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should I make a "image" or use "rip" to burn movie to dvdr
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cynn
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26. June 2006 @ 19:08 |
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My movies do not have copyright. I want to burn to DVDR. I normally use DVD decryptor to rip to hard disk, then burn to DVDR, then delete the file from my hdd. Today, my friend told me she makes an "image" of the dvd movie, burn it and that's it.
MY QUESTION AND CONCERN IS : If I did the "image" thing, will I get an EXACT copy of the original dvd in terms of quality?
Another question, how exactly is ripping different from "image" quality and reliability wise. Thanks everyone. and sorry if I sound ignorant. new to this but have learned a lot from a/dawn., Thks again
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27. June 2006 @ 00:00 |
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An image copy is to the best of my knowledge a exact copy. Also to the best of my knowledge their is no difference quality/reliability wise. the only real difference is that with an image copy you are getting an exact copy of the entire disc. You can modify this image however.
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cynn
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27. June 2006 @ 02:36 |
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so the reason everyone talks about ranscoders/encoders is becos of the copyright protection, am i right? If so, would I be correct to say, if there is no c/r protection to break, the best way is to just do a "image"?
2nd question, using the "image method', would I be able to split a dvd 9 to two DVD5?
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27. June 2006 @ 04:27 |
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if you are not too concerned about that quality i believe you can use shrink to fit the DVD9 on dvdr
maybe not though
or if you use Nero vision you can automaticcaly transcode and mpeg to a slight lower quality to fit on disk. or like you said, you can go straight and make an image..
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27. June 2006 @ 05:24 |
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With DVD Shrink, you also have the option of splitting the movie on two seperate discs, without compression or compromising quality. Just do a movie only backup and use the set start/end frames option at the top of the left pane. Shrink's main function however is about the same as Nero recode. It will compress videos and menus to make them fit on a DVD5. this is by far the simplest method.
If however you wish to copy your originals entirely and burn them onto Dual layer discs without having to shrink them, I recommend you use DVD Decrypter in ISO mode for both the ripping and burning process.
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27. June 2006 @ 16:25 |
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@cynn
A encoder and a transcoder are just ways/programs that allow you to lower the quality of a movie until it is within the specified size (usually 4.4 gb or so).Transcoders and Encoders can in no way bypass copyright software/ encryptions. There is no better way to ripping a DVD (file/image) it mainly depends on your needs. Do you need the whole movie?? Then do an image copy/read. Or do you only need lets say the main movie?? Then the "file" ripping method would be better.
For burning ISO/image copies ImgBurn is the burning part of DVD Decrypter buts its development has continued.to find it google it.
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cynn
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27. June 2006 @ 21:03 |
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Thks for your answers all.Appreciate it.
@PeaInAPod, so, if it's not copyright protection and I want everything on the DVD, I should just do the 'image' right? That way I get the exact copy as the original, from what I gather.
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28. June 2006 @ 03:47 |
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That's right. Copying in ISO read/write mode on a dual layer disc will technically create an exact copy of the original. The only thing you can't carry over is copy protection since you can't write CSS keys to recordables.
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28. June 2006 @ 14:54 |
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Yeah like Nick600 said to do a exact backup (for most) movies you will need Dual/Double Layer discs. And a burner that can burn to them. Other wise the video needs to be compressed and then its not a 1:1 copy but thats a entirely different subject.
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cynn
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28. June 2006 @ 17:12 |
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Thks Nick600 and PeaInAPod. Appreciate it.
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29. June 2006 @ 00:01 |
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Referring to the discs you have that are not copy protected, what size dvd are they on originally (how big are the folders)? If they are already on a DVD5 there is no reason for compression. Basically all transcoders/encoders do is compress the video content down to fit on a DVD5 (or DVD9 in some cases where you have combined several episodes from different discs or combined a couple dvd5's).
If there is no copy protection you can copy it to a DVDR several ways. One easy way is just use DVD Decrypter or imgburn iso read then iso write. If the folder is =/< 4.38 gb then burn it to a standard DVD5. If it is > 4.38 gb you will either need to compress it to fit or use a DL dvd.
Another way is to install the dvd in your drive then open the dvd and copy the video_ts folder to another location. No ripper is needed since there is no css encryption. Then the same applies as above for size but you will need to use Nero or similiar to burn the video_ts folder from your hdd to a dvd.
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29. June 2006 @ 06:42 |
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well put Mort! you've done it again and beat me to it. LOL
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30. June 2006 @ 19:40 |
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1)Pls bear with me, I'm new to this. I have a Sonic (Roxio)that has a function says "save dvd image to hdd". Is this the function that will give me an "exact" copy of original dvd?
2)Also, what is IMGburn? Is it just another software like Clone 2, FabGold etc?
3)I tke it if my DVDs are below 4.7G and has no copy protection, I will not be needing softwares like Clone 2, 1 Click, decryptor, rippers etc?
Thanks for your patience. let's not put Nero, DVD d/l, DVD9 etc in as examples since I don't intend to use it. I get a little confuse when other instances are added into the explanation. Sorry guys, Im not as smart....
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1. July 2006 @ 00:53 |
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But I thought I just needed to do an "image". isn't that different from ripping? Will "image" or "ripping" give me an exact original copy? Before this thread, I used DVD decryptor to ripp to hdd, then burn with Sonic Record Now. But few days ago, a friend said her method is better - just make an "image" of the original disc to the hdd, then burn with Sonic record Now. Which is best? Will both give an exact copy of the original in term of viewing quality? Thks.
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1. July 2006 @ 04:47 |
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Both are the same method. Copying the content of a disk onto your hard drive is the same as "ripping" to your hard drive, the term "ripping" I believe started when people were able to pull protected information from copyprotected DVD disks, hence ripping it to your hard drive. There are several ways to store the data from your disk on the hard drive, the file type you are referring to is called a disk image file, a .iso file extension. As far as burning the file back to another DVD, there are lots of good programs out there,if Sonic works for you, then use it. If you are happy with the results of your current methods, keep on using them. If you read through the pages here at AD you'll learn a million or so ways to do the same thing you are doing now. Personally, I agree with Mort81, use DVDdecrypter to copy the movie. I hope this helps and keep asking questions, that is how we all learn.
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cynn
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1. July 2006 @ 06:08 |
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ok, I will follow both your advise and stick to what i've been doing all this while....using dvd decryptor.
I did my friend's method this evening (image) and I had to choose between iso image OR world image. Is there a section I can learn about these or will someone be kind enough to explain to me here?
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1. July 2006 @ 07:07 |
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You are in it, AD has lots of forums, use the search function to find any or all relevant posts concerning your question, most often this will lead to a user submitted guide, one which is written by someone who has more expertise in the subject than I do, and will enlighten you. Hope this helps,
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