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is this a good pc to buy?
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redice
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20. April 2006 @ 15:24 |
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20. April 2006 @ 15:49 |
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I could not get the second link to work.
If you can build your own computer i would highly recommend it.
http://www.newegg.com is a great place to buy parts
That computer is pretty crappy if you ask me.
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redice
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20. April 2006 @ 16:14 |
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the link works now
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20. April 2006 @ 16:27 |
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The second choice is alot faster on everything except possibly the processor. I have never been priveleged enough except to use pentiums for work.
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redice
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20. April 2006 @ 16:31 |
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ok
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20. April 2006 @ 16:58 |
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I would still highly suggest building your own. It is always possible to upgrade components if you do.
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redice
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20. April 2006 @ 17:02 |
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i would build my own but i don't know where to start. I have notice that newegg has good price on the parts.
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20. April 2006 @ 17:12 |
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It isn't hard at all to build one....The motherboard has a manuel and do other components...All it is....Is basically putting parts on the motherboards....It isn't as hard as you think.....
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redice
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20. April 2006 @ 18:18 |
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well can you all help me get together all the parts? i would like to build a nice pc for around 600.00 dollars thatwill maje backup dvds quickly.
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redice
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20. April 2006 @ 19:36 |
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redice
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21. April 2006 @ 10:16 |
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so i guess none of the 2 pc's are anygood?
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21. April 2006 @ 14:20 |
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I would not say either one of those pc's are not good. What I am trying to say is that when you buy the parts seperately and piece them together yourself it is always better quality. Sometimes it is even cheaper also. But they can make those computers cheap because they use the cheapest parts possible. I will see how much a comparible system would cost to build.
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redice
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21. April 2006 @ 18:06 |
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ok thanks
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21. April 2006 @ 19:44 |
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I was looking at parts to try and compare but they do not list enough details to be exact if it would be cheaper to build it yourself. I know i am very happy that i built my first and second computer than buying a dell as people suggested. Come to find out after building my computer dell only load Windows XP that has some type of dell serial.
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redice
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21. April 2006 @ 20:13 |
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@pollution
would u help me piece to together a computer.
heres what i would like it to have:
p4
at least 3.0 ghz
1gig of memory
200 or 300 gig hardrive
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21. April 2006 @ 21:04 |
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I am sorry but i couldnt help but put together a top of the line machine at those specs you stated.
The total price including Windows Media Center is probably a little less than 1500 with shipping. This is running 2 SATA hard drives at 3GB/s with raid 0. This is what you want if you are going to be doing videos. The only problem with raid 0 is that if one hard drive fails you lose all the info on both. So as long as the information is not that important you should run raid 0. So it would be running at 6GB/s! I do not have a machine that fast yet :(. Here are the specs.
Wow, that came out a little more expensive but i can almost gaurantee you that there is a differenc in quality. I can say that because i built my machine and i know a guy that bought his from walmart with all these great specs and my machine kicks his bad.
motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813157086
processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116212
cpu cooler, aftermarket cooler is a good idea
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835186134
best thermal paste there is!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835100007
RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231012
Case, this case is quiet, 2 120mm fans! these are big with plenty of air flow
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811129145
power supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103937
hard drives, thats right, you need 2 to run raid
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148105
dvd drives, get 2 if you want, i calculated 2 in the price
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827101010
Video card, this one is ok, you would want better one for video games, i believe this has dual monitor which is really good, one analog and one digital output
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102691
19" LCD monitor, fast response time with a decent contrast ratio
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824001067
Operating System
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16832102357
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21. April 2006 @ 21:06 |
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I am sure it could be priced down to match walmarts computer but you are going to lose some performance. That is one kick ass machine there.
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redice
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21. April 2006 @ 21:14 |
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@pollution
wow thanks but that pc that you put put together is nice but the 1500 dollar price tag is to high,
do you thinks i can build a pc for around 700 dollars with the things i listed?
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21. April 2006 @ 21:17 |
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I think you could, but the performance would be cut.
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redice
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21. April 2006 @ 21:22 |
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ok but will the performancebe better or lower then the first computer that i have listed a link too?
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21. April 2006 @ 21:52 |
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also a AMD processor would be less expensive than Intel and better preformance.
do you have a local PC shop around? that can do one for you.
your always better off building a system than buying a box system ,save your money for a little while and get what you want you will be much happier in the long run belive me
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22. April 2006 @ 02:01 |
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i7 3770 12GB ram terrabyte sata drive 1 750Gb sata drive 285GTX graphics Sony dvdwriter same NZXT Nemesis case
Still playing Black Hawk Down why did I upgrade?
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22. April 2006 @ 02:18 |
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I have some writing to do.
Firstly, avoid Pentium Ds, they're rubbish processors, especially the 920. They may get a lot faster with dual core optimisation, but for now they're very slow and they use phenomenal amounts of electricity and run very hot. Athlon64s (or better still Athlon64 X2s) are far better chips.
Unlike, pollution I did get the second link to work, but you'd be best off with the first for DVD backups. You'd probably want 1GB of RAM though, not 512. I disagree with the crappy statement, but you can indeed find better value PCs if you build one yourself or buy one from a wholesaler.
If you can home build a PC, that's great, you'll save yourself a fortune. As long as you follow all the instructions, there's little that you can do wrong. Don't worry, failures involving nasty component failures are 95% of the time faulty stuff, very rarely builder error.
Stick with us and you can't go wrong! ;-)
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would u help me piece to together a computer.
heres what i would like it to have:
p4
at least 3.0 ghz
1gig of memory
200 or 300 gig hardrive
I'd personally do this:
Athlon64 3200+ (Socket 939)
Asus A8N-E Motherboard
1024MB Single Module Corsair Value Select PC3200 RAM
250GB Samsung Spinpoint S-ATA 8MB Buffer Hard disk
High quality (e.g. Antec, enermax, zalman, seasonic) 500W PSU
ATI Radeon X800GTO Graphics
LG DVD writer
At newegg, this lot:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103535
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131530
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145310
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822152025
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102684
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103936
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827136064
COmes to $673. This may be slightly above 700 once you've chosen a case (get one without a PSU fitted, I've added a better one in that list) but not by much, and will run everything very well.
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22. April 2006 @ 07:44 |
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@sammorris,
I agree on the AMD X2 processor. I have the 3800+ X2 and it can compress a 8GB dvd to 4.3GB in ~7 minutes with DVD Shrink after having a disc image on my hard drive. DVD Shrink maxes out both cores when compressing.
But why would you not go with two sticks of 512MB RAM for a total of 1GB with a lower timing?
Also, wouldn't he want raid 0 for faster trasfer time to and from the hard drive?
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22. April 2006 @ 07:46 |
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RAID0 gets complicated, introduces reliability problems and generally boxes you in with what you want to do with your data. I find it best avoided, despite the fact that I use it (partly due to that reason as well, I haven't enjoyed the experience).
A single stick of memory just allows for upgrading more, that's all. Dual channel may work better, but you can get low latency RAM in either form.
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