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10. August 2006 @ 00:49 |
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10. August 2006 @ 00:53 |
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The E6600 is the one to go for, although only having a x9 multiplier.
Overclocking potential is good with stable air cooling speeds of 4.0GHz reached in tests(Gives a 67% overclock).
It has the 4MB Cache can give as much as 10% performance increase over the 2MB Cache tested with the CPUs clocked down to the same speed.
The X6800 Extreme has a totally unlocked multiplier but only reached the 4.0GHz speed as well (Gives 37% overclock).
The 6600 is also 65W compared to the 6800 at 75W, so runs cooler, probably explains some of the overclocking scores!
As said the only disadvantage of 6600 is the x9 multiplier, this makes getting all the other system parts running at correct speed a pain in the REAR!
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10. August 2006 @ 01:23 |
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Well, I answered before, BigDK has added to the mixture. I tend to avoid recommending extreme editions unless there's a complete ban on overclocking. X6800, FX-62, FX-60, FX-57, none of them have I recommended.
Starting another account after having been suspended is a fast route to bandom, and shows complete disrespet for a forum. I'm not the moderator, so I'm not going to do his job for him, but I will say that suspensions are mae for a reason, it's your duty to respect them if you appreciate afterdawn.
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10. August 2006 @ 01:41 |
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I thought I would add to the mix, by suppling some actual figures for people to use rather than just adding personal opinions, that way people can make informed decisions on what CPU is the best to go for.
I can recommend the FX-60 as a 939 pin CPU, thats probably because I have one and know how it performs in reality, I have mine running stable @ 3.18 GHz 1.56v, passes all system tests such as SuperPi, Prime95.
I wouldn't have recommended it even 2 months ago due the the price, but they are now available for about £330 if you know where to look.
P.S. a 37% overclock as seen on the Extreme is still a very good overclock, I wouldn't describe it as not overclocking very well.
Its just the 6600 with a 67% overclock is exceptional.
Going back to the main title of this thread Intel Vs AMD.
Safe to say that Intel have now got the best performance/price CPU around now, its just a shame that the board availabilty at the moment is limited to the Intel chipsets.
When that issue is corrected (soon by the way) AMD have a serious problem on their hands.
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10. August 2006 @ 02:04 |
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Not just that issue, the supply issue as well don't forget! Wow, an FX-60 at 3.18, that's very impressive. True, the X6800 OCs very well for a top end performer, but if you can get the same speed with an E6600, why buy the extreme?
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10. August 2006 @ 02:34 |
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BigDK,
Any chance of some superPI 1m iteration
and prime 95 screenshots?
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10. August 2006 @ 02:39 |
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It's just occurred to me. £330 you say? for an FX-60 that does nearly 3.2Ghz? I make that around the 6400+ mark. Suppose that's pretty good for £330, but then £250 will eventually buy an E6600, that'll do about 7600+, or with the right board, 8600+.
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10. August 2006 @ 04:48 |
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The E6600 is already available at the £250 price mark, its on my shopping list for the next build.
I'm waiting for a stable DFI LANParty nForce 590 SLI Intel Edition motherboard to come out.
I've never had any allegiance to either AMD or Intel, but wanting the best until now has always steered me towards AMD.
Finally Intel have come up trumps with a top performing CPU that is also well priced.
I tend not to look at the clock speed as 2x what ever it is clocked to, as there aren't too many apps that I use that are dual core capable.
cromy: As for the screen shots, let me know how to get the pics up and I'll do it, as every attempt I've had to date to gets pics up has failed so I gave up trying.
You'll have to settle for Superpi, as I'm currently running the 3 LOTR directors cuts through Rebuilder, and joining 2x 6+GB films in TMPEGenc DVD Author, so I'm not going to sit with Prime95 in the background for however long just to prove its stable.
Best time for 1M to date is 27 Secs on clean install.
Since reload of software best time is 28 Secs.
Prime95 has been run max for 4-5 hours with no errors, rather boring after that.
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10. August 2006 @ 04:56 |
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10. August 2006 @ 05:13 |
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as a folding at home user, I see the dual core aspect as important, and regardless, if you're not interested in dual core tech much, just halve the numbers, all these CPUs are dual core! Posting screenies is easy! Imageshack, then take the "direct link to image" and put in IMG square brackets!
I haven't seen the 6600 readily available, where have you been looking?
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10. August 2006 @ 08:13 |
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10. August 2006 @ 08:23 |
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Yeah Aria's where I was looking for them. However, the only board that I heard is capable of getting the E6600 to 4Ghz is the Asus P5WD-H Deluxe. I don't know exactly why that is, but apparently it's something to do with having the 975X Crossfire chipset, and of course being made by Asus!
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10. August 2006 @ 09:17 |
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10. August 2006 @ 09:27 |
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I heard they were just as good as nvidia ones personally.
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10. August 2006 @ 11:30 |
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To All,
I just put together an Athlon 64 Clawhammer on a Biostar Nvidia 6100 M3 MB. I know nothing about any AMD CPU past the Athlon XP. I need a litle crash (bad word)course on how to set up the Hyper Transport. It's only OC'd 5% until I can figure it all out. Presently it's at the Optimized default settings as I don't want to blow anything up any suggestions on those settings as the manual is almost useless.
It seems to run good and I'm impressed with it's benches, yet it seems slow. I'm getting about 9300 MIPS, 4700 or so MB and almost 20,000 for multimedia. Under load doing a Sandra burn in the CPU temp hits 42C. Any suggestions would be most appreciated.
Sincerely,
theone
Thanking you in advance
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10. August 2006 @ 12:13 |
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hello there,
from what i can remember,the idea is to keep the htt bus at or below 1000,so if your fsb was 250 you'd want the htt bus multi at 4 so 4x250=1000.
i think the hgher your fsb is,the lower you would run the htt multi.
i hope this helps.
o and i'm glad to be a member of your forum.you have a wide range of topics.i will strive to help any member were i can.
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10. August 2006 @ 12:59 |
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10. August 2006 @ 14:41 |
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The second one, every time. 1GB of RAM is enough for most things.
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10. August 2006 @ 14:52 |
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i can get a free upgrade upto 2gb of ram
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10. August 2006 @ 15:23 |
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One more thing,Get the DFI board,I hate being the only one here with one!!
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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10. August 2006 @ 15:31 |
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BigDK,
That superPI pic looks like it's been altered.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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10. August 2006 @ 15:53 |
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theone,
what TI66ER said.
Just remember as you raise your HTT,your increasing the memory speed as well.So leave your memory at default timings,raise the HTT gradually until it won't boot into windows(or smoke starts coming out of your case....LOL).Lower your LDT multiplier as you increase the HTT bus to keep it around 1000.IE: 200HTTx5 =1000
250HTTx4 =1000.Once you can't get past post,loosen you memory timings and add .1volts.Try again.If it still wont boot lower your HTT speed by 5mhz, try again.You get the idea.Once your in windows run some benches to check stability.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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10. August 2006 @ 17:05 |
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crowy,
Here's where I stand right now not knowing what I am doing. Never did and AMDs past the Athlon XP! Here's the math!
Here's the MB
And here's a CPUz
Almost forgot the CPUz memory
Like I said I have no clue. Let me know what you think. I'm not looking for a big OC as the memory is junk (supplied by customer). Still it's not bad and the on-board video is the best and fastest I've ever seen. Multi-Media is just a hair shy of 20,000!
Thanking you in advance,
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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10. August 2006 @ 17:25 |
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Here you can see my memory(rated @ DDR500)sitting at DDR568.8 = 2x284.4
Here you can see the HTT(FSB) speed just under 2000mhz(1896mhz)
And the current stable speed (2844.18)
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