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I got bit! Got a email from ISP about a torrent!
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12. July 2006 @ 12:30 |
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12. July 2006 @ 13:42 |
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That links about peer-to-peer.
I'm talking about bittorrent, specifically.
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12. July 2006 @ 16:59 |
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Dunno, but last time I checked, torrents are p2p...and with torrents representing 50%+ of all internet traffic worldwide, I'd assume they're part of the crackdown.
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12. July 2006 @ 17:31 |
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Show me some evidence, Tom. Show me an average bittorrent user getting sued by anyone, the RIAA or MPAA.
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28. July 2006 @ 06:10 |
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I received a similar letter from my ISP stating "they were notified that (by a big production companies anti piracy dept) my IP address was sharing files? It seemed to be more of a warning letter, but needless to say I have stopped everything and want soooooooo bad to get back into it. I didnt call them I just stipped everything i was doing.
If any can help or give me some guidance it would be greatly appreciated>>>>>>>>>>>>>
So there is not way to block your IP all together.
melee thank you for your direction. very help full. thanx
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28. July 2006 @ 10:49 |
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just wondereing, do all internet providers take this kind of actioin?
i am with Tiscali they are not going to be coming around knocking on my door are they?
i sometimes use a private tracker, but mostly public.
i know i am safe with private trackers as they try and safe gaurd there users, i say this after reading their disclaimers.
there is a part where it says you may not do anything blah blah to the families/individuals who use this site, is this the same for public trackers?
"He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a fool forever." - Chinese Proverb BluRay.
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28. July 2006 @ 11:22 |
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I got this letter too, only it was for an episode of "My Name Is Earl". Anyways, my question is basically how can you tell which trackers are secure and what ones aren't. I use Azureus and I'm somewhat new to it. (Used to use WinMX back in the day but they started charging so I just stopped downloading stuff until a few weeks ago so I am still learning.)
Any knowledge you could pass on to me would be great, thanks!
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2. August 2006 @ 00:44 |
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HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
I think I just dropped my spleen.
Nobody, and I mean NOBODY listen to what celtic just said.
First off, torrent encryption doesn't do anything but make it so your ISP can't figure out WHAT is INSIDE the packets you are sending. You are STILL connected to a swarm for a SPECIFIC file, you are STILL connectable, and you are STILL sending AND receiving the file.
The MPAA/RIAA don't care if you only transport 1KB of 1 file, you can still potentially be sued. Look at the dead lady who got sued, or the family without the computer. While many software companies don't have the resources to pay watchdogs to track down pirates of their software, several do. Any US movie release is bound to be watched, and you're bound to be caught one day. You may or may not be sued, but why not take 10 seconds to make it hard for them?
Also, considering that it is now considered a federal wire crime to pirate intellectual software, with a massive prison sentence and a fine of $100,000 per instance (uploaded to 50 people, $5m!), I think I'll NOT listen to anything celtic just said, and PRAY THAT NO NEWBIES ACTUALLY THINK HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
Oh, and just a quick edit...it's not ISP's that catch you. Copyright protectors dl the torrent and run bots that record every IP connected to the swarm, whether or not they are currently connected to it. They then FORCE a connection to your IP to see if they get any data BACK from you. As soon as you send them 1 packet of whatever file, you're busted, because you're retransmitting pirated material. They then contact your ISP and threaten to sue them as well as you if your ISP doesn't do something about you.
ROFL ROFL ROFL
dude you dont have a clue rly do you ? Go learn about torrents , go learn about encryption dude go learn full stop
Paranoid fool roflroflrofl
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2. August 2006 @ 01:39 |
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celtic, bite your tongue, TomMelee knows a great deal about P2P, and has helped a large amount of people out. Do not disrespect him like that.
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2. August 2006 @ 03:40 |
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Flames :S
I'm outta here..........
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2. August 2006 @ 04:02 |
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use peer gaurdian from now on ok!.
"He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a fool forever." - Chinese Proverb BluRay.
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2. August 2006 @ 06:22 |
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The Big Four use their PR machines to imply thousands of "thieves" have been successfully prosecuted for the "crime" of sharing music, though no such crime exists and not one of the 19,000 RIAA victims has so far actually appeared before a court or a jury, or been found guilty of anything, let alone copyright infringement.
there have been a lot that have actually defaulted by not replying to their respected court appointments. but in reply to Celtic ..... i think you need to learn a lot before spouting off at the mouth.
I personally have not heard or read about any court dates due to sharing from bit torrent clients. The letters sent out to isp's are sent out because they have deep pockets. In order for their to be proof that someone was sharing something through bit clients, the entire torrent would have to be extracted from each computer. I believe thats why they send out the letters to the ISPs in the first place, because the ISP does not want to go to court for NOT doing something to stop it. If proving anything was as easy as "they" say it is, then we would be getting more letters and ACTUAL court dates instead of run around letters to ISPs because they have hundreds of millions of dollars possibly at stake.
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2. August 2006 @ 07:37 |
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you know what!!!
the best way to stay safe is to not use p2p software at all.
"He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a fool forever." - Chinese Proverb BluRay.
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2. August 2006 @ 08:25 |
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KNOCK IT OFF!!!!
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2. August 2006 @ 19:52 |
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Actually, for the person who wanted me to link to the MPAA suing someone for torrent downloads...I ran across an article the other day about a millionaire who got pegged by the MPAA and refused the settlement offer, so he's taking them to court.
I don't have the link, but I'm sure if you "dugg" it or googled it, you could find it. They can and do sue.
And celtic, bud, I hope I'm around to see you gasping for breath the day that the oxygen runs out in that tiny little bubble you call reality. :)
And svt, thanks for havin my back bro. :)
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2. August 2006 @ 20:12 |
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@TomMelee
The Millionare that got sued is on Afterdawns News section....So you don't have to go through the trouble of finding it. :D
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2. August 2006 @ 20:26 |
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no problem what so ever man, im sick of people disrespecting the great members of aD. Seems that all peeps are doing lately are putting others down, and I have a hard time bitting my tongue in that situation.
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2. August 2006 @ 21:50 |
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Im with Tom.
If someone ever is taken into court on a letter like this. Look how easily you could get through this. Like Tom said, you could say your wireless network wasn't secured and bam anyone in your neighborhood could have done "the crime". Or just prove that you have OWN copy of the downloaded material.
I was also wondering on the topic of the letter regarding the "my name is earl" episode. Could they really take him/her to court? Its not any different than recording it to a DVR/VHS Tape/or through a TV Tuner and then burning/watching it.
"Some people have no damn sense." - Nephilim, March 27 2007 @ 18:08 |
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2. August 2006 @ 22:44 |
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Ditch the offending flick, dump the broken to many pieces CD in a trash can that isn't yours. Toss it out maybe with a fast food burger someplace...maybe melt the pup with a cigarette lighter. They can't say you have what you don't, and clean your system.
Play dumb, there is a lot of mislabled files out there, and indie files, and you can state your looking for an Independant work who's name you or your nephiew may have misspelled. The crappy typist defence.
STEER CLEAR of Bittorrent for at least two weeks and grab PG2 off Phoenix Labs FAST as TomMelee said, and grab IP PLATINUM too. Run both PG2 & IP PLATINUM when you hit the web again. Get CrapCleaner, SpyCleaner, and LavaSoft Spyware Removal Tool...all free.
When you hit Bittorrent again, burn everything you DL.
Once in a while, do a video check on your system. Check and see what videos are lurking in your system.
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2. August 2006 @ 23:23 |
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How the hell will you know weather you are using a public or private tracker?
Also, is using PG2 and HIP a sureshot way out of this?
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2. August 2006 @ 23:46 |
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Are you serious??? Its pretty simple to figure that out.....If yhee site requires you to sign up its private (torrentleech, black-cats, wild-bytes, oink, pisexy, feedthenet, torrent-damage......i can go on for days), and public sites are open to everybody.....
There is not a sure fire way to dodge the authorities, but using PG is a good way to help keep yourself safe.
HIP??? Do you mean Hide IP? That is a simple proxy, and will work in most cases. If an agency really wanted to figure you out, using a proxy wouldnt help squat. Also, a proxy will dramatically reduce your dl sppeds, making them pretty much worthless. Good for everyday browsing, crap when trying to dl.
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3. August 2006 @ 00:03 |
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svtstang,
Sorry if my last post sounded rude. I was a bit freaked out after reading that letter.
Anyway, I wanted to ask whether PG2 completely blocks P2P networks, or just some specified IP adresses? If the latter, then which one does it block, or on what basis?
Also, by HIP, I meant Hide IP Platinum. If it dramatically reduces your download speeds, what's the point in using it? I mean, you don't really need a PROXY when you are browsing, which is not illegal. And while you need it while downloading(BIG files),the download will take forever. I am using bittorrent for 5 months, and I download atleast 300MB everyday. I have not got any email from my ISP as yet. Should I take a risk by not using HIP? If my ISP issues a warning, I can always start using it.
One more thing, what is the difference between Hiding the IP and using a proxy? Will using any ONE of these work? Does hiding the IP reduce download speeds too?
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3. August 2006 @ 00:35 |
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ashwin18
You did not sound rude in the least bit, sorry if I came off wrong. PG blocks all recognized "bad" IP's, including gv ip's and p2p baddies. It is a great way to protect yourself. Combine this with the fact that private trackers block potentially bad ip's, you are in business.
Well there are many uses of Hide IP platinum. I have it, though have never used it. You know there are a lot of weirdos in the world, ranging from peeps trying trying to overthrow the world to dirty pervs that look at kiddie porn. If you fall into any of these catagories (im not saying you do, just making a point), then a proxy would probably be worthwhile.
300 MB a day is nothing, but that still doesnt mean you are safe. On the other hand, I see many people that upload terabytes and have yet to get in trouble....which shows how inconsistant and random gettign caught is. I personally wouldnt use a proxy when dl'ing, but if you want the extra safety, by all means go ahead. Stick with PG and keep it updated, and you should be ok.
Hide IP is a proxy app, there is no difference. All proxy's reduce dl speed since you are being rerouted some place in a far off land (in my case beijing the one time I used it lol), so take that into consideration also.
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3. August 2006 @ 00:59 |
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I don't mind slow DL speeds with HIDE IP PLATINUM cuz safety is key. Sides which, when I'm snoozin' I'm not stressin. But then my modem's not THAT slow anyway, I still squeeze 2-300 k outa my cable modem when I'm routed to Korea or Japan...:/
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3. August 2006 @ 08:36 |
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Hide IP is a proxy app, there is no difference. All proxy's reduce dl speed since you are being rerouted some place in a far off land (in my case beijing the one time I used it lol), so take that into consideration also.
svtstang
Actually, that's not what I meant. HIP seems to have 2 options, 'Hide/Show IP' and 'Change Proxy'. I wanted to know whether using the 'Hide IP' option reduces your download speed.
And I really fail to understand how using a proxy reduces your download speed (i'm not saying that you are wrong, infact I used HIP and noticed the slow download speed). Not that I know a lot about this stuff, but it dosent really make sense to me. Does it have to do something where it routes you to (in my case, Hiroshima, Japan and the other time somewhere in Korea)?
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