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6. March 2007 @ 07:09 |
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oem r600
what does it look like?
note oem only, retail will not be this length (12.4")
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6. March 2007 @ 07:31 |
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It certainly looks like some sort of tool me thinks!
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6. March 2007 @ 07:36 |
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i think people might need that bahco to get a oem model into their case.
it seems that the retail version will be a more modest 9.6"
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6. March 2007 @ 07:52 |
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I think the card will come with both the saw to cut the case and the blower to clean up.
Total retail price for the lot £800 or £1200 for the top end cross-fire
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6. March 2007 @ 09:12 |
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roflmao
the retail one we will be able to buy isnt much bigger than a 88 so its more of a headline grabber with the length of the oem one(i think that they need the bigger cooler for low air flow cases, dell + alien)
@bigdk and sam
have you tried to see how much lower than 1.25v (at stock clocks)you can get your 4300 and it still be stable?
right now i have mine set at 1.0v and it seems stable, bios wasnt happy about it but i hit f1 and it booted first time, i only ask as i was looking around and i have read alot about vdroop on this mobo. now after checking what its set to in the bios and watching how it does whilst under full load and idle i was surprised.
if i set it to 1.25 in the bios it will then read (bios, cpuz and speedfan) as 1.3 but under full load (orthos) it will drop to 1.25 (as i set it). now i havent got a multi meter to test it onboard but i am a bit confused.
right now its set to 1.0 and its showing as 1.07 but under full load it drops to 1.0 now i was wondering if you think that the latest bios has started to overvolt the vcore to counter the vdroop under full load.
sam i would be interesred to see your findings as we have almost the same setup.
thanks guys.
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6. March 2007 @ 09:22 |
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That's interesting to know, I suppose that means you can OC even further before touching the voltages.
Do we have an idea when the X2900 is out? if it's much later than the beginning of may I'm going to look into an 8800.
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6. March 2007 @ 12:27 |
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Wait for ATi sam! Stay faithful because they haven't been so late to the punch as AMD :)
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6. March 2007 @ 12:35 |
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That's what I want to do, but if it means me waiting until christmas for it they can forget it. Good though the 8880s are, they're still not enough of an upgrade to justify the expense.
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6. March 2007 @ 18:29 |
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from the romurs i have read the x2900xtx is about 15/20% better than the 8800gtx in 3dmark06.
the xtx models are the only ones with gddr4 tho so how they will compare when the 89s come out with the same ram who knows.
they do seem to need alot of power too as the pics i have seen show both a pcie connection and a 8 pin one, what that will mean for the end user i dont know.
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6. March 2007 @ 18:57 |
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From the rumoured bandwidth specs, I'm expecting a bit more than 15-20%, especially after so long...
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7. March 2007 @ 05:37 |
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Thanks ireland!![afterdawn legend]
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7. March 2007 @ 08:46 |
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Its a good CPU, and will manage most apps really well.
For the money you can't go too wrong
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7. March 2007 @ 09:25 |
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3DMark03 Pro v3.6.0 Final
AMD Athlon64 FX55 , all in stock 1024×768 noAA noAF
X2800XTX ?????43606
8800GTX?????-41264
X2800XT ?????34623
8800GTS?????-32567
7950GX2 ?????29257
3DMark05 Pro v1.2.0 Final
AMD Athlon64 FX55 , all in stock 1024×768 noAA noAF
X2800XTX ????17387 ???700/2200
X2800XT ????-16135 ???625/1800
8800GTX?????15467 ???575/1800
8800GTS?????13773 ???500/1600
7950GX2?????12886 ???500/1200
i miss read it in my earlier post its 03 not 06.
edit
these are from another site where i think sombody has broke their non dissclosure agreement.
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7. March 2007 @ 09:47 |
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Where was this?
Besides, I thought it was agreed the high end model would be an X2900, not an X2800.
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7. March 2007 @ 10:49 |
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maybe ati are trying to keep something up sleave too.
that pic is apparently a quad gpu cross fire and a 4x4 set up.
mostly from links in the anandtech forums.
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7. March 2007 @ 11:18 |
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Not going to disclose which website it was?
I see that's a 4x4 system in there (and by that they really only mean 4+2) but I'm still dubious if the benchmark numbers.
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7. March 2007 @ 22:36 |
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7. March 2007 @ 23:07 |
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It will be about a year following Conroe that we "may" see a competitive effort from AMD. But will it be too little too late? AMD is stuck at 65nm and have been working on the Barcelona for release this summer.
Has everyone been paying attention to Intel's 45nm process using hafnium-based high-k dielectric and metal gates to decrease current leakage. The process is supposed to yield faster and more energy efficient chips. Penryn adds to C2D with additional cache memory and new SSE4 instructions. Samples are being demonstrated and word has it the new chips may ship sometime in the 2nd half of the year.
Looks like Intel may be a step ahead of AMD again. Lets hope those Barcelona chips are something extra instead of another evolutionary step. AMD needs to put an r in front of those steps to get back in the game.
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7. March 2007 @ 23:10 |
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I'd rather see some benchmarks with 3DMark 06, it seems strange that anyone would only use the older versions on a new card.
You'd normally expet to see some games stats as well.
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8. March 2007 @ 11:10 |
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Exactly, and the current 10-20% increase seems to exactly follow the expected trend of "a bit better than" with the 8800GTX. I'd expect at least one value to be a bit different considering the vastly higher memory bandwidth, if the figures are correct.
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8. March 2007 @ 12:55 |
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Originally posted by PacMan777:
It will be about a year following Conroe that we "may" see a competitive effort from AMD. But will it be too little too late? AMD is stuck at 65nm and have been working on the Barcelona for release this summer.
Has everyone been paying attention to Intel's 45nm process using hafnium-based high-k dielectric and metal gates to decrease current leakage. The process is supposed to yield faster and more energy efficient chips. Penryn adds to C2D with additional cache memory and new SSE4 instructions. Samples are being demonstrated and word has it the new chips may ship sometime in the 2nd half of the year.
Looks like Intel may be a step ahead of AMD again. Lets hope those Barcelona chips are something extra instead of another evolutionary step. AMD needs to put an r in front of those steps to get back in the game.
Interesting thread. A year ago my comment on Intel beating AMD would have had pages of comment. Now it's ignored in favor of discussing graphics. Old news I guess. LOL I think we need a thread on graphics cards, or the thread title could be changed to AMD-ATI vs nVidia GPUs and Intel CPUs.
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8. March 2007 @ 13:04 |
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So who's gonna be the big dog on the porch when nvidia releases their GDDR4 cards?
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8. March 2007 @ 13:08 |
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Intel with the best CPU? This thread may get confusing. LOL
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8. March 2007 @ 15:23 |
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That X2800XT seems to be the card for me. Then I can upgrade to Conroe and put the new one in that build and still keep my X2 to play Half-Life 2. If only having that FX55 in there for those scores is any clue at all I will be doing nice and tidy with an e6600 :)
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8. March 2007 @ 21:41 |
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Intel of course!
Originally posted by Mort81:
So who's gonna be the big dog on the porch when nvidia releases their GDDR4 cards?
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