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28. December 2006 @ 09:45 |
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Hmm the hard disk LED is very bright on my case too, I was considering changing it somehow, but couldn't be bothered. Blu-tac suffices if I'm watching a film...
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28. December 2006 @ 11:49 |
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Estuansis,
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I have to applaud Dell on their cases too, my Dimension 3000 came with a moulded steel front bezel that is so strong I can hook my fingers in the bottom and lift the whole unit without so much as a bend, crack, or creak
Yeah, the older 3000s had metal! Mine, which was bought in 2005 was a pop off plastic. Still, it was pretty strong. it also came with a nice copper heat sink. For what it was and the $250 it cost me, it wasn't too bad. Upping the CPU from the 2.8 to a 3.0/800 and adding a couple of sticks of DDR400 and better video helped too! It was still slower than the Asus at stock speeds by a bunch!
Happy Holidays,
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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28. December 2006 @ 12:12 |
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I suppose it's like a workhorse truck compared to a sports car, they're solidly made and will last a long time, but don't give you anywhere near the performance... That's probably a really bad analogy, but I think you get the idea.
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28. December 2006 @ 12:21 |
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i got a pentium d 930 for teh christmas, good present??
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28. December 2006 @ 12:22 |
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28. December 2006 @ 13:26 |
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D930 are fairly fast and awesome with video. Have fun :)
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xomblei
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28. December 2006 @ 14:49 |
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oh man oh man oh man!!
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29. December 2006 @ 01:56 |
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Depends what you had before of course! Assuming you started with a single core P4, you'll be amazed at the difference.
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29. December 2006 @ 08:08 |
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yeah i had a p4 2.5 ghz... the difference is amazing, plus i just got sli nvidia 7600 gt OC's... which is just icing on the cake, i'm running all my games at the highest quality
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29. December 2006 @ 08:52 |
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What do you guys think about this
mobo: DFI Infinity UltraII-M2
Processor: AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual Core 4200+
Graphics: GeForce 7600GTS
1 GB of Memory
Thanks.
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29. December 2006 @ 11:02 |
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To xomblei: Good for you, max quality has to be seen to be believed... Although I have my suspicions that having one 7600GT would probably give a similar result
TCStr8: The 7600GTS seems to sit squarely in the middle between the 7600GT and the 7600GS performance wise. It's a pretty decent card that sits midrange in today's performance spectrum. It can play FEAR at 47fps at 1280x1024 using high quality, so it performs quite well. The 4200+ is also a very good CPU (having used one!) and, is better than the Pentium D series.
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29. December 2006 @ 14:38 |
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Anyone got any recommendations for a cheap($60-$75) socket 775 mobo? I just recently got my hands on a Retail Pentium 4 541 for $30 at the local shop.
Newegg preferrable, PCI-E or AGP, link please!
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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29. December 2006 @ 21:04 |
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Estuansis,
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Anyone got any recommendations for a cheap($60-$75) socket 775 mobo?
O.K. I'm assuming you have a Prescot 3.2/800. What memory do you want to use DDR400 or DDR2? If DDR2, what speed? You definately want to get an Intel chipset as via and SIS suck! Do you plan on any future for this machine such as upgrading it to say, a Conroe? IDE drives or Sata?
Give me a little info on your plans and I'll see what I can do. The choice id just too varied without this information!
If you were just building a backup I would normally suggest an Asus P5P800 SE but the price has balooned to around $400 as it's a great MB but production stopped several months ago. The only place I found one was from pricegrabber.com and it was $399 and that's almost 5 times what I paid for mine less than a year ago. It has 4 DDR400 memory slots, 4 PCI, 1 4x-8x AGP, 2 Sata and 2 IDE. Supports up to 4 GB of memory and is about as good as you can get for a P4 or a Pentium D without going DDR2.
Happy Holidays,
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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30. December 2006 @ 00:34 |
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30. December 2006 @ 03:35 |
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@theonejrs thnx dude...i appreciate
@PacMan777 u to man...thnx
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Now Ive got your attention please read my post above
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30. December 2006 @ 04:17 |
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I like the look of that one sammorris. The PCI Express just might make it a candidate for my old X800GTO. It's still a very strong runner placing between the 6800 and the 6800GT. I might even transform it into an X800XL if it likes to unlock.
theone, any type of memory would be fine, I would even go higher in price if the board seems worth it.
I said that newegg is preferrable but it isn't mandatory. Other sites are fine. Try as I might I can't seem to find a promising Socket 775 board anywhere. theone, with your more advanced knowledge of intel boards maybe you've seen something else that I could look up?
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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30. December 2006 @ 08:54 |
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Estuansis,
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theone, any type of memory would be fine, I would even go higher in price if the board seems worth it.
If that's the case, get you one of these.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128017
I know a number of people who have used this MB with great success. It's got everything except support for Quad-Core. The GA-965P-DS3 is one of the best boards for Intel from the P4 to the Conroe. Great overclocking features, 4 DDR2800 slots for up to 8GB. 1 16x PCIe, 3 1x PCIe, Great Lan and can handle 6 S-ata 3.0 drives. Down the road you can upgrade it to a Conroe and already have everything you need. Why muck around with something you can't do a serious upgrade with? At $118 it's a very good buy, and you would be set for a good while! I wish I had done that when I built my 940 as I already would have had a 6600!
Sell the X850GTO AGP as they are still very much in demand! I know I would like one for my P5P800 SE!
GTR35,
You are most welcome! Glad you got it!
Happy Holidays.
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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30. December 2006 @ 11:41 |
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If I upgrade my CPU/Mobo or build a second system in the next year/18 months, that board looks a promising foundation.
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30. December 2006 @ 12:06 |
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Sammorris,
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If I upgrade my CPU/Mobo or build a second system in the next year/18 months, that board looks a promising foundation.
I'm gonna hold out for this one!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128323
It's supports 8GB memory, 8 (count em) 3.0 S-ata, Firewire, 2 16x, 3 1x PCIe, 2 PCI, 6 Phase VR, a Great Lan and the price is slowly coming down. It also has passive cooling that works! And a whole raft of other features. Besides, it looks cool too!
It had it's teething problems, like so many other MBs for the Conroe and is still a little fussy about memory, but I want to give one a try. Put a 6600 in that baby and it should rock!
Happy Holidays,
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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30. December 2006 @ 12:09 |
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Given my situation as a student, a second PC seems a little unlikely at this point, so an extravagant board like that is probably out of the question. I'm going to see what happens to CPU prices, and if Conroes drop a lot more, I may get a 6600, but for the moment I'm ignoring CPUs and investigating the purchase of an R600 GPU. I'm of the opinion that AMD's next generation CPU will be worth waiting for.
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30. December 2006 @ 19:18 |
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theone, that last one seemed a bit "wonky". But I like this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131046
ASUS P5L-VM, 945G Chipset. Looks good. Maybe I should have checked higher prices to begin with! I'm gonna order this one methinks.
And if Conroe ever becomes a priority for me I'll be good.
My new Pentium 4 541 3.2GHz
ASUS P5L-VM 945G
2x512MB Corsair ValueSelect DDR2 667
My old Powercolor X800GTO 256MB
Samsung Combo Drive
120GB Seagate Barracuda SATA 3GB/s
Coolermaster Centurion 5
Thermaltake 430W PSU
Should I make the order?
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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30. December 2006 @ 19:25 |
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I'm of the opinion that AMD's next generation CPU will be worth waiting for.
lets hope being Intel is kicking AMDs ass at the moment
BUT i really like this Opteron 185 i OC(ed) it to 2.87GHZ and its actually running cooler than at stock. probably made the Zalman 9500 kick in and work harder overclocking it
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30. December 2006 @ 19:32 |
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The reason I say it looks wonky is because of the fanspeed problems. I don't want a fried CPU. But the ASUS P5L seems better at that. If you recommend the GA-965P-DS3 over the P5L-VM I'll trust your judgement.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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30. December 2006 @ 21:14 |
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Estuansis,
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theone, that last one seemed a bit "wonky". But I like this one:
Your choice isn't a very good one. The on-board video plays a little havoc with the memory and PCIe 16x slot due to chipset limitations. You usually can't completely shut off the on-board video as if a video card failed you would have a problem getting a screen to set up the on board, so your memory is always less than it posts! At $134, it's $60 cheaper than the DQ6! Same chipset, 2 less on the S-ata 3.0s at 6!
Hey, I was honest about the problems that Gigabyte had with the DQ6 but as long as you use the right voltage memory (1.8v), there should be no problems. Asus and even Intel had many of the same problems with booting up and reseting. Everybody did in the begining. You also have to take into account the "Idiot Factor" when reading motherboard reviews. There was one guy that supposedly had lots of experience that screwed the MB down without the brass standoffs, right flat against the case! Grounded everything! LOL!!! Wonder what he thought the standoffs were for?
I've only had 2 MBs DOA and one that went south in a few days, in my life. The 2 DOAs were both ECS and the problem was that they claimed Prescott support for it when in fact it didn't have it! And the other was a BioStar GForce 6100 M9 that had a cracked bios chip. I shipped it to Biostar on Monday and had the new one Friday morning! I didn't RMA it to Newegg as they wouldn't have had it back to me in time to make my delivery date to my customer.
If the price of the DQ6 is too much then buy the GA-965P-DS3, it's still one of the best for overclocking the Conroe, or any socket 775 CPU for that matter. Whatever you get, make sure it doesn't have on-board video as it won't OC very well!
Happy Holidays,
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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30. December 2006 @ 21:27 |
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Alright I'll go for the Gigabyte DS3 board. Thank you for the recommendation :) No Overclocking planned as of yet but maybe I'll take it to 3.6?
Either way I'll order the stuff tomorrow and give you an update when it arrives. I'm expecting around Wednesday.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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