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30. July 2006 @ 23:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well folks,

Here's the new 3DMarks. Amazing what it does when you kick up the CPU 1.5MHz higher than you thought it could go.



Gonna have to buy some games!

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31. July 2006 @ 00:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dazila: even an AMD fanboy would, because the X6800 is £780 and the X2 3800+ is £110. I could have change from 7 3800+s over one X6800.
Baltekmi: I agree with you, 80%??? That'd just make me root for Intel instead! Except maybe I wouldn't... LOL Intel has the conroe, AMD has... reasonably priced processors? Despite seeing those benches I'm a little sceptical that a 6300 will outpace an FX-62 stock.
Theone: Holy moly! I got 9000 tops with my X800 unit, and 18,000ish tops with my X1900XT! That's incredible!



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He_Man,
The problem with buying vista now is that by the time it's viable for everyone, it will be BluRay rev.12 and won't be backwards compatible. As far as you being ready or being right on the front of technology. The trick is you really are ahead of the tech but you just don't realize it! Because of your knowlege you should know that it's going to be best to wait on BluRay, especially with all the delays and problems they've had with it. Most of it centered around being able to play it's own BluRay discs. The copy protection scheme is so complex that any possible error and it don't work. Since this has been an ongoing major problem and the Movie Industry has invested a considerable sum towards BluRay, there's tremendous pressure for Sony. That's why we'll see so many revisions and patches. That's why with what you know, you should just continue to save your money until BluRay has all the bugs out, and then buy it at a much cheaper price! Just my thoughts!

Happy Computering,
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31. July 2006 @ 00:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
However, HD-DVD is so full of DRM rubbish that even the TV HD-DVD players take a minute to boot up!



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31. July 2006 @ 00:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
BTW the HD-DVD player as down to 499.00 Toshiba
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31. July 2006 @ 00:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ONLY $499? Lol You still won't catch me buying one!



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31. July 2006 @ 00:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Still have'nt heard anything on a good HD-TV CARD.HELLO,heeelllloooooo anybody.Got my FIOS Coming tomorrow.In need of a good capture card,right now I'm useing A out dated ATI All In Wonder 9000Pro
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31. July 2006 @ 00:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Then you'll be on AGP, right?
In which case, this is the best sort of card for AGP you can buy:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102492



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31. July 2006 @ 00:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well the quest for 4.0 is over and I lost! Made it through the post, all the way to about 10 seconds past the welcome screen. Tink! And then it shut down. At this point I'm not willing to raise the voltage beyond 1.375V. not until I get this MB replaced by Asus and I can depend on the temp sensors in case of a problem. This wasn't a heat shutdown, it was data error. It also booted right up, something it wouldn't have done if the shut-down was thermal. Usually when that happens I have toi shut down the power supply in order for it to re-boot. I'll find a way. Just give me time!

Happy Computering,
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31. July 2006 @ 00:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Keep at it, theone, you just know 4.0 is possible! :D



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31. July 2006 @ 00:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@theonejrs,
I hate that "tink".LOL!!!!



If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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31. July 2006 @ 01:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Don't we all. I also remember when I had a thermal shut down it needed the PSU resetting. With data error it isn't the mobo telling the PSU there's an emergency, shut down immediately, it's just giving the shut down signal, because there's "nothing more to do" I suppose.



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31. July 2006 @ 01:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, I went back and locked the memory at 320. This brings it to 405MHz at 4.0. This time it again shut down, only sooner, during the Windows XP sign. I figured I'de try the memory speed because it's running at 482MHz, but memory is not the problem. I will probably be able to make it work by raising the CPU voltage but I'm going to wait for a replacement MB before I try it. I want to be certain the the temp sensors on the MB work first. I sure don't want to be comunicating by smoke signals!

Happy Computering,
theone


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31. July 2006 @ 01:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lol fair enough, what voltage are you at now versus what it started at?



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31. July 2006 @ 01:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sam,

I think it started at 1.275 and I've upped it to 1.375. I've been led to believe that 1.4 or so is the safe voltage limit for ny CPU so once I get a new MB I'll try it. If it doesn't work then, It will stay a 3.90! I'm not at all unhappy especially to have come this far when I planned far less!

Happy Computering,
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31. July 2006 @ 01:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@theone,
Try taking out 2 memory chips as I mentioned earlier.Leave 1 chip in slot one and and 1 chip in slot 3. Lower your timings and cpu/memory divider settings gradually until you get into windows,don't touch the voltages.The worst that can happen is more restarts.Worth a try??



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Absolutely, and yeah I'd agree 1.4V is probably about the limit, no use destroying all your hard work!



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crowy,
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Try taking out 2 memory chips as I mentioned earlier.Leave 1 chip in slot one and and 1 chip in slot 3. Lower your timings and cpu/memory divider settings gradually until you get into windows,don't touch the voltages.The worst that can happen is more restarts.Worth a try??
I only have 2x512 XMS in it right now and I did lower the timings. Intels don't have a cpu/memory devider that I'm aware of. I did raise the voltage 1 notch to 1.385. I put it back to 1.375 since it runs ok at 3.90 with that voltage. I'll try again when I have a new MB. The temps right now at idle are 25CPU/35MB. I am begining to think that it is the controller for the sensors, rather than the sensors themselves that's bad. I made a recording of the temps in AsusProbe and the MB temp only would read 34,35 & 36C no matter what the CPU temp is, and it's reading to low as well. makes sense as it's hardware!

Like I said, I'll wait for a new MB!

Happy Computering,
theone


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31. July 2006 @ 03:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
whats your comments on this.please take a look

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-51784544344753709&q=windows
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31. July 2006 @ 03:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
damn!!! 35 secs to shut down and boot up and do a search! what are the specs for that comp?

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31. July 2006 @ 05:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
tell me about it.
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31. July 2006 @ 07:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey Guys.... is this a good power supply?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817182041
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31. July 2006 @ 09:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's gotta be a fix, because there are screens that don't even appear and should. No I-RAM would speed up the BIOS either, I'm VERY sceptical of that video. FIHSNERD, the PSU is pretty good, but I can't really speak because I've just vowed not to buy cheap PSUs after what happened to me.



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31. July 2006 @ 09:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What actually is Gigabyte I RAM?
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31. July 2006 @ 10:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It is a herd drive made of RAM.. u have 4 slots on a pci slot i think and u put in ram and that ends up being your hard drive space..

and is that a cheap ps or just a good price? and what is the difference between this and the ermax and hyper?

BTW: can you get a picture of the hyper for me inside the compy?
:)

Thanx

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