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Phillips DVDR recorded disc
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crowbar61
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26. May 2006 @ 11:28 |
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Hi,
I am looking for a solution to a strange problem,
I recorded a disc on my phillips dvdr985, from my video camera, and tried to make a few copies of this for some friends with my pc.
No luck at all. I have tried Nero 6, and clonedvd, both updated.
I have read that phillips discs are tough to copy, but still have not found a solution. Any suggestions?
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26. May 2006 @ 17:34 |
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OK so this recorder burns a DVD+RW disc. It also gives you the option to finalize the disc which is a requirement for any DVD to play in regular DVD players. Did you finalize the DVD? If not you should still be able to put it back in the recorder and do so.
Once you get your DVD finalized, put it in your computer and try and play it. You have to be able to at least watch the DVD with your PC before you can make copies or do anything else with the video on the DVD.
If you can't watch it or read what files are on it, then many times the problem lies with the reader rather than the disc itself. This is especially true if you are trying to read a burned DVD with a DVD writer (Your burner) rather than a DVD ROM. A DVD ROM is designed to read DVDs and actually is a lot more reliable than a burner.
Make sure you go over the instructions for your recorder. See if it has anything about playing the DVD on your computer.
You may want to try a different brand of DVD+RW as well. You should also have a couple of those around so you can erase any bad burns you may do with your PC DVD burning programs. Your recorder supports the "+" format so make sure you stick with that.
It sounds to me like the DVD your recorder made is out of DVD-Video compliance so both Nero or Clone are rejecting it. At this point getting the DVD to simply play on your computer is a good first step. Once that occurs we will have access to the video files on the DVD and can do a few things to correct them.
You said you tried both Nero and CloneDVD. I am wondering what program you tried opening the DVD with when you used Nero. NeroVision may be able to open the files on the DVD. Just a guess though. I don't know what files are or are not there.
I'll look over a few more Googled pages and see if I can find anything else.
Edit...
I found your post at CD Freaks so you did find issues with IFO files?
Edit...
I found the instruction book and it does have a section on getting the DVD to play in other players but nothing about playing in a computer. Apparently you can do this already, according to your other post at CD Freaks and can complete your movie by doing some authoring. I don't know what would be an easier method than that. That is what I was going to suggest if you could open the DVD. As far as a simple copy goes, I don't know if it will be possible. It almost looks like Phillips has gone out of their way to prevent that.
I would try the steps listed on page 62 of the manual
http://seiaarons.com/Philips%20DVDR985.pdf
and attempt CloneDVD2 again.
I did look over the CloneDVD history and don't see where they ever addressed this specific issue. I do see that early versions of Clone were fixed for some Panisonic recorder problems though.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 26. May 2006 @ 18:11
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crowbar61
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27. May 2006 @ 08:22 |
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Hey thanks for the response,
let me try to give some more background...
I can play the disc in my computer, and in my el cheapo dvd player in my other room. The disc seems to play fine in most players, its just that I cant make copies of it. This recording is in a +R disc, I have not tried any -R discs, I read that the + is better. The disc was finalized, I tried to use it not finalized and the computer would not even read it at all.
I have read that the problem is the ifo files being non-compliant.
Someone suggested that I try dvd decriptor, and I will. I had to look around a bit to find that program, but I found it and will install it on my burning computer. I agree that phillips is making this harder. I'll post my progress, and hopefull it will make it easier for others to copy their discs.
I checked out your website, and will try to read and absorb it all. Very cool video clip you have there, I really liked the beginning of it!
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27. May 2006 @ 09:04 |
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I don't know if Decrypter will work for you, at this point I doubt it.
Try and open the DVD on your computer. You should be able to open it with Explorer and see the list of files on it. That would really help us to figure out what you can and can't do with them.
Generally if there are are .vob files we can take those and use a program of some sort to get them combined with .ifo and .bup files to get everything compliant. Even if you had some other format we could sort that out as well. Once you have access with your PC to the files on the DVD they can be copied.
So, if you could, give us a list of the files.
A compliant list looks similar to this:
Video files are contained inside a VIDEO_TS folder:
Here are the files for this particular movie within:
Yours will probably not be as long.
BTW,Thanks for visiting my website. You can find Decrypter there as well as a bunch of other programs.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 27. May 2006 @ 09:08
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crowbar61
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27. May 2006 @ 16:19 |
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You are correct, Decrypter did not work. Wish I read your post before I tried it (tried 2 different discs actually, just in case), but that's ok.
I can see the files with explorer, it is very similar to your captures, there is a video_ts folder with bup, ifo, and VOB files in it. There is also a video_rm folder some dat, ifo, and bup files.
While using explorer to copy these discs, I noticed that one of the VOB files refuses to copy. strange, both of the entire discs play in both of my computers. I noticed this kind of a problem when I was pulling the individual titles off of another disc when I used them to author a dvd with Nero. At that time I found which title was "bad" and re-recorded it (all on a +RW) and just did'nt pull the "bad" one off.
I have read in another place to try a program called IFOEdit, do you think this would work? I just downloaded IFOEdit, so I guess I will try it anyways, but may run into problems because I can't copy the files onto my hard drive. Wow, its a mess just to copy 1 disc, but the phillips is still a cool toy.
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29. May 2006 @ 10:14 |
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One last try for Decrypter.... Try copying the disc directly using the ISO read mode. This should make an exact image of the disc, including the VIDEO_RM and the VIDEO_TS folders. If that works, use Decrypter in the ISO write mode to make the copy.
With IFOEdit, try opening the VIDEO_TS.IFO and then click the Disc Image button at the bottom.
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crowbar61
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29. May 2006 @ 20:08 |
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Ok, when i hit the disc image button it tells me:
corrected sector addresses in table[vmgi_mat]
last sector of vmg[old 7685] [new 731] (video_ts.vob)
start sector of vmgm_vobs[old 1024] [new 6] (video_tx.vob)
I click ok, and get a table of corrected secor addresses (there is alot of them) i get a few more similar messages, and finally it asks me for a place to create the iso.
I zips along with a creating image window, until it hits %40, then it stalls for a while, jumps to %50 and stalls for a while, then jumps to %60 and stalls, thats where it is stuck for quite a while. I think I will just leave it and get some sleep and check it in the morning. seems like this won't work either, but I will know soon.
Thanks for the help so far.
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