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17. April 2006 @ 07:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok so here's where I'm at.
-I wanna open up port 65535 for Bitlord 1.1. I've done the check on sheilds up and I get a Stealth rating.
-Ive already got a static IP set up, but it's not set up the way it shows on portforward.com.
-My current Gateways is 192.168.0.***
-I think it should be 10.0.0.***
-My router has a differant IP then the Gateway thats set up on my computer. I do a ping check In DOS and it says Timed out
-When I try to start everything from the beinning,(How it shows on Portforward.com) I set up the Main computer first, then the one behind the router.
-When i do this my main computer works but the one behind the router dosent. (Its a Labtop)
-Anyways when I do this, the internet dosent work, but this is the only time that I can connect to the Router. When I change my ip/sub/gate/dns back to the way it was the Internet works, but I cant connect to the router anymore.
-This sucks! Anythoughts?

-Is this the way that its supposed to be, does it sound right? I dont wanna config the router before I find out, anyways it dosent seem right from what I read at Portforward.com

-Thanx in Advance

-Silo

Silo
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17. April 2006 @ 12:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'll try to help you, note that I said try.

In order...
-drop bitlord, get a real client. Stealthed means you need to forward...
-Why bother doing a static level 2 IP? Have you got LOTS of other computers on your network?
-The gateway is the router/modem address from WITHIN the network, not outside. 192.168.1.1 usually connects to a router, 192.168.100.1 or 0.1 usually connects to the modem.
-I can't think of any reason why your IP (sub or otherwise) should be 10.0.0.xxx
-OOooooooh, you set up a gateway on your computer...I see. MAN way to make that a LOT harder than it needed to be. You're really making lots of headaches for yourself doing it this way.
-You have computers behind the router and computers NOT behind the router? So your "main" computer has 2 lan cards? There should be NO computers in front of the router/switch unless that's what you're using AS your router...which you're not.
-Well of course the one in front works and the other doesn't, I can't think of any way you might have this set up to possibly work. The routers job is to use DHCP to assign IP's as it receives the connection from the cable line. Instead, your computer's taking the primary IP, then distributing a sub IP to the router and all connected computers...wow that's ugly.
-It's because of how you have it set up. EVERY computer goes BEHIND the router.
-Any thoughts? Sure...do it like this:

Unplug everything.
cable in house goes to...MODEM
MODEM out goes to ROUTER IN
Router should have multiple connections, and/or wireless
ALL computers plug into router, and I mean ALL.
Power on modem first, let all lights stop flashing.
Power on router next, give it a good 30 seconds to boot. (Make sure it's been unplugged at least 1 minute before replugging it in, actually, if I were you, I'd force it to reset by pressing in the recessed "Reset" button w/ a paperclip for at least 10 seconds until all lights light up and go back off...to reset factory settings and undo whatever you've done)
After those are up, fire up any/all computers connected to the routers.
Go into your internet settings and friggin DELETE the gateways.
Make a new internet connection and for the love of god do NOT assign static IP's or use gateways. There should just be "local connection #x" and it should automatically work, assuming your modem is on.
Rinse/repeat for all computers on the network.
Log into router via whatever address supplied by manufacturer, it's probably 192.168.1.1
Follow the portforward instructions to assign port forwarding w/i the router.
I find it's easiest to log into my router to find my local IP (192.168.x.x) by going to "Status", "local network", "dhcp clients table", and since my computer has a unique name on the network, I can always see its number easily.
Now, if ever you get new nat errors, it's probably because your computer was OFF while another computer was turned ON, and it took your old forwarded IP. Simply log into the forwarding panel again, and change the IP to your new one.

Static assigning isn't worth it unless you're hosting.
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17. April 2006 @ 12:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ive got no problem with that, but I dont think that my modem supports multiple connections to it. Is that a problem? I hope not, well Ill try it anyways Ill let you know of the outcome.

-Thanx
Silo

Silo
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17. April 2006 @ 14:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok so I did all that, but now the problem is that I can only connect to the internet on one of the computers at a time. I set a differant connection on each computer (2). But still no luck, when one is connected the other says that the line is busy, is there anything around this hope so....

-Silo

Silo
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17. April 2006 @ 14:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Stop the truck.

Are you on dialup?

If so, I apologize greatly for my misinformation.

A cable MODEM does only support ONE connection, vis-a-vis the router.

It's the router that does ALL the dirty work for you, handing out sub-ip's, sharing bandwidth, all that.

The modem will only see 1 connection (the router), which is why your tech people at your ISP will say "what is linksys that is connected to the modem" when they scan to see if there's a problem.

I'm headed out to dinner right now...post back if you've still got issues and I'll help you in a bit.



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17. April 2006 @ 15:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think I am on Dial-up (ADSL). Well anyways now that u know all this, maybe you could still help, my ISP wont give me ANY help unless I pay them a hefty sum, C*C*SU*K*RS.
I really wanna enjoy all those DL speeds i keep readying about, but this portforwarding this is killin me. Well thanx for the help.

Silo

Silo
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17. April 2006 @ 16:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ahh...hokay. ADSL isn't dial up. It's asynchronous digital subscriber link, lol.

One more time...
Delete all the gateways/local connections you have from all associated computers. For now we're just going to worry about 1.

DSL modem plugs into the phone line, right?

On the back of the modem, there should be an RJ45 plug, which looks like a phone jack, but it has 8 wires instead of 2 or 4 (or 6.) It's just a little wider.

Between the modem and your router you plug in your first ethernet cable...they should have given you one w/ the modem.

So...one end of the ethernet cable goes into the DSL modem, the other goes into the service port of your router. Make sure you've got a router, not a hub. It would help if you could tell me the brand name and/or a model number.

On a linksys router, it's the one plug that's the opposite direction of all the other plugs.

Now, depending on your router, there should be between 1 and 16 additional places to plug in cable, but there's probably 4.

Now you need your next piece of ethernet cable, between one of the numbered ports on the back of the router to your computer.

Power on modem. Wait till it's done.
Power on router. Wait till it's done.
Power on computer. wait till it's done.

Now, you SHOULD be online automatically. If not, do the internet connection wizard, and choose "connects directly to the internet", do NOT choose "connects through another computer." Do NOT choose "other computer connect through this one".

If you can get this far, let me know. Don't even worry about the other computers just yet.

If you can get this far, try logging into the router, it's fairly simple. Tell me what you see when you get that far.



The BT Bible 1.2, no longer hosted on rapidshare!:
http://www.plucky.org/component/option,com_vfm/Itemid,54/

Static? Dynamic? What's wrong with your torrent? Tweaks? Fixes? Troubleshoots? All that and more...
http://www.plucky.org
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18. April 2006 @ 01:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK so here I am.

I think I do have a Hub, dont know it dosent actually say Router/Hub so I just firgure because it says Switch.

-SWITCH
--EDIMAX 8-Port FAST ETHERNET SWITCH

-Modem Just in case.
--ETH-AZTECH DSL 600E

Just Give me the word, and Ill gather some new products.

I decided not to touch anythink just yet, until I find out whats the deal.

Thanx
Silo

Silo
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18. April 2006 @ 05:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ahh, ok, that's the problem.

A switch is really for a more intensive network, it's what handles the sharing of bandwidth, etc, but it does NOT assign IP's, that's a router's job, so there's the bollocks.

I'd recommend picking up a Linksys or a Dlink router, either should be fairly cheap wherever you are. Wireless capability will be a couple more bucks, but if you have no wireless connections, you'll need to disable it so nobody leeches your bandwidth.

I personally have a Linksys WRT54G, they're around $50, and I'm very happy w/ it. They also have lots of documentation and are well supported. I recommend D-link if you have D-link network cards, because they have a speed boost.

Basically, you want to make sure you get a ROUTER, not just an access point, don't let the terminology confuse you. If you decide to go ahead and grab a wireless to be future proof, make sure it's a wireless broadband router. Also, there are a few new wireless routers that do NOT have any wired plug-ins, don't get one of those unless you ONLY want wireless connectivity.

I think if you pick up one of those, bring it home and install it as per the big fold out directions, you'll find yourself online in a jiffy.

Just post back if that's not the case.

oh...and that switch you have is pretty nice, you can either KEEP it and plug it into the add-on port on the router (disabling its switching ability, just making it a hub for more plug-ins), or you could probably sell it on ebay. Or...take it back to the store if that's what they told you you needed.

The BT Bible 1.2, no longer hosted on rapidshare!:
http://www.plucky.org/component/option,com_vfm/Itemid,54/

Static? Dynamic? What's wrong with your torrent? Tweaks? Fixes? Troubleshoots? All that and more...
http://www.plucky.org
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18. April 2006 @ 05:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok Ill do that it might take me acouple of days, but it will be done. Ill get back to you on this post and let you know how things are goin.

ILL BE BACK

Silo

Silo
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