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29. July 2006 @ 01:20 |
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I am well aware of the operation limitations of PSUs. I also understand that temps over the safe limit of a component will degrade it severely.
The thing is that you are having different problems if your system is running on max load above 134*F. Better cooling is in order for sure.
@ crowy,
Even at max CPU load my rig hits about 450W. So If my 620W Enermax Liberty isn't good enough then you, my good sir,... are a poopie head.(Oh, burn!)
But seriously, that 1KW PSU is amazing. Has individual testing and 15 drive out-puts. That's serious enthusiast fair right there.
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29. July 2006 @ 02:08 |
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Just to add my $0.02, the Hiper 580W units that we advocate on aD, although they are mopdular, they use gold-plated aviation-grade connectors, so they don't suffer from the resistance and poor connectivity problems that other modular units suffer from!
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29. July 2006 @ 05:27 |
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ok because i was wondering about that...
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29. July 2006 @ 06:47 |
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As long as you buy a decent unit, you don't have any connectivity woes to worry about.
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He_Man
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29. July 2006 @ 09:20 |
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All u amd lovers.ha ha intel is the best.Intel have a new processor called intel core 2 extreme which embarasses the athloan 64 FX by a great deal.
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29. July 2006 @ 09:46 |
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He_Man ---This is how you act when your mom lets you on the computer?
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29. July 2006 @ 09:49 |
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@He_Man- it also costs 400 dollars cdn. more than the fx-62
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29. July 2006 @ 09:57 |
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All u amd lovers.ha ha Intel is the best.Intel have a new processor called Intel core 2 extreme which embarrasses the athon64 FX by a great deal.
lol boxwrench exactly what i was thinking he must be 14 or something.amd has 80% of the market share and is going to remain strong. sure the new Intel Conroe is going to be a great chip but with the amd price drops (the 3800x2 being 169.00 dollars) they will be in good shape .early 2007 when the amd 3s hit the market should be interesting
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He_Man
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29. July 2006 @ 10:39 |
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lol so its about money on having a great chip now then next year.You are all just probably jealous that intel is the best
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29. July 2006 @ 10:53 |
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Ah, but one thing to remember if it wasn't for AMD Intel would still have the market and you wouldn't be able to afford that new processor. My little 2 cents but after health care costs a 1/2 cent Chris
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29. July 2006 @ 10:59 |
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yes i would. :)
If they charged that much for it and had all the market.The government would get involved.Same thing happened with microsoft being an "illegal monopoly" in 98.
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29. July 2006 @ 11:04 |
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ChrisC586,
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My little 2 cents but after health care costs a 1/2 cent Chris
That's a pretty good performance ratio! LOL
Happy Computering,
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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29. July 2006 @ 11:05 |
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The AMD processors are dropping their picess very quickly at newegg, just yesterday the AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Manchester 2000MHz HT Socket 939 Dual Core Processor was $199.00 and now its $179.00 (open box).
I will wait another day to see what it drops to and pick one up.
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29. July 2006 @ 11:16 |
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He_Man,
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The government would get involved.
Please! If the government (aka:the FFG) gets involved we will have $2000 CPUs and $10,000 computers. Every time the government sticks their nose into something, it winds up costing more, so please don't be giving them anymore bright ideas!
Happy Computering,
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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29. July 2006 @ 11:18 |
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lol yeah.I hate the government
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29. July 2006 @ 12:16 |
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good point Russ LMAO!!!!
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29. July 2006 @ 12:32 |
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@theone,
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And that would be? Let me know and I'll keep an eye out.
Well,I suppose whenever the price is back at $25.00 or lower.
I'm still running the prescott @3.6ghz. and it's been getting quite a workout,while encoding dvds the temp will shoot up around 50c and after the task is completed it drops back to around 40c. I am interested in seeing what kind of a difference the Freezer will make during idle as well as under heavy use.
My 3800x2 (now running @2.6ghz)exhibits almost identical temps. both during idle as well as in heavy use,so I am hoping the "Freezer" will help me there as well.
For those prices I don't think I will be disappointed especially since the Freezers are supposed to be a bit less noisey than what I am using at the moment.
So,yes! If you spot the Freezer 64 on sale,I would appreciate it if you would let me know.
Thanks,B.W.
Main System- Amd/64 3800x2 currently@ 2.5ghz. Asus A8N-E,win.xp-pro.4x1gb.Ocz platnium ddr 400,Maxtor 40gb.& 250gb.ide & 2x W.D.250 sata,Benq 1650V dvd Reader & Benq DW-1655 Writer,EVGA Geforce 7600gs,Creative Audigy-LS,Antec 750w psu. Vizio 37"hdtv monitor 1360x768@75hz.
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29. July 2006 @ 14:34 |
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LOL he hasn't even got the name right! Dude, do us a favour and be quiet, unless you can say why "intel are best".
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29. July 2006 @ 19:10 |
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It all depends on how much money you have I guess.
Sometimes when I talk about my "life savings" I sound big-headed but I am not trying to. I'm just sort of proud of my system and that I got the best price/performance ratio possible at the time. Even when I got my X2 3800+ at around $300 it was still a good deal compared to anything intel was offering. The Conroe might be a good chip but will the performance match the price? I think not.
And I repeat, the Conroe doesn't have so big an advantage over AMD that some stepping and clockspeed improvements won't fix it handily. Maybe even 2 x 2MB cache won't be out of the question. Even then, the cheaper Core processors will still be competing with intels other stock and AMD's dual and single cores. It's not as huge a threat to AMD as some people make it sound like.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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29. July 2006 @ 23:44 |
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Estuansis,
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Even when I got my X2 3800+ at around $300 it was still a good deal compared to anything intel was offering.
It was the same for me at the time. The D940 gave me the most bang for the buck being more than $60 cheaper than the x2 3800+. Asus P5P800 SE motherboard and the Intel D940 came to under $375 including tax and shipping!
I just took it up to 3.86. Not bad for a 3.20, especially since I've tightened up the memory settings a bit. Here's the math bench.
And the memory bandwidth.
I think it's looking very good. Right up there in x2 4800+ country. I may try 3.90 tomorrow!
Happy Computering,
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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30. July 2006 @ 11:17 |
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for all u computing building wizkids.Theres a really good pc magazine called custompc which in the latest issue builds a windows vista capable pc for £250.Interesting.Also advertises parts,computers and laptops at good prices.
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30. July 2006 @ 12:09 |
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Vista capable machines aren't hard. Fully Vista Compliant PCs are what cost the money.
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30. July 2006 @ 12:29 |
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you cant go wrong though with £250.Its running windows vista beta 2 not just capable of.
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30. July 2006 @ 12:32 |
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Yeah, I could easily build a PC capable of running Vista for very little All you really need is a 64-bit CPU, 1GB of RAM and a proper graphics accelerator. Thinking of an X800GTO, 1GB Corsair Value Stuff and a Sempron64, those three would be maybe £180, cheapo case, PSU and opticals could make the PC £260 tops including a keyboard and mouse, and that'd be fully vista compliant!
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30. July 2006 @ 12:39 |
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ha ha.still not £250 :)
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