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2. November 2006 @ 06:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
where?



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who knows? every where i think

its been on the news and toms-hw site

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/2006/11/02/kentsfield_released_uk/

2 weeks before 4x4 ?

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I'll let you know if I spot one. I was one of the first to see the mid-range Core 2 Duos arrive. DDP: good point, although my X2 does all I want, AND MORE! :-)



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www.scan.co.uk/Products/Products.asp?CatID=11&Category=CPU&ThumbNails=Yes&FilterKeywords=&FilterMinPrice=&FilterMaxPrice=&FilterCategories=447&OrderBy=1

these em sam?

nope theyre laptop ones

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nope i will pass on it too my AMD Opteron 175 Demark is doing more than fine
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my AMD Turion64 ML30 is awesome (main machine - laptop running 64bit Mandriva Linux 2006) and my second most-used PC is my dvd/burning PC which is an Athlon 2800XP, still plenty of life in that one..



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All I see on there are duos...



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the memrons threw me.

they talking about them on the buisness part of bbc news early this morning(stock prices on the up as the new cpu comes out blah blah blah) and then that on toms, but nowhere else???
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It's a "coming soon" not an "out now" as I understand it With the dual cores. Merom is out though, as the T7200 Core 2 Duo for laptops.



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i thought it was coming in time for xmas, but the way they were on about it on tv and the way that page on toms reads, it sounds like its out.

who knows??
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The Core 2 Quadro is DAMN fast. But at what price? In my experiences more cores isn't always instantly better. Unless the program is optimized for multiple cores you aren't going to get a very big performance increase over a single or double core. Those were synthetic benchmarks or compression benches that are indeed optimized but the majority of programs aren't.

Dual cores are still fairly new and I think they will have a bigger market with consumers than quad cores. The raw power is great for a video machine or a benchmarking/development platform but they really have no place amongst your average consumer. Only big time performance nuts are going to waste their time with a quad.

As I see it my 3800 is still VERY fast and can run any program/game with ease. I only overclocked to get a better part for the price. Not because I wanted more raw speed.

As you can see, the only seriously big budget part in my entire machine is the PSU and that's because I don't want a fried system and have to buy new parts.

I really enjoy getting bang for the buck and I reflect that in every part in my computer. The PSU is really the only part I could have gone cheaper on and gotten similar quality but I needed the Liberty brand name for assurance.

Back to subject though. I just don't see an all consuming need to buy overpriced crazy fast parts when I'll never see a benefit in my performance. 90FPS in Half Life 2 with all max settings at 1600 x 1200 is just as good as 120FPS. I can even get a 55-65FPS average in FEAR at all max. It's perfectly playable and more expensive parts won't give me a better experience when I already have an excellent experience on my own.



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Yeah, but lord, Estuansis, your card isn't exactly low end. It's a mere 6 months behind mine in technology, and even in this industry, that's not a lot. You should be glad about your performance. Unfortunately my monitor dictates 1600x1200 or even 1920x1200 where available for best image quality, and in the most taxing games, that hurts. Dawn of war can sink down to 18fps mid-battle which is annoying, especially when FEAR scores higher! I'm going to install Oblivion soon, so I'll report back then!



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Well, the thing is I got it for $220 which is an awesome price for that card. It's all bang for buck :)

In Oblivion if you put all your detail/distance slider bars to 25% there is virtually no difference. You'll still see things normally . No pop-in or muddy textures at all.

Just set your building/town and sight distance sliders to 100%. Those are really the only things affected by the settings.(weird)

But that's only on my PC. I've heard different but it looks beautiful for me.



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yeah apparently there's like a makeitpretty patch or something to display the textures cleanly at high draw distance, don't know how that affects performance.



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I'm talking a stock install.

This is one of the few games where almost all the sliders have an impact on performance but none at all on graphics. It's weird but I find it looks the same with all at 25% or 100%.



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Hmm, I wonder how it'll appear on my system... As I say, when I install it I'll report my findings...



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Until then somebody put this thread back on track before we get yelled at :P



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2. November 2006 @ 14:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's been worse...



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sam,
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It's been worse...

LOL!!!




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I see you have the celeron d. is that 478 socket?
A friend of mine has a e-machine that the mobo has died. If you are anyone else here knows where to get a mobo for the celeron 478
ddr2100 I would appriciate it.

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Not familiar with the emachines,but this one may be ok(micro atx).
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=P4M80-M4&cat=MBB



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Just saw this @ the same site!!
!!!!!!!ROFL!!!!!!!!
Any guys new to building their own PC's,take note of things like this.
Don't be fooled by these cheap power supplies.They will cause you grief,time and money.Notice in the notes it states,"This power supply has no regulatory approvals".
That should sound alarm bells straight away.
They also have the 550 watt(cough,choke) for an extra $2!!What a bargain!!!!!!!!!!LOL!!!








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2. November 2006 @ 22:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ugh, nice fan heater, not much use in a PC though...



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baltekmi, mine is the 478 socket. what is the make & model# of the emachine & where is he located country/state/province wise??
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It is a e-machine.model t-2848. I found the site to get a replacement mobo but htey want 149.00 us. I was thinking deep six the case and mobo and find a good board to put everything back together again.
(google emachines and find mobo replacement for that model) I was going to put a clean copy of xp using her oem number instead of e-machine restore. Which wouldn't work anyway with the new mobo.
Then actually it would run better without all the crap that comes on a shelf or store bought computer. Itis 478 mobo, ddr2100, onboard vid and the same chip you have which i beliave is a 400 fsb. Correct me if I am wrong. Unit is in schoolcraft, Mi. (10 mile south of kalamazoo, Mi.

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