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crowy
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27. July 2006 @ 04:31 |
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@dazila,
Did you remember to install the memory???!!!LOL.
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27. July 2006 @ 04:35 |
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Yes i did cause it did work 4 bout 10minutes the first time
not a problem anymore my p4 is doing as well as a "3800 should be"
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27. July 2006 @ 04:40 |
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Ooooh, bad luck for you!
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27. July 2006 @ 04:45 |
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@dazila,
Could have been the chip or the board,it happens,whether AMD or Intel.Did you use the same memory on both boards?Could have also been a memory compatibility issue with the AMD board.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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27. July 2006 @ 04:47 |
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dazila,Noticed in your sig:
2176 mb ddr2 how do you have 2176mb ram?
Just worked it out,1024+1024+128?
Is it running dual channel?
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27. July 2006 @ 04:54 |
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1x1gbmb 2x512mb 1x128mb ( dont no y i got it just waste of my 4th slot )
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27. July 2006 @ 05:41 |
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FIHSNERD: not PCmark, 3dmark, there's a diference. You should be looking at at least 5 figures in 3dmark03.
Estuansis: Not really, your X2 is 2600 and 3dmark is quite CPU weighted, me being only at 2200mhz would mean I should score lower and I do. The X1900XT is very good but it's not enough abvoe an X850XT to overcome your singificantly faster clocked CPU.
dazila: I would buy an AMD becasuse you obviously had a faulty motherboard, IT IS ALMOST NEVER THE PROCESSOR. Funnily enough everybody I know who has an AMD has had no problems with that part of their system, neither did you. That RAM setup just proves you have no idea about these matters. Your system would run better without that 128MB chip in, and probably better still with just the 1GB chip, seriously. Having a matches set of 1GB sticks in there would be more expensive, but not by very much, and it would run so much better.
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27. July 2006 @ 09:26 |
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sammorris,
That's what I said. OC your CPU a bit and give it another test. My much higher clocked CPU does indeed give me an advantage even with your faster video.
Even with a lower ceiling than my 3800+ you should easily be able to hit 2.4 or 2.5GHz with that 4200+. Try it because you're only running two 3500s right now. Not very powerful. But I'm using a close match to two 4000s and I've got power to spare.
It's worth it. Just be careful :)
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27. July 2006 @ 09:39 |
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Not very powerful?
NOT VERY POWERFUL?
I've mentioned around I'm actually holding off on the OC for now, it's fast enough, and being a prebuild it could do without lots of warranty expirations. I may try it a bit later on in its life once I'm at university but not this early.
In other news, I have the pricing of both Conroe and post-price-drop AM2 chips from one of my local suppliers. From these I've made a calculation.
If the 1866mhz E6300 is level with the 3800+ it needs to be 45% faster to be better value
If the 2133mhz E6400 is level with the 4200+ it needs to be 38% faster to be better value
If the 2400mhz E6600 is level with the 4600+ it needs to be 48% faster to be better value
If the 2666mhz E6700 is level with the 5000+ it needs to be 84% faster to be better value
If the 2933mhz X6800 is to be compared with the FX62, it needs to be 33% faster to be better value.
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27. July 2006 @ 12:16 |
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27. July 2006 @ 12:23 |
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The grain of salt isn't, the price cuts have been made and at a few places, the reduced chips are in stock!
X2 3800+: Previously £180 now £110
X2 4200+: Previously £240 now £140
X2 4600+: Previously £350 now £170
X2 5000+: Previously £500 now £225!!!
FX-62 has also dropped a bit from £750 to £550.
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27. July 2006 @ 14:53 |
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sammorris
maybe value is not all there is. stock, the 6300 conroe outbenches the fx 64 55. check out tom's hardware amoung others you the benches. But yes for value, all of a sudden you can do a super build with either amd or intel chips with the falling prices!
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27. July 2006 @ 15:05 |
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Yeah for sure, but if THG's prelim benches for conroe are accurate, and they eventually become available, I may just make a second folding system out of one, they look awesome!
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27. July 2006 @ 15:43 |
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dazila,ok, remove the 1024mb chip and the 128mb chip.Put one of the 512mb chips in slot one and the other 512mb chip in slot three.At the moment you will be running 2t as opposed to 1t and single channel not dual channel..You will find everything will be faster.
Iv'e got a feeling when you had that AMD set up,only the 128mb chip was being recognized,that explains why it was so slow especially if you have a lot of programs running at startup.
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27. July 2006 @ 16:32 |
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Hey guys, i got my monitor in today, and it kicks ass... i am so impressed by the size of it...
i am going to order the rest of my stuff later. have u guys herd of e buyer? i saw the website when i was on price grabbers... they are cheaper than new egg on some things.....
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27. July 2006 @ 17:57 |
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i re did my score after i got my lcd in digital and it was 2232.. :) DVI really does help.. :)
ok...
KOOL... when is conroe comming out? :p
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27. July 2006 @ 21:30 |
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The nVENTIVCooling System is capable of cooling a CPU with full load down to approximately ?45 degrees. The low temperature makes it possible to gain a large extra CPU Performance. The system is both advanced and simple at the same time. While allowing easy assembling, the basic technology behind the principles is very advanced. The Cooling System consists of several key elements (see below) and they all play their part in the cooling process. The most advanced component is the micro freezer. The micro freezer is what makes cooling of CPUs attractive because it insures extra performance with out compromising the stability. The 'engine' in the cooling process is the condensing unit. The condensing unit is located under the Enlight cabinet, making the Prometeia easy to transport and much more stable when placed.
Full story here:
http://kit-tronics.com/xcart/customer/product.php?productid=3019
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27. July 2006 @ 22:03 |
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crowey
Seems to be a very expensive AIR CONDITIONIER! It would be easier to run a tube from one of the ac outlets.. will do the same job!
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27. July 2006 @ 23:00 |
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@baltekmi,
Thats true,
but you would need 2 tubes, one to cool the cpu and one to extract any humidity out of the case,and our air conditioner is about 10 metres from the computer so 20 metres of tubing running through the house probably wouldn't impress the wife.Plus the power bill would go through the roof!!LOL.
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27. July 2006 @ 23:03 |
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baltekmi,
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It would be easier to run a tube from one of the ac outlets.. will do the same job!
Not even close. Air coming out of an air conditoner is around 55F. This thing cools the CPU to -45! It doesn't make any heat in a normal sense. Heat removal is different. That's why we need good coolers. You take the CPU down to -45 and there is no heat to speak of. It's there but it's gone so quickly the sensor doesn't know that it's there!
You could achieve better results with Liquid Nitrogen, but the pressures caused by having a boiling point of around -213F would make it a very hazardous method. You would need some very heavy pipe, indeed. The environment around you would be another consideration too as the whole room would get very cold. The piping would have to be wrapped in heavy layers of insolation, or they would find you in the morning frozen to your desk! That's some very cold stuff!
Happy Computering,
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27. July 2006 @ 23:14 |
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Hi all,
I noticed aside from the price that they are also out of stock.Is there that much demand for this product and who aside from a very wealthy overclocking fanatic would have use for it?
Main System- Amd/64 3800x2 currently@ 2.5ghz. Asus A8N-E,win.xp-pro.4x1gb.Ocz platnium ddr 400,Maxtor 40gb.& 250gb.ide & 2x W.D.250 sata,Benq 1650V dvd Reader & Benq DW-1655 Writer,EVGA Geforce 7600gs,Creative Audigy-LS,Antec 750w psu. Vizio 37"hdtv monitor 1360x768@75hz.
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27. July 2006 @ 23:50 |
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FIHSNERD: Yeah ebuyer have a very strong newegg-like presence in the UK, and they are in the US but not so popular,they are very cheap. Conroe has come out, but you can't buy one because of availability problems, no such issue from AMD!
Crowy, baltekmi: Or you could justhave a well set-up case with a good cooler, and save a fortune, getting almost the same result! Heat is rarely the issue with many overclocks, especially not with Conroes, 65W must make them cool as ice now coolers have been made to deal with the 130W from smithfields!!
Theonejrs: Lol I foolishly assumed 45 was celsius! That's insane, 8ºC. What's the point?
Boxwrench: Let's just say most of us are happy with our Zalman coolers, and lots of us are overclocking fanatics!
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27. July 2006 @ 23:58 |
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sammorris,
I'm not quite a fanatic...yet,but I am working on it!LOL!
As for cooling I think I'll give one of those Artic freezers a try,I've heard some good things about them and for $25.00 they seem to be a good deal.
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They're awesome, if I only I could have had one!
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28. July 2006 @ 00:07 |
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FIHSNERD,
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Theonejrs: Lol I foolishly assumed 45 was celsius! That's insane, 8ºC. What's the point?
At those temps, electrons move very fast when excited. That's why Supercomputers have super cooling like that, only much colder! They also have some pretty impressive plumbing coming out of the case!
My New Arctic Freezer 7 Pro will do me nicely! The Zalman 9500 will do nicely for the Prescott as well!
Happy Computering,
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