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What MB are you using by the way?
sorry, i guess i hid the mobo line within my other spiel in my last post.
Asus A8N32-SLI :) i happen to be running SLI right now with (2) 7900gtx :P at full x16 each~
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If you ever get the 4400 to 3.0GHz, I'd be interested in your settings and bench results. I just can't seem to get the 2.2 and 2.4GHz AMDs to go that high. It's more in the math than the voltages. Like I said, I'm no expert so I'm probably missing something. Let me know.
i know this question/comment was not directed at me, but i can tell you RIGHT NOW that on AIR cooling, 3.0ghz stable on a 4400+ x2 (don't matter whether it's socket 939 or AM2) IS NOT POSSIBLE. for a person's system to be stable enough to run benches, yes it could happen, but to run it @ 3.0ghz on AIR 24/7...no way i guarantee you that. on water/phase change, very likely, but AIR...definitely not...i don't care if you use the coveted Tuniq Tower or a high end Zalman, Artic Freezer, or a TT branded one...
as you mentioned, despite the voltages/settings, unless you have a high-end mobo to help you stabilize w/ something like the 8 phase power management as found on the higher end models, a person is only capping his/her potential even more by going lower end, understanding that one will only get as high in OC'in as their budget allows (ie. high end mobo, memory, good stepping of cpu = higher OC- if going with budget/value ram, decent mobo, regular cpu = the OC'in results will be lower...that is common sense...to get the truly high OC's and more importantly MAKE IT STABLE...it's gonna cost ya~ ) :)
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He said it's still on the A8N32. I don't know what he'd find much better for the job with a 939. I'm partial to the "32" boards for their power management.
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Looking at your numbers, you should have plenty of room to hit 3.0GHz with that processor. The HT is only at 900 and usually the safe range is 1700-2200 which means 850-1100 in the HT Link in CPU-Z. Probably the only thing you'll need to do is crank up the clock speed. That's why I mentioned the math on the midrange AM2 4400. With the multipliers, I can't seem to get the math to work out to get higher. Sure as I crank the HT over 2200 things start breaking down. First the computation integrity goes and then the actual system stability. You've done a bunch of these it seems and push them to the limit. I'll PM you for the benches of the 4400 on the A8N32 board. I'm interested in how high you got it stable. Another quick question. Does the OCZ time better on the AMD system than the XMS Corsair PC3200. I had some boot at C3 and couldn't get it down. Your 2.5, 3, 2, 5 looks good.
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LOL Looks like you answered my questions as I was writing them. That leaves only the question on the OCZ RAM.
I'll slow down on looking for those OCs if the math doesn't work (unless I decide to go to liquid or phase change). ;)
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22. December 2006 @ 12:52 |
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(ie. high end mobo, memory, good stepping of cpu = higher OC- if going with budget/value ram, decent mobo, regular cpu = the OC'in results will be lower...that is common sense...to get the truly high OC's and more importantly MAKE IT STABLE...it's gonna cost ya~ )
LOL Yer preachin to the choir.
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:) seems our posts crossed paths, then hitting refresh there it is! LOL
anyways, to be honest with you, i haven't used the 2gb kit of Corsair branded XM2 DDR pc-3200s on the AMD setup, i only have OCZ brand Platinums pc-3200 for DDR (i got a good deal on them at the time and they were "good enough" and comparable to the Corsairs) i have since abandoned the DDR market and have gone solely with DDR2; i have several kits of Corsair and G.Skill high-end but they're DDR2 (Dominator pc2-8888 and G.Skill pc2-8500 respectively) :)
so, unfortuanately, i can't tell ya from first-hand experience how to get the Corsair DDRs down further than CAS3 timings. loosening the timings will give you a higher RAM overclock, but if you run at default timings, to secure a CAS2 or even CAS2.5 (as in my case) it will be difficult to overclock the ram higher without loosening the timings :) it's a compromise of sorts..i'm sure it could be done w/ the Corsair 3500Pro's or higher, but i don't own a set of those either~ :)
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I am aware of the cooling. I saw Gigabyte selling a nice water cooling kit for <$60. I might take a look for my birthday in March lol.
But I think 2.8GHz is not out of the question on air. Just would have to be careful of the temps.
If I ever take it any higher I'll have to break my personal barriers and run some benchmarks. I haven't actually run any yet for this build. But if you look a ways back I have 3D Mark 03 scores posted for both this system and my X2 3800+ with the X850XT that is now in my Sempron 3100+ build.
Here, I found my fps and 3D Mark 03 just now
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But I've made my FEAR install and I am getting about 52-55FPS solid in 1600x1200 with no AA/AF. Nice all around :)
85-90FPS in FarCry at 1600x1200 no AA/AF.
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Thanks for the info. It goes along with what I was thinking. With the development of RAM and the increasing speeds, I wouldn't want to use older RAM unless I already have it, including the PC3200, with faster DDR available at similar pricing. I'll go with the fastest RAM a board will support and I can fit in the budget. I still think they should give us the PC parts for free. LOL
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22. December 2006 @ 13:25 |
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Have you run any of the Sandra benches (Arithmetic, Multi Media, and Memory), checked your computation integrity with Prime95, and give your system a torture test with OCCT? They tell more about stability than graphics results. Kivory gave use his Sandra Arithmetic and CPU-Z which tell OCers something about his performance. Graphics depend on both the CPU and GPU for total score. Which means a lesser processor with a better GPU can match a better CPU with a lesser GPU. That skews graphics results. The benches and tests I mentioned are common for OCers to compare results and give a good picture of OC performance.
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LOL
i knew i saw my name mentioned on a few occasions~ :)
anyways, as PacMan777 stated earlier, it's good to understand and fully understand what components give you exactly what kind of performance...
i have mentioned in the past IF BUILDING FROM SCRATCH, i would definitely recommend an Intel Core 2 duo system...i agree with the others in that IF YOU HAVE SPARE PARTS already on hand and are simply doing an "upgrade" of sorts without committing a lot of money (on a budget), then AMD is a very viable solution :)
anyways, i don't contribute much to this particular thread only because people tend to argue about performance between AMD and Intel by either going off benchmarks they see on various websites and can skew the comparisons based on their own agenda as they see fit (ie. only linking certain benchmarks that a particular processor/gpu/etc. perform exceptionally well in compared to other "standard" benchmarks vs. the competitor - AMD or Intel/ Nvidia or ATi that they happen to be a "fan" of) :)
as PacMan777 mentioned, i HAVE built on both platforms and enjoy my systems equally for what their worth...i personally use my AMD system as a daily grind machine and use my Intel for mostly testing purposes and OC'in potential :) btw..i've used 4 different motherboards now for the Core 2 duo platform, all of which are excellent for overclocking with my newest one being the eVGA 680i which i've managed to take a stock E6600 @ 2.4ghz to over 4ghz briefly on custom water cooling. i haven't managed to get it stable yet, so more tweaking will be involved come the New Year...
for those interested in my various benchmarks, PM me and i will link you to them privately.
@theone
i know that on the various websites that we are both a member of, you've been asking aabbccdd for the opty 185 benches, well, as you are aware, i too ordered one from TigerDirect around the same time...UPS managed to "misplace" my package somewhere along the way and i finally got it in yesterday, they blame the "delay" due to the holiday season and how busy things are...whatevers...
anyways, took me all of 10 min. to swap out my 4400+ x2 and drop in the opteron 185, i haven't really "pushed" it yet due to it being so new and i'm also waiting for the thermal compound to cure and set before i max this bad boy out! :) but in the meantime, here is the arithmetic on Sandra just so you can get an idea of what is possible (don't worry, for those that know me, i'm EXTREME when it comes to overclocking, i don't settle for what the AVG. enthusiast can achieve...i'm gonna go higher, i'm not satisfied with my temps right now until the thermal compound sets, once i'm happy...then i'm going right over 3.0ghz) :)
it's currently at 2.925ghz @ 21219 MIPS, so that gives you a ballpark figure using Sandra 2007 (naturally, it would be higher on Sandra 2005, but we all know how outdated that version is) :)
this should give you the confidence and settle your curiousity if it's something you might plan on purchasing in the future, i naturally sold my 4400+ x2 to a friend so all in all, i spent a little over $100 on this "upgrade" of mine on the AMD rig. :) this is still on the Asus A8N32-SLI mobo that was talked about earlier in this thread with 2gb OCZ Platinum pc-3200 memory, marginally overclocked to 225mhz at this point (will bump that up too at a later time)
Happy Holidays everyone, gonna go back to enjoying some quality time with the family...i bid everyone a safe and pleasant season.
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Again another misleading result. You show beating the conroe... no problem. What you should of noted was that the results was your oc'd 185 to the stock conroe. Maybe that is one of the reasons you do not like to post.
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anyways, i don't contribute much to this particular thread only because people tend to argue about performance between AMD and Intel by either going off benchmarks they see on various websites and can skew the comparisons based on their own agenda as they see fit (ie. only linking certain benchmarks that a particular processor/gpu/etc. perform
Kind of double standard would you not say? You just "skewed".
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The CPU-Z showed the overclock. So nothing was being hidden with the bench and I didn't see it as a Conroe comparison. At least it didn't look like it to me. We were talking about how far the AMDs would go. Kivory666 said the Conroes OCed better. He as much as said an OCed Conroe easily beats the OCed AMD. We talked about that over the past few pages. Nothing got skewed for me.
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Baltekmi
The CPU-Z showed the overclock. So nothing was being hidden with the bench and I didn't see it as a Conroe comparison. At least it didn't look like it to me. We were talking about how far the AMDs would go. Kivory666 said the Conroes OCed better. He as much as said an OCed Conroe easily beats the OCed AMD. We talked about that over the past few pages. Nothing got skewed for me.
not in the cpu-z it's in the sandra .
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nice to see ya around docTY. taken abreak from your thread i c ...lol
but its like you never left still getting harassment now matter what thread... but thats the price ya pay for being a top dog....dont let 'em get to ya. you are needed around here.....
as far as the intel vs amd. i dont know alot about either still new to this stuff.... from what i have seen and heard from other members that have both types. the new intels rock......hence why i got the ok from the bank(my wife) for my first build and it will be a intel. cant afford the 6600 but am looking at the 6400... any suggestions on a mobo for it. im only building one for burning disc and you every now and then online games....id like to keep the price for the mobo and cpu around 500. any help is appretated...
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nice to see ya around docTY. taken abreak from your thread i c ...lol
but its like you never left still getting harassment now matter what thread... but thats the price ya pay for being a top dog....dont let 'em get to ya. you are needed around here.....
as far as the intel vs amd. i dont know alot about either still new to this stuff.... from what i have seen and heard from other members that have both types. the new intels rock......hence why i got the ok from the bank(my wife) for my first build and it will be a intel. cant afford the 6600 but am looking at the 6400... any suggestions on a mobo for it. im only building one for burning disc and you every now and then online games....id like to keep the price for the mobo and cpu around 500. any help is appretated...
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go with the e-6300.. it has a whole lot of headroom for oc'ing if you can't swing the e-6600. and with the right mobo you can unlock the multiplier. You get a better bang for you buck with out all the heat...
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We know the bench databasse is made up of stock settings. We also know not to accept and OCed Sandra bench as an even comparison to the processors in the stock database. If he'd had AMD processors in the slots, he'd be just as skewed against them. I just read the top line. If you're going to compare OCed processors, you have to show the benches of both. I take Kivory666's word his Conroe out OCs the opty 185. I sometimes don't pay attention to what I've put in the comparisons when posting a screenshot, it's the numbers and it's a comparison over stock processors, but doesn't actually compare the processors on an even level. You OC your system and do a bench, no matter what you do, according to your reasoning, you'll skew something. In that case, no benches. LOL I gues to be fair we should include the high end AMD and Intel each time we do a bench if we intend to post it. That way if somebody sees the bench and doesn't read they'll see equal skewing. ;) But then they'd miss the point with the OCed processor anyway.
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I'm not DocTy, but while waiting for his response. I'd suggest you go to Asustek and look at the specs on their boards and then the eVGA board DocTy likes so much. That ones more for his OC experiment though. If you're not trying for a high OC, the Asus M2N is a good board. But then Gigabyte makes a good board too. My choice for a good workhorse with performance would be the M2N.
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I've not used one of the TForce boards yet, so I can't put them down. I don't see the big deal.
This is my third BioStar MB. I was so impressed with the first 2 GForce 6100 M9s that I bought the TForce for myself. If you use the Overclocking Engine on manual and up the CPU speed and leave everything else on Auto it works like a champ. In addition you can go back and switch an Auto off and adjust the settings in that part with everything else being set automaticly. The BIOS has more than enough to insure good overclocking. It took only a little while to determind what the max speed is for my 4000+. I can play with all the adjustments right from the same menu just by clicking on them. Makes it much easier for a beginer or someone with very little knowlege af how the AMDs do things. If it crashes, it only defaults the item or items that caused the crash so you just change those values and try again instead of the bios resetting back to default. Nice feature and it saves a lot of time instead of having to reset everything every time it crashes. It's absolutely the most user friendly bios I've ever seen to date! You really don't need the manual as it teaches you as you go along.
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Somebody always goes against whats popular. "Mine's better ..."
Popular has nothing to do with it, it was the way Asus treated me. First they tried to screw me out of $40 by claiming that the CPU socket was damaged. I provided pictures showing it being packed and showing the Ser # of the MB with an undamaged socket and they changed thier tune. Then they said that it must have been damaged in shipping. I don't see how as socket 775 socket caps fit tighter than a locked chastity belt! Then they lied to me about shipping it. I got an e-mail from them confirming that they had shipped it on Tue. When I finally was able to get a tracking number, I found that both the invoice and the shipping ticket weren't even made until 3 days later on Fri! I don't like being jerked around and I don't like being lied to. Then to get it back with the problem it was sent in for not being fixed! Time to take my business elsewhere for now!
Some folks really got on me because I cooked the MB. It was my fault I bought a cheap PS! I point out that all Asus had to say "sorry no Warranty, you cooked it" and I would have thrown it away and bought a new one! They took it for warranty and that's that!
Besides, someone has to test one of these other brands so it might as well be me! I can't say I am surprised at how good this MB works as discounting the idiots in the reviews, you know, the ones that badmouth the MB because they didn't plug in the HSF and the CPU burned up or crashes. My personal favorite is the guy that asked "if he could run it without the CPU cooler as the cooler hadn't come yet"! He only wanted to run it long enough to install all the software! ROFL!! This MB has turned out to be everything I expected and more! I'm glad to see BioStar stepping up thier efforts and I think this will become a very popular MB for socket 939. Same goes for the AM2 version if it works as well!
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Go to Asus and read up on the specs of the 939 boards, pay attention to the A8N and the A8N32. You'll see they have advanced for the performance market. They have all that Biostar has, probably more, especially the a8n32. I looked at both. There isn't a lot of difference, except some brand special offerings. The A8N uses a Award BIOS same as TForce. In fact you could probably read the asus manual to understand part of how the TForce BIOS works. The similar stuff, not the brand specific items. The power management of the a8n32 makes it a better choice in my book. Plus the full x16 of the PCI express slots for the SLI.
I've been lucky I guess. I've never had to return a Asus to Asus. If they make it past the RMA period, they usually last. If not I get an exchange from the vendor. Hate to see you cut yourself off from a good product over a support issue. If that was the case, I'd never buy another thing from Newegg or Zipzoomfly and they're 2 of the better vendors.
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I forgot. You make it sound like the BIOS of a AMD system is something really different. Not so. If you understand the Award BIOS in an Intel platform, you can in a AMD. The big difference is the HT multiplier and clock multiplier. The rest is just in deciding if you want to go manual or let some things run auto. Depends on how high you want to OC. You should read the article by lemonlime at short-media that I suggested to estuansis. Being a beginner with AMD you might take a while to understand some of it, but the difference is in doing the math. You'll know what I'm talking about if you read the article.
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Again another misleading result. You show beating the conroe... no problem. What you should of noted was that the results was your oc'd 185 to the stock conroe. Maybe that is one of the reasons you do not like to post.
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Kind of double standard would you not say? You just "skewed".
anyways, you just basically confirmed WHY i don't like sharing knowledge here about PCs...if you don't know how to interpret cpu-z and sandra benches or are not familiar with them, why do you even bother saying something about it? it's putting ONE and ONE together, you can see from my cpu-z reading what i currently have the opteron clocked at, i even went as far as stating that CLEARLY in my first post with the screenshots.
ANY overclocking enthusiast knows that Sandra has generic benches for the other cpu's you can choose from in the list, naturally, that is how they would perform STOCK...sandra doesn't have arithmetic for "oc'ed" cpus so it's not even a choice for me to choose let's say for example a comparison of a "4400+ x2 overclocked" or a "fx-60 overclocked" in the benchmark... :)
how I have "skewed" MY results is beyond me...how many times in the past have i stated that IF BUILDING FROM SCRATCH at this point, the Core 2 duo is the platform i would PERSONALLY recommend to someone? it has even been reiterated multiple times by PacMan777 quoting me...
whatever, i'm DONE with this thread...if you want to argue with me about numbers and overclocking, about benchmarks being "fair" at STOCK levels vs. that of Overclocked levels; go build BOTH an AMD dual-core system AND a Core 2 duo system as i have then come talk to me about performance of the two and how far each will overclock.
what do i need to prove to you? absolutely nothing...i simply posted up the screenshots NAMELY for theonejrs so he could see what kind of scores are possible with an overclocked opteron 185 that he had stated in the past he MIGHT be purchasing in the near future if his budget allows. he had asked for some benchmarks from aabbccdd who also has the same processor, but i just happened to get my testing done before he did...i posted them up so theonejrs could see the POTENTIAL and the MIPs he was interested in...
when did i EVER compare my opteron scores to a Conroe? you want me to put up my OVERCLOCKED Conroe E6600 scores too? just so your Intel fan-boyism can be satisfied? and see how a Core 2 duo will DEMOLISH even an overclocked AMD? f*** here u go!
any other tests you would like? damn..how bout a super-pi?
now i'll probably hear about me "skewing" these results as well...if you can't achieve similar OC'in results as i have, then it comes down to OVERCLOCKING experience, or lack thereof, if comparable parts are used...
i've built Core 2 duo systems that will obliterate 99% of the systems that have been posted here on AfterDawn (the only exception i can think of off the top of my head is BigDK's own water-cooled E6600 which is comparable to my own)
the war between Intel vs AMD obviously continues with fanboys on both sides adding fuel to the fire, it's not about "what i read on the web"..it's about PERSONAL FIRST-HAND experience, if you've never overclocked a Core 2 duo or an AMD dual-core, what then do you suppose you could POSSIBLY add to the discussion? other than your OWN opinions as to which you READ about is superior? but not having any ACTUAL experience to back that up?
i'm done....unsubscribed.
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p.s. cincyrob, yeah, don't matter where i go...still same crap...PM me, i'll walk you through part by part in your new build...congrats!
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Attitudes and more attitudes. Nobody is questioning the current superiority of Intel unless they've been misinformed or not kept up. Kivory666 in his short visit has proven he understands both AMD and Intel. All that hassel because somebody misread the intent of a screenshot and the thread loses a good contributor. Now I'm waiting for someone to jump me so I can leave after my short visit. You're lucky, I don't have much to add. LOL
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22. December 2006 @ 17:49 |
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sorry, wrong pic
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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22. December 2006 @ 18:07 |
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Here I did the sandra bechmarks. For all to see...*looks at Kivory666's benches and faints after having an extremely violent heart attack*
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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22. December 2006 @ 18:49 |
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That was a good bench shot and good for a mild OC. You're not likely to get into any trouble there and the performance is better than the 4800 which is 2 jumps up the scale. All that for just cranking up the numbers. Way to do it, you showed a base 4400 for comparison and showing the 4800 was a good touch. Now if you show the CPU-Z like Kivory666 did, we can get a better picture of your performance.
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22. December 2006 @ 19:32 |
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baltekmi you just won a week vacation. We're all for debate here but a person crosses the line when they become snide towards other contributors. This threads been going smoothly for some time now and I aim to keep it that way so keep it chill when you come back.
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