out of 16 attempts to burn a VCD only the first one worked, all the rest have given me the illegal disc error. I have read about 20 different posts and all seem to say update the firmware abd the firmware I find for my CD-RW seems to be for Win 95/98 so I dont think i can use it, the instructions talk about doing stuff in DOS mode so not sure I can actually do it and I dont want to mess up my CD-RW =(
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