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27. April 2006 @ 10:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah the Dual-core are higher in price the AMD Opteron 175 Demark x 2 runs about 509.00 ,but if you arent gaming you really dont need a Dual-Core unless you have the money to spend ,just copy and paste the CPUs sammorris listed in newegg to get the prices and go from there, make sure your running an extra fan or two when you build that system also
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27. April 2006 @ 10:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey aabbccdd
what do u think of this pc http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=999953500050005&typ...
i already got sammorris views on it.


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27. April 2006 @ 12:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, for high performance and relatively good value, go for the Athlon64 X2 3800+, but on reflection, will you be adding memory a lot?
If Not, you may want to go Dual Channel with that memory, it'll work out better as long as you won't want to upgrade more than once.

I know you already have my views on the system, but I really cannot stress enough how important a real, dedicated graphics card is. You could always add one, but when you're doing things that way, why not get the job done right?
(sorry to dwell on this!)



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@sammorris
yeah i do plan on upgrade the memory to at least 2 gigs but at first i will only started off with one gig.

On the other hand i would really like a custom build pc. however i don't know that much about putting together a pc so i have been looking at other opitions such what a local computer shop in my area would charge me to build the one that you have help me put together but if the price is to high i will have to look at other opitions such as the link to the pc that almost has the same things as the custom one. do u understand where i'm comming from with all this?


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27. April 2006 @ 16:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
im building my own machine ight now to and my machine is only gonna cost me 400 bucks it has a amd 64 chip for now with a 939 mobo and its compatible with all ddr mem so you can use what u have right now or purchase new which ever u please
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28. April 2006 @ 11:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Preferably none of them because they all have integrated graphics!!!! Grrr.
You have to be careful with premade PCs, a lot of them won't allow upgraded GPUs, either for slot, space, cooling or power reasons, and when you start replacing other stuff, things get difficult as you're dealing with not-very-modifiable OEM stuff. I'd personally recommend building your own or finding a shop that will custom build you one.

If you must though, the Gateway from Best Buy is the best buy.



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28. April 2006 @ 11:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
if youd rather just buy one i would stick with the first of the 3 simply because i like the amd personally and its at a reasonable price in my opinoin
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28. April 2006 @ 13:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
True, but the other deal is more powerful, comes with more kit and is barely any more expensive.



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28. April 2006 @ 14:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey sammorris

i was able to find a shop to custom build me the computer.


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28. April 2006 @ 14:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You will be happy you did after having that computer. :)


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28. April 2006 @ 14:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ pollution

yea i think i will be too.


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28. April 2006 @ 15:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here is a budget system i put together which is sufficient for RIPPING and for GAMING and is around $650 before shipping!

https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=3182887&WishListTitle=BUDGET+BEAST

Add your own monitor and you have a nifty system with lots of potential when the time for upgrading rolls around.
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29. April 2006 @ 03:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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I wouldn't really call it a beast... more like a gaming computer with training wheels. For another $400 you could get a 3800+, and upgrade that sad video card
I agree 80% with this guy, the graphics card is very slow, you could use something like an X800GTO or 6800GT for not much more, and the CPU could cheaply be upped to a 3500+.



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29. April 2006 @ 09:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
redice, the bottom line is the box systems arent going to get it done in the end ,cant upgrade etc. building your system is your best option for sure then a year down the road you can upgrade very easy. take your time ,its worth it in the long run
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29. April 2006 @ 09:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Despite various hiccups and calamaties, my off-the-shelf system proved quite upgradable, although I pretty much did anything and everything, there's only the original CPU, motherboard and DVD-ROM drive left!

But generally, I'd advise against buying a premade system that needs upgrading, I was forced to change my case due to airflow, and also forced to change my power supply when changing the graphics card (and that's where problems began). If you can do it how you want it to start with, do it. Pre-built systems are fine, but only go with custom-built ones, not standard models, they're never enough.



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29. April 2006 @ 11:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Guy says his budget is strictly $650 and thats what i worked with.....of course you can add or upgrade this and that and get a great deal for a few hundred bucks more. First thing anyone should do when they build a computer is do a needs assessment and the first part of that is what you NEED your budget to be. Anyone that proposes the guy spend hundreds more when he has said several times he cannot isn't helping him out. I agree that it is better to build a system and the one i proposed is one that i have built quite a few of and so i know the components work great together. It is also quite upgradeable if he does wish to invest more money in it later. If you think you have something better for him that MEETS his specific budget, then lets hear it!
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29. April 2006 @ 12:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@sammorris & aabbccdd and to the others

i was able to find a shop to custom build me the computer.
Also thanks for all you guys help.



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29. April 2006 @ 12:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
great ,let us know how it turns out you will have a very nice machine for the money .much better than any of the boxed systems
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29. April 2006 @ 12:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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i was able to find a shop to custom build me the computer.
They're the words I want to hear!



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29. April 2006 @ 13:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lol sammorris looks like we finally got though and isnt it fun spending someone elses money LMAO!!!!

redice ,should be about 2 hours labor is all since you will have all the parts. and all the parts sammorris picked out will be great the only thing i would do different is go with a BenQ drive instead of the LG for a few bucks more. thats your call. looks like it on sale this week also this is a great deal excellent drive.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827101010

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29. April 2006 @ 17:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@sammorris
yea i believe that i will have a great computer.

@aabbccdd

yeah i know about the BenQ and i have already order a BenQ 1650. Looks like i pick the right time to buy it too cuz newegg had free three day shipping on it for this weekend only. Do you have a BenQ drive?


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29. April 2006 @ 17:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
NO i have 2 Plextors PX-716As (per my sig) ,but they run about 130.00 each retail which was over your budget thats why i didnt mention it.considered the best drives on the market
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29. April 2006 @ 18:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@aabbccdd

o ok i see. so i take it the BenQ drives are 2nd best to the Plextors PX-716As because i see around the forums and just about everybody has a BenQ drive or are getting them.


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So whats the final breakdown of what you bought?
 
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