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hodab
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19. June 2006 @ 15:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi
I want to build a super fast computer for my personal use which has 3, 4 or more processors (CPU s). How can I do that? How expensive will it be? Thank you for any help.

P4 R 2.8 GH, two processors
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19. June 2006 @ 15:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There are some MOBOs that support 2 CPUs, I am not aware of any that will support more than that.
To build a fast PC you need a good CPU & lots of quality RAM. You are only limited by your budget. If you go down the road of buying cheap parts, you will only end up with a crap PC. If you are REALLY serious about building a fast PC let us know. We can spend all your money for you, very easily.
In the UK, if you want a really fast PC you can spend over £550 on your CPU, good RAM can cost £100 per gig stick (most MOBOs support 4 gig, so there is another £400!) A good MOBO can cost £120, PSU could cost £80-120, Graphics cards, well, the sky is the limit, you can spend over £500 quite easily on one card, MOBOs now can support 2 cards (SLi - scalable link interface), so there is another £1000.
All this is before you have your drives (a good HD can cost over £200), operating system cables etc. So there you are, do you still want to build the fastest possible? If you do it will cost you.
What EXACTLY do you wish to use it for?

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hodab
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Thx for your reply. I want the super fast pc for calculating chess engine moves. I am a chess fan and love computer chess, and take part in the computer chess tournaments. I want to win, and to win need a super fast pc. I will spend the money, no problem. I live in Sweden, Stockholm. Just please give me two or more alternatives for every part, if possible. I appreciate your help.

P4 R 2.8 GH, two processors
512 Mb RAM
160 GB HDD
256 MB ATI
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19. June 2006 @ 17:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you want a super fast computer just for computing chess moves then multiple CPU's won't do much good. They are good for multitasking. You would be better off getting a AMD FX-63

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sezerb, is that your business sites in your sig?
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19. June 2006 @ 19:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lol ddp

what are you using the pc for is it to play games,burn dvd's,a media center,...etc.I just ask because sometimes different hardware is for different stuff.

SLI is only worth it if your a gamer and from my expeience only if your a hardcore gamer a single gpu should do the trick go with nvidia 7800 dont get the 7900 because it's over priced stay behind a release.

For calculating chess engine moves You wont need a cutting edge pc.Just some software.No need to spend that kinda money on something that takes so little ram.You may just need more ram.

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What is the name of the chess software that you will be running?

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hodab ,heres a couple threads to read and asked questions .this is where you need to be

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/344865

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/84660

and my system per my sig would be a great place to start

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hodab
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Thank you all for replying. Well, the computer chess is going forward very surprisingly and it is develepoing every single day. my pc which is a p4 2800, 768 RAM, loses 70 percent of times to a computer with an athlon 64 4400+ dual core, draws 20 percent of time and can win just 10 or less percent. Both computers use the same chess engine, like Rybka which is the strongest now in the market. So, the hardware plays a very important role. The strongest chess playing hardware in the world is called Hydra, based in Dubai. It uses 64 processors, and can calculate more than 200 million moves in one single second, while my computer can calculate 800 thousand moves in a second. This means that my computer can go less deeper into moves in given time than Hydra, or athlon 64 4400+.
The above was just a very short description of computer chess and hardware issue.
Now, I don't want to build a computer like Hydra, because I am not a millionaire! But pc much more powerful and faster than my present pc anyhow.

There are many chess engine out there in the market, for example: Rybka, Shredder, Hiarcs, Fritz, Fruit, Gandalf. These are the strongest. ( and not to forget Zappa).
I am waiting for your replies, thank you.

P4 R 2.8 GH, two processors
512 Mb RAM
160 GB HDD
256 MB ATI

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6. July 2006 @ 12:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Id be happy to help but please could you answer the following questions:

How much money are you willing to spend. (A lot is not exact enough)
Do you need a monitor,keyboard,mouse??

Also whats the fun in computer chess? Lol doesnt it ruin the game?

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hodab
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6. July 2006 @ 15:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I can invest between 2000 to 4000 dollars. No monitors or..., just the system (the computer).
Oh no, computer chess doesn't ruin the game. computer chess has been revolutionary in the classic chess world. It has enhanced the game, helped the grandmasters to analyse better, deeper and more precisely, trained chess to more humans than masters and human trainers ever in the chess history have done. Chess with computer is no longer just board and some pawns and pieces and some paper notes, but it is fun now to everybody. And there is a lot more about computer chess...

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if you really want 4 processors, you could use a server board that takes 2 dual core processors. ASUS AMD board(socket 940) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131059 $225.
with 2 Opteron 285 Italy core processors http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103004 $1080 each

Uses registered 184 pin DDR memory http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146576 $425 per 2 gig stick, mobo accepts 6 sticks

dual raptor 150's in RAID 0 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822136012 $259 each.
Helluva lot more money than I'd want to spend, but to each his own (and I'm a cheap bastard, LOL)

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If you really want to do some number crunching you could try a quad cpu opteron board.

They have something like 4 dimm slots per CPU and some are dual-core ready too!!


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8. July 2006 @ 09:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thank you DMW, where can I get that in europe? do you have a link or a more specified name?

P4 R 2.8 GH, two processors
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160 GB HDD
256 MB ATI
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You could try something like this bad boy http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8qw.html

I'm sure others make them too, but I have only ever used tyan in a multi-processor machine.

Heres a list of there European Distributers/resellers/dealers
http://www.tyan.com/products/html/europe.html

Will give you an idea.

Have fun builing it if you buy one, and let us know how it flys :-D




hodab
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9. July 2006 @ 15:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Isn't there any multiprocessor motherboard out there which can house AMD Athlon instead of Opteron processors?

P4 R 2.8 GH, two processors
512 Mb RAM
160 GB HDD
256 MB ATI
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DMW
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10. July 2006 @ 05:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Tyan did a model called a Tyan Tiger. It's a few years old now and could only support (I think) upto Xp2400+ CPUs, they also had to be the MP versions which were usually more expensive, although some could be unlocked and seen as MP chips. It was a socket A motherboard!

I honestly don't know if there are any newer models that support current Athlon chips as I have only seen opteron boards.




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