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theoipod
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3. May 2006 @ 07:44 |
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hey i just bought 1 gig of ram and put it in my computer.
i don't notice an amazing speed difrence is thi normal?
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3. May 2006 @ 11:06 |
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There won't be any "speed" increase per se, it's when you run out of RAM that the PC slows down. Adding more RAM just prevents this slowdown from occurring. If you never ran out of RAM you won't notice a difference though.
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3. May 2006 @ 11:58 |
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The noticable differences are generally not raw 'speed'. One noticable difference I see on most systems is the startup. Systems with low amounts of ram tend to need a minute or so to open various background programs, Anti-Virus, Anti-Spy/Malware, Sound and Video Drivers, etc, etc.
When you have more ram, that goes smoother, and you'll notice the ability to run programs almost as soon as the desktop is up, with better reaction times. That's a very miniscule change.
Here's what you should notice more.
First, you can now run more processes at once without seeing a huge performance hit like you would have. So if you're running you're favorite Brittany Spears track through winamp in the background while you check out the new trailer for star wars episode XII, and have your e-mail client open with FireFox underneath it, so that you can reference it in the e-mail you're writing to your girlfriend who you tell everyone lives in Canada; you won't see lag that you might have before.
Now; that is not the most practical for everyone. So I will elaborate more. First, their is a tweak for overall gaming performance. You can go into windows and set virtual memory. You should try setting it to 1.5 times your system's ram for both the minimum and maximum; and it makes games run a little better, make sure you set it like that for both drives. Also; for slightly better video, try enlarging your video aperture through your CMOS bios. You can get better performance that way too. When I first learned this trick; I saw boosts of a good 20-30 fps; and have applied it to every system I work on ever since.
Then load up a very detailed game that challenged your system, and see if it still holds the same challenge.
Hopefully you'll see the boosts we mentioned not in speed perse; but in stability, and constant framerate, you're now much less susceptable to slow down.
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theoipod
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3. May 2006 @ 12:17 |
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SORRY THAT WAS A FALSE ALERT I DON'T NOTICE ANY SPEED increase when im opening a program its more things like copying dvds i can do 5 at a time and it goes a lot FASTEZR
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3. May 2006 @ 13:42 |
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Yep, that's multitasking in action, everything's going as it should.
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3. May 2006 @ 14:50 |
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The reason for which I was asking for you're email was that nobody else seemed to be communacating in the forum.
It's not that we don't want to communicate, it's just that sammorris and handsom are doing so well at guiding you, that any other advice might end up just confusing you - and we wouldn't want that to happen :)
Also, don't be afraid to build yourself a new system instead of buying a pre-built one. The benefits of building one yourself far out weigh one that has been pre-built. It just takes planning and patience plus when it is done, you'll get that warm fuzzy feeling ..... sometimes called pride :D
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3. May 2006 @ 14:53 |
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Hypocrite though I am saying so, you save tonnes of money and aren't bound by warranty statements when you home build. The only reason I'm put off is because I made a little costly mistake last time (not strictly my fault, a bad component (PSU) caused the issue, but you know). My parents don't trust me with PC building now. I know the score, but don't put it into practice, not with expensive systems anyway!
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theoipod
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4. May 2006 @ 05:09 |
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how old are you samor?
and again i thank you so much i have gotton rid of a big problem thanks to you guys.
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4. May 2006 @ 08:49 |
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Funnily enough I'm 18 tomorrow. Don't be scared though, I've been a technophile since about 12, and I'm one of the IT admin at school.
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4. May 2006 @ 09:06 |
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bloody hell i imagined you being a 65 year old im 13 any advice to the futur technology people?
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4. May 2006 @ 12:31 |
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Future technology people?
Erm, hard to know what you mean about that. I've been quite surprised by the number of young and olds at afterdawn, many from my home country of little old england, but anyway you're question. erm, assuming I'm interpreting you right, I'd say:
If you don't have plenty to spend and/or don't like upgrading your PC and want good technology, wait until Socket AM2 is released in June, then get a system based on that, far more potential. Theoretically in the not too distant future that platform will see an Athlon64 X8, with a numerical figure I wouldn't like to guess, 20K maybe. Hey, the cell CPU has already pretty much achieved it, 8x3200 (albeit one disabled on the PS3).
If you do have plenty of money and/or you don't mind upgrading a little way down the line and/or you don't need the uppermost technology, you really want to stick 939. PCI express has plenty of life, and a high end 939 CPU will still be kicking bottom in a few years time, especially if overclocked.
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4. May 2006 @ 12:42 |
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it's just that sammorris and handsom are doing so well at guiding you, that any other advice might end up just confusing you - and we wouldn't want that to happen :)
lol; I'm touched. *Warm Fuzzies*
@theoipod
I think you'll find there are a lot of young users on here. And everybody is always willing to share helpful information. I try to give a lot of help to people; and I occasionally find myself asking for assistance in others (Having a fun little issue with a background process that wishes not to be killed). Overall, as long as you keep an open mind to what people are saying; you're going to find a huge wealth of information here.
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4. May 2006 @ 13:38 |
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What a first-class post, if you'll forgive the pun.
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theoipod
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5. May 2006 @ 02:00 |
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that's correct samor you understood my question.
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theoipod
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5. May 2006 @ 02:08 |
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Did you know that a recent report by The Inquirer has shown Socket AM2's performance to be only 3-5% faster than that of AMD's current Socket 939.
with my 754 socket,if i want to upgrade my cpu,does this mean changing motherboard or can i get a good cpu with my 754 socket?
Would it not be smartter to go with intel since they claim that there equivalent of AM2 will be 40% faster?
In your guys' opinion is 754 socket going to be outdated soon?
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5. May 2006 @ 14:08 |
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The Inquirer ain't a rock solid source of info, but the performance gain FOR THE SAME CPU of AM2 is going to be about 3-5%, but that's with the same RAM. If oyu up the speed of the memory (DDR2) you can get slightly more. However, it's the future CPUs that will give AM2 its power.
With a 754, you can get up to an Athlon64 4000+ but that'll be it. Now only Semprons are released for the 754 platform and no dual cores (which are now HIGHLY recommended) ever were.
939 is also looking a little bleak since the FX-60 was the last fastest CPU that will be released for it (any others won't be as good).
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Would it not be smartter to go with intel since they claim that there equivalent of AM2 will be 40% faster?
No it won't and no it won't. The benchmark was skewed, the Conroe 2666 chip in question is actually around about on par with the FX-60, and when the FX-62 appears (and dont forget you can overclock AMD CPUs, Tom's Hardware have shown that often performance of intel CPUs DECREASES with an OC). The AM2 platform will quite literally kick Conroe's ass, if you forgive the fanboyism.
If you want a good upgrade's worth, wait until june then go with an Athlon64 X2 (neednt be high end they're VERY overclockable) on the AM2 Platform with some DDR2 RAM (maybe around 4200, no higher or the latencies are stupid)
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theoipod
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6. May 2006 @ 01:43 |
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what motherboard would i need for the AM2 cpu?
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6. May 2006 @ 02:46 |
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A socket AM2 Motherboard, which like the AM2 Processors, aren't available until June.
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6. May 2006 @ 04:05 |
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how much more expensive are they going to be?
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6. May 2006 @ 04:07 |
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I couldn't say exactly, but I doubt they'll be much more, if they are it'll be necause of other extra features not due to the specific platform change.
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6. May 2006 @ 04:21 |
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i want to buy a computer in september for around 1100-1200 cdn. do you think thats attainable with the am2 dual core processors?
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6. May 2006 @ 05:23 |
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Yes, but not with a storming graphics card or memory.
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6. May 2006 @ 11:34 |
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6. May 2006 @ 11:37 |
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To be honest, you are better off waiting for AM2 now it's so close, it has much more future potential.
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6. May 2006 @ 12:48 |
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So basicly what you are trying to say is that all the futur processeurs will be for am2 like the equevilant of 939 right now?
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