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22. April 2006 @ 08:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@sammorris,
My brother is going to be buying a computer soon and he wants to do video editing and music editing. I planned on setting up raid 0 but you would suggest no raid?


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22. April 2006 @ 09:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@sammorris

Thats look like a great pc but i was wondering is s-ata beter then ata? also what would be a good case to put all this in?

@aabbccdd

i do believe i have a few around me and i was thinking about looking into that.

@pcrepair

thans for the build. However i'm not in the uk i'm in the usa.

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22. April 2006 @ 09:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
redice , go with sammorris advice on parts which you can buy online get you a good case and price out at your local PC shop for the labor ,should only be around two hours at the most then you have a kickass machine that will blow away the first one you posted without speeding much more money and you can also upgrade down the road, this is def. your best option!!! our service is free of course lol!!
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22. April 2006 @ 11:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Pollution: No RAID would probably be better.
Aabbccdd: Yep Yep Yep Yep to all of that!
Redice: S-ATA is better and faster than traditional IDE/PATA and look for the NZXT trinity or Raidmax Cobra.



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22. April 2006 @ 14:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What exactly are the problems when you run raid 0?


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22. April 2006 @ 15:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well, although RAID0 is up to 90% faster than using the drives separately, firstly, if one drive fails, all data is lost. Secondly, the RAID array is controller specific in most cases, so if you take your two or more drives to a different mobo, chances are it won't work, and thirdly you need software to run the operation, and of course if anything happens to that software for whatever reason, you can't use your RAID array unless it's reinstated - a bit tricky if your OS is on it.



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22. April 2006 @ 15:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So, if i was going to run raid 0 i will have 3 hard drives. 1 that is by itself with the OS on it so it is a stable system, and the other 2 on raid 0 to transfer information super fast. Would that be a good idea?


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It's what I did, and as long as you're not changing motherboards any time soon, will work just fine, but of course the data reliability issue still exists (though to be honest, if one drive fails in normal mode you still lose half your data, so I don't really see much of a difference)



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25. April 2006 @ 14:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@sammorris

is this a good case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811146015 to put all of this in?
Athlon64 3200+ (Socket 939)
Asus A8N-E Motherboard
1024MB Single Module Corsair Value Select PC3200 RAM
250GB Samsung Spinpoint S-ATA 8MB Buffer Hard disk
High quality (e.g. Antec, enermax, zalman, seasonic) 500W PSU
ATI Radeon X800GTO Graphics
LG DVD writer


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25. April 2006 @ 14:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you were to ask me what case without stating an example, I would have said that one. That's exactly the case I recommend to people. Fabulous stuff, well done!



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25. April 2006 @ 16:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok thanks sammorris
i also happened to be looking around and found this pchttp://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=999953500050005&typ... with all most the same same things that you said i should use it i build it.( i know if i build it. it would be better?)
what do u think about it?


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26. April 2006 @ 08:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
bump


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26. April 2006 @ 08:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes alright, be patient, I'm in the UK and go to school, so I'm only really able to reply to posts from 5pm here (mid-day on your east coast, add or subtract the relevant hours!)

Let's take that PC point by point:
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AMD Athlon? 64 processor 3700+
Good start, very powerful CPU.
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1GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM
Ample for most things until Vista arrives, so yep, still doing well.
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Windows XP Media Center 2005 software
No problem here either.
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double-layer DVD±RW/CD-RW drive
Tick.
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200GB hard drive
Tick.
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NVIDIA GeForce 6100 graphics
Here's where the problems start. The 6100 is an integrated graphics chip, and thus utterly inappropriate for gaming. Most off the shelf PCs have poor graphics cards, since they assume people don't play games. It will do fine for watching movies and playing mp3s, but for games that's a big no no.
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9-in-1 media manager and Micro-BTX cooling technology
I don't know much about BTX but it sounds worringly non-upgradeable, so you might want to be careful about that.
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19" flat-panel monitor with 16 ms response time and 450:1 contrast ratio
An Average monitor, but when you're ordering from best buy, why not buy the one you want rather than being locked in with the one with the bundle?
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compact PIXMA photo printer with ChromaLife100 technology
# Geek Squad? 10' USB 2.0 cable with gold contacts; 10-outlet surge protector with high 3000-joule rating
All fine really, good printer, nice to have surge protector included.

Overall, the PC is OK, but you'll desperately need to upgrade the graphics card, so why not get one with a decent card to start with?



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26. April 2006 @ 10:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok thanks sammorris

so i see that computer is ok but i happened to stop by a local area pc shop in my area that does custom builds computer. so heres what i was going to was take in the list of the parts you gave me and see what they will charge me to do it, but was wondering is howe fast will i be able to back up a dvd using the Athlon64 3200+( which is 2.0ghz)? also would 3.0 ghz be faster or will it be about the same?
is this a good monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824104001 ?


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26. April 2006 @ 11:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
3Ghz? What's this? You haven't made that clear. That monitor looks OK, but LCD monitors shouldn't really still be suffering from dead pixels, that's poor. Noticeable or not, it speaks volumes about the quality of manufacture, and more importantly QC. 19" LCDs should really be costing more than that.



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26. April 2006 @ 12:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok sammorris
well what kind of monitor would be best to get?
also is there a more powerful one of these Athlon64 3200+ ?


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26. April 2006 @ 12:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here's the AMD processors that are more powerful than the 3200:

Athlon64 3500+
Athlon64 3700+
Athlon64 3800+
Athlon64 4000+
Athlon64 X2 3800+
Athlon64 X2 4200+
Athlon64 X2 4400+
Athlon64 X2 4600+
Athlon64 X2 4800+
Athlon64 FX-51
Athlon64 FX-53
Athlon64 FX-55
Athlon64 FX-57
Athlon64 FX-60

Opteron 144
Opteron 146
Opteron 148
Opteron 165
Opteron 170
Opteron 175
Opteron 180

Pick one!

As for monitors, the Viewsonic VX912 is good.



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26. April 2006 @ 13:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok sammorris thank you for all your help and to all ther others aswell


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26. April 2006 @ 13:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You're welcome and good luck.



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redice Veiwsonic is def. the way to go heres the web page


http://viewsonic.com/

you rip times are going to be about the same with the 3200+ compare to any higher end CPU ,the memorey is important which a gig should work fine ,you can always add another gig later. my times to transcode and burn are 10 to 12 mins. for shorter movies and 20 to 25 mins. for longer movies using clonedvd 2 with anydvd so your times should be about that also

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27. April 2006 @ 00:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
and more importantly QC. 19" LCDs should really be costing more than that.

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tesco have a 19 inch for that price :)
wouldn't buy it lol but they have it


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Still playing Black Hawk Down why did I upgrade?
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27. April 2006 @ 03:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
And how likely is it you'll recognise the brand name of it?



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27. April 2006 @ 09:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@aabbccdd or sammorris



well how high of a cpu would i need to cut those times in half?


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27. April 2006 @ 09:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Exactly in half? Hard to say, but come dual core optimisation, any X2 will do it handsomely, probably cut more than half off.



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27. April 2006 @ 09:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok sammorris so i would need to go with a x2 to really cut the time down. is a amd x2 higher in price?
i was also going to take this list
Athlon64 3200+ (Socket 939)
Asus A8N-E Motherboard
1024MB Single Module Corsair Value Select PC3200 RAM
250GB Samsung Spinpoint S-ATA 8MB Buffer Hard disk
High quality (e.g. Antec, enermax, zalman, seasonic) 500W PSU
ATI Radeon X800GTO Graphics
to alocalarea pc shop in my area. is there anything that i should add to the list?



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