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Do Most of the ps2 games work with swap magic 3.2
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4. June 2006 @ 11:52 |
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if there are people here with the older swap magic version w/ slide card do most of teh new games work with it.
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4. June 2006 @ 12:35 |
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Not all, but most of those that don't you can get patches/fixes for them
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Mavrix
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4. June 2006 @ 12:42 |
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not sure, one thing you can do is download a newer version and burn it.. you can't use it by itself though, you'd have to put in your original swap magic, then swap with the newer version, then swap with the game. ^^ what I'm doing with swap magic coder..
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4. June 2006 @ 13:26 |
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^thank u man i never though of that
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5. June 2006 @ 04:18 |
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that is way too much swapping, just buy the darn thing.
swapping once was too much for me let alone swapping twice.
and to answer the question i would say 98% of the games out there will work if you do what is needed. Like rebuilding or patching those that need it, and ripping DVD9 down to a DVD5
other than that i never had a game that when burned correctly did not work with my Swap Magic 3.0 when i used it.
Now with the mod chip everything works and no extra steps are needed.
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chakal
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5. June 2006 @ 05:24 |
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steimy is right!! You can make that any game work perfectly with swap magic... You just have to rebuild it!!! You dont have to swap it 3 or 4 times!! LOL =)
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Weasrock
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5. June 2006 @ 10:07 |
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Why don't most people have modchips? it seems like everyone has swap magic. I mean its not that much more expensive and it saves a lot of aggravation..most of the time
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5. June 2006 @ 10:15 |
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i agree 100% Weasrock
a good one like DMS4 Pro can do so many more things so much easier than Swap Magic. No rebuilding, no patching, no swapping, can play DVD9 back ups so no shrinking games, no problems uaing cheat discs,
no screen cut off with games from other regions thanks to the Y-Position fix and force modes, no having to buy a new set of discs just to get the upgrades they release (thanks to free flash upgrades for better chips), no worry about scratched discs that need replacing. Full large HDD support so you could pretty much eliminate using discs all together once you have the game loaded, built i HD loader so no need to buy that either, built in cheat device so you don't have to buy a cheat disc if you don't already own one.
and so on, and so on.
I understand they are more but the benefits far outweigh the cost.
I would spend $265 on a premodded system over the $150 (plus swap magic, plus fliptop plus shipping) for a stock system any day.
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Weasrock
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5. June 2006 @ 10:33 |
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Steimy, is there a real big difference between DMS4 pro SE vs DMS4 pro chips? I'm thinking of getting another system but they are out of the SE's
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chakal
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5. June 2006 @ 12:43 |
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steimy, what about online games??? There are games that dont support chipped ps2... Am I wrong?
And what about guaranty?
I think that the chip is best then swap magic... but swap magic has advantages too!!
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5. June 2006 @ 15:35 |
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the DMS4 Pro and Pro SE run on the same firmware which means they will do exactly the same thing.
I was only told that there is one game that detects the chip and that is Socom3. But i would see if someone who has one and plays online with it can answer that. Swap Magic, other than the online thing, has no advantages over a chip. A chip is 100 times better in pretty much every way. DMS4 Pro doesn't have it yet but i am sure it is coming, but the Cystal Chip V1.1 has hacked firmware available that will allow the chip to auto patch the game for online play so there is no need to manually patch the back up. But i only play online with my Xbox so i never worried about it much.
not sure what kind of gaurantee your looking for.
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chakal
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6. June 2006 @ 01:40 |
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I'm talking about PS2 guaranty! You have to open the PS2 to install the chip, so, you loose the guaranty! (if it was a new PS2) Some people dont like the idea of someone openning their new PS2 to install the chip...
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6. June 2006 @ 01:46 |
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Quote:
I'm talking about PS2 guaranty!
I think you meant warranty :)
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6. June 2006 @ 03:43 |
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yes, once you install a chip or open the PS2 for anything your warranty is gone. That's the price you pay for modding.
But if you have an older version your warranty is probably run out anyway so what's the big deal.
As far as i remember they only came with a 90 day warranty anyway.
Some came with 1 year if you had the 70000 series.
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chakal
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6. June 2006 @ 05:34 |
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I'm just trying to understand why so much people prefer swap magic!
I'm not saying that swap is better then a chip... Everyone knows that it isn't!!
I am from Portugal, and one reason that made so much people buy swap it was because they didn't have anyone trusty to install the chip!... That's why they had to choose swap magic!! (and that's why my english it isn't very good... "warranty") =)
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chakal
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6. June 2006 @ 05:43 |
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I'm talking mostly about people that had buy a new PS2 and don't know what is the best for them, swap or a chip... if the chip is much better than the swap magic, why so much peolpe buy swap???
that's what we are trying to understand... right?
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6. June 2006 @ 13:52 |
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Overall, I think a chip is better than swap magic. But you are right, swap magic does have the advantage of not voiding your warranty, plus some people don't like the idea of soldering things onto their PS2 (like a friend of mine who refused to get his PS2 chipped and went with the more troublesome swap magic).
When it comes down to it, it's a bit of personal preference to me, I had swap magic before and it was quite troublesome for me (even with a fliptop), so I eventually paid that extra and got a chip, but if you don't mind having to swap discs to load games, swap magic would do fine for you :)
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Mavrix
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7. June 2006 @ 08:05 |
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honestly it's not troublesome to me at all. Since I have slim ps2, I have the magic keys in place, so I didn't have to use flip lid or slide cards.. an extra.. 10 seconds top to play a game, even when I swap three times.. (SM 3.6 to SM: coder to game) removing that by using a chip doesn't make it all that extra better. O.O
And when I mentioned swapping multiple times with newer version of swap magic, if your using an extremely older version with brand new games, doesn't matter what ya load it with or rebuild it ain't gonna work, they starting to get smart with some of these things, why swap magic updates. ^^
That may be the one actual perk a chip may have over SM, but it's not all that signifigant right now, however if they increase the way protection is made against swap discs that isn't effected to chips, the tides will turn widely... I just don't think chips and SM are that far apart right now, especially considering warrenty. (as someone who buys and sells ps2's anyway, (do custom skin mods) even the older models usually come with a warrenty from the store, all the used ones I get are 1 year warrenty, but they stick an annoyin void sticker on the screwholes. ^^
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7. June 2006 @ 09:29 |
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People use Swap Magic for one of two reasons as far as i can tell
1. If you have a V1-V12 then you will not void the warranty
not sure if they have made a set of keys yet for the V13 and up that will install without voiding it.
2. is is a cheap way to mod your system.
Other than that i can see no reason for wanting it.
The mod chip (a good one) has so many advantages over Swap Magic
that i will not even start to list them all.
I started out with Swap Magic for about the first 6 months, back when Swap Magic 2.0 came out. It works ok but swapping is a pain, rebuiling is a pain, ripping DVD9 down to DVD5 is a pain, screen cut off with games from other regions is a pain.
So i bought a V12 with DMS4 Pro modchip and have never used the V7 with fliptop and Swap Magic since.
And no malice towards Mavrix, but Swap Magic and a chip are worlds apart when you know all the things a good chip can do.
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Mavrix
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7. June 2006 @ 18:01 |
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ok the screen cut off with regional games I'll give ya.. But if your having that effect, you prolly arn't within legal bounds to even have it anyway. ^^
Rebuilding.. there's tools out now that do it all in just two or three clicks, I still see people doing it manually and try to point out to them...
dvd9 to dvd5 I'll give ya, that really is a pain, I was under the impression even chips had problems with backups of these tho? ah well...
and granted, I have a v14. The original magic keys worked fine when I got my new system... again I see all these posts about problems with that metal piece, people saying open it up and tape it down, or try to de-form that metal protection piece by the hinge.. I got it in there in just a couple hours of trial and error, just pushing that metal hinge to the side with a screwdriver and then bonded the bastard key down when I made sure I had the key in the right spot. ^^
I still don't think chips are leaps and bounds ahead, not yet anyway. Will be interesting though to see what measures the PS3 takes however. If taking 10 seconds to swap a disc is a pain, then your just damn lazy, IMHO. :P j/k... I may get that view because my PS2 is within a foot of me at the PC here, with the TV monitor right beside it, don't have to walk across the room I suppose..
(but again on that regional part... that's the one big area I will give to chips.. I've just never ran across a title that if it was in PAL, I couldn't find an NTSC anywhere, but granted I'm sure there's lots out there that arn't available cross-region)
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chakal
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8. June 2006 @ 03:38 |
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I agree with Mavrix!!
I think that the only reason that can make swapping a pain is if you have the old PS2 version, and you have to use the slide card (or something like that) to swap games... because if you have the PS2-Slim, like me, with the magic keys I'm sure that swapping it isn't a pain at all!!
About "screen cut off with games from other regions", I am from Portugal, it is a PAL zone, and I never had any problem like that... Do you think that that problem only happens with PAL games in a NTSC PS2, and not in NTSC games in a PAL PS2?? Because I really don't know what you two are talking about...
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DamonDash
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8. June 2006 @ 04:20 |
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Swap magic is trash i use the HD-Loader no problems.I put to use that worthless HD Sony sold everyone.
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chakal
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8. June 2006 @ 05:04 |
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DamonDash, I have both, Swap and HD-Loader! Because a friend installed a chip in his PS2 and gave me his HD-Loader...
I can choose one of the two, and I usually use Swap Magic!! There aren't anything I can do with HD-Loader that I cant do with Swap! I think that the only advantage of HD-Loader, is that it can load games from a Hard-Drive... and I dont use one...
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DamonDash
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8. June 2006 @ 07:22 |
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I have both also but i dont see why some of these guys go thur all the stuff with Swap magic when you can download the games on your HD.Also the games load faster on the HD.
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