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PacMan777
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30. March 2007 @ 14:20 |
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I keep a decent 500w PSU around for those "just in case" situations (currently a 550w Antec on the shelf). It's overkill for some systems and a bit short for a few, but it works well for most systems. When I think inexpensive I'm thinking Antec, Thermaltake and similar well ranked brands. Like you I don't like crummy PSUs. Currently I like the OCZ and Corsiar units real well.
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30. March 2007 @ 14:32 |
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I was tied between the Thermaltake Toughpower and the OCZ GameXstream, but I don't like the fact that most OCZ PSUs don't have variable speed fans. To cool the PSU enough when it's at full load means it can't be quiet, and I don't mind noise so much when playing games, I prefer a quiet PC when working. I wasn't convinced the OCZ would suit that purpose so I bought the Thermaltake in stead.
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30. March 2007 @ 16:04 |
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Not a bad choice. I don't think I'd get too upset with OCZ for the single speed fan. Apparently they're getting the job done and I've not heard of anyone waking the neighbors with the noise they make. What did you say the dB ratings were for the OCZ and Thermaltake you chose?
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31. March 2007 @ 04:35 |
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I don't know, I haven't seen any, I just went by the reviews. However, I probably would have done alright with the OCZ as my friend has an older OCZ (Powerstream 520) and it's very quiet, even though the fan speed is indeed solid. The fan in my Thermaltake is poor quality, despite being made by Yate Loon, a company well known for making good fans. The noise quality at high speed is fine, but at low speed it sounds exactly like there's a bit of paper stuck in the blades.
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31. March 2007 @ 10:14 |
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PackMan777,
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I know you like talking about what you've done and the things that went wrong which you eventually solve. It leads me to wonder, how many problems were from system flaws and how much did you cause, either from working on the system or choice of components.
I think it was more a case of buying cheap components more than anything. My Grandmother had a saying I rember as a child. "Poor people can't afford to but anything Cheap"! I've very much learned the hard way that she was right. I've also learned the difference between cheap and a good buy. I buy quality when it's on sale. Had I just done that to begin with my computer would have cost a lot less overall!
I've added a Buck/Boost transformer to my line for the computer and that alone has solved a number of voltage problems. Line stays around 110v now. No more mystery shut-downs or other wierd quirks. BTW, I also have a Cooler Master 500W PS, new and in the box, just in case. I'll be getting my APC UPS back from my sister and it should do fine as a line conditioner as well as provide power back-up in the event of a power failure.
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31. March 2007 @ 10:37 |
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My Grandmother had a saying I rember as a child. "Poor people can't afford to but anything Cheap"!
another one similiar to that one is "poor people pay twice" meaning they can't afford to buy top quality the 1st time around and have to replace the item when it fails or wears out.
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31. March 2007 @ 10:52 |
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And in many cases, twice is more. I see cheap power supplies being sold here for £25, when a Hiper can be as little as £40.
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31. March 2007 @ 11:11 |
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funny you should mention the hiper 580 psu. newegg has it for $69.99 with promo code. regularly $99.99.
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31. March 2007 @ 11:23 |
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I'm still using the Hiper 580 Type-R, it's a really nice CPU in both build quality and performance.
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31. March 2007 @ 11:28 |
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Originally posted by BigDK:
I'm still using the Hiper 580 Type-R, it's a really nice CPU in both build quality and performance.
me too and I agree. I considered buying another one for that price.
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31. March 2007 @ 13:08 |
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For lower load PCs, they're one of the best PSUs you can buy, quiet, reliable, relatively efficient, good looking and modular. It's just a shame they're noisy at high loads, but hey, I can live with that.
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31. March 2007 @ 20:05 |
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I really havent noticed any trouble with any of my PSU all of them (3 of them) are company stock 2 of which are micro ATx the other one a Full ATX sized one and ive never had trouble with any.
one is 7 years old the other 6 and the last one is 2.
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1. April 2007 @ 00:54 |
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Stock power supplies for manufactured PCs are usually decent items. They have to be good enough to get past the warranty period. If they're good enough to do that most will make the long haul. I've got some old P2s in storage I've not had the heart to throw away and the PSUs are still good. Many of the factory PSUs are low output and not anything an enthusiast would be wanting. Dell is putting more powerful units in some of their PCs, but a common sight is a PSU 300W or below.
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1. April 2007 @ 03:03 |
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I've got some old P2s in storage I've not had the heart to throw away
Yeah I know what you mean LOL!.
YOu just dont feel like doing it because a few year ago you did alot one way or the other to get it this is my main reason for not thowing my old consoles and Pc's away.
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1. April 2007 @ 05:26 |
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The 250W stock power supply that came in my old PC weighed an absolute tonne. Comparing it to the cheap-ass unit that replaced it, it's half the power, and yet 2 or possibly 3 times the weight.
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1. April 2007 @ 07:05 |
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Speaking of power supplies, I took a chance on a newer name brand XClio about a year ago, and the cooling fan stopped even though it was still powering the machine.
It happened roughly the same time I swapped in a new processor (maxing out my 939 board with Opteron 185 up from 175), and I really thought I recieved a bad one since temperatures shot up. I will install the new power supply (one of Sammorris favorites Hiper 580) tomorrow. Hopefully that will help my problems. If it doesnt, I'll be back trying to sort bigger problems...
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1. April 2007 @ 07:32 |
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For about the same price you could have had the Corsair 520 and for about $35 more you could have had the 620w version. All you need to do is check around a bit to see which has gotten the best reviews and check the Corsair site for the full specs. Not many power supplies compare. I mentioned the Corsair because it has modular cables. Also, I prefer the connectors over the radio type used on the Hiper.
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Well, they're hardly a specific favourite of mine, my main PC uses a Thermaltake PSU at the moment, with the regular modular connectors. They are pretty quiet at idle, but had I known how good the Corsair units were when I bought my PC< I probably would have got one of those and stuck with it.
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1. April 2007 @ 09:10 |
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PacMan777
do you have links to the psu which you speak of?
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1. April 2007 @ 09:19 |
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1. April 2007 @ 14:58 |
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I have a lot of respect for the Hiper 580W. It will power a very powerful system with an 8800GTX even though that's a bit of a high load for it. But it'll take the punishment and keep going for several years on that setup.
But as an overclocker with a need for a high power PSU to power my OC and a power-hungry video card I used the Enermax Liberty 620W. Super high quality, low noise, and a kickass warranty. It'll power even the next gen of video cards effortlessly. But then again I wouldn't SLi an 8xxx series card on it. I would, however SLi and Crossfire the GeForce 7 series and the Radeon X1000 series respectively.
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1. April 2007 @ 15:16 |
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How many PSUs come with 8-pin PCI express connectors these days?
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1. April 2007 @ 15:23 |
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ok thanks aabbccdd
well it looks like toss up between the Corsair psus and the Hiper psus
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1. April 2007 @ 15:28 |
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After a $20 rebate the 620 is only $124.90 (with free shipping) at ZipZoomFly.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDet...st=pricegrabber
Newegg's sale price is still high.
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The Corsair isn't the only PSU I like, but here is why it's in the running. Not many PSU brands have the features or gained such a good rep so fast. http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/HX_power_supply.html It's relatively quiet, powerful, and feature loaded, making it a favorite for custom builders. Plus the Corsairs come with a 5 year warranty (Enermax is 3 years). I just wish Corsair had a more powerful one. The OCZ is another favorite of mine. The RAM companies appear to know how to make a good PSU.
But if one person says white, there will usually be someone there to say black. We have our favorites and they're not always the same. That's what user preference and market competition is all about. I stated my favorites and the product and stats support my decision along with the PSUs delivering as advertised. There's other good brands. I just suggest a builder get a good one. Besides power, power stability is an issue and the architecture of the unit. That's back to product specs again. A company might sell me one unit, but I'd never buy more if it didn't deliver. The Corsair delivered and then some. The only flaw I find in Corsair's offerings is there are only the 520w and 620w units to choose from. But when they fill the need, that's what I get.
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1. April 2007 @ 19:30 |
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Definitely not putting down Corsair. They rule lol.
I'm waiting on a Liberty series Enermax to go to 750W or 800W. That's my next PSU purchase.
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